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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Exerpt from TA Blog:
    I remember my mother emptying a revolver on the car my father was driving and my father subsequently taking an axe to my mother’s belongings and destroying them. I remember being on the other side of the front door when my father kicked it down. The police were called that time along with many others, but I knew what had to be said and knew they would leave us to more of the same. I remember the day I came to the conclusion there was a God. I was 6. I screamed as loud as I could all day long for my near by grand mother to get me and take me for the weekend.

    What if he got and kept his Mothers GUN? He calls it a revolver. Here is the link I been telling everyone about. His mothers gun could have been what he had.<-----this is one of the posts!! another flipping dumbass... I don't know much about guns, and even I know that a revolver doesn't eject a casing

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    well any gun can kill. And one doesn't have to have a gun just for 'protection'. I have a .25 that belonged to my grandpa, its sentimental, never loaded, but in a keepsake box on a shelf.
    That said, what I think is applicable in this case is - Travis wouldn't have to want one for "protection" either. He could just as well want one to hang with the guys on target practice. But for whatever reason he might even want one, what I think is the a decision maker for me is ....
    Travis valued others opinions for things like this. He proved that by asking his photographer roommate what camera to buy. Had Travis wanted a gun, he would have sought out the advice of his gun wise gun owner friends. You could tell slasher was about ready to make up another of her lies .. 'well it was a secret his Dad'...
    But again, if Travis had a sentimental gun [Dad's] he wouldn't be hiding that from his friends imo. He would be telling that story like all his other interesting stories he told about his life.
    Yes, he would have told his gun friends about it at least. MY OH says the good thing about the 25 is that the ammo is cheap. He'd be able to go to the range and shoot all day with it, while his friends all ran out, and started using his. LOL
    If it was sentimental, I think Travis would have kept better care of it, not just thrown on top of a closet shelf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alyoop View Post
    sweet jesus, I just lurked about in that JAII page, I need a shower.... I feel dirty
    Yeah, seems an odd mix of people there. Some seem to be anti-death penalty types, which I can respect that. Others just seem to be angry men haters...lol. I don't get how they really think she was abused. Some others just seem to think it's justified because he was using her for sex. They scare me

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    Yeah, seems an odd mix of people there. Some seem to be anti-death penalty types, which I can respect that. Others just seem to be angry men haters...lol. I don't get how they really think she was abused. Some others just seem to think it's justified because he was using her for sex. They scare me
    just when I thought I couldn't be more disgusted (nauseated?) holy shit, its like watching Intervention AND Hoarders and feeling good about yourself....

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    When is the cutoff for juroror questions? then more cleanup from defense? more cleanup from Juan? more questions? when is friggin JA gonna STFU? Christmas?
    how long does this go on ? just heard more jury Q's are in the basket and am starting to freak ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Yes, he would have told his gun friends about it at least. MY OH says the good thing about the 25 is that the ammo is cheap. He'd be able to go to the range and shoot all day with it, while his friends all ran out, and started using his. LOL
    If it was sentimental, I think Travis would have kept better care of it, not just thrown on top of a closet shelf.
    That's my favorite things about my .22 the ammo is so inexpensive. We go to the gun range and I go through so much of it lol.

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    Someone answer me!!

    What's the link to the creepy reenactment? I'll pay you in reps and virtual hugs.

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    Nurmi better watch himself. He has totally bad habits of fingers on his nose and mouth. He's prone to catching every virus running amok and if she's picking that cold sore and touches his hand and he touches his lip......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    Someone answer me!!

    What's the link to the creepy reenactment? I'll pay you in reps and virtual hugs.
    Give me a sec, I'll find it for you.
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    "When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by azkarisma View Post
    Oh yeah, she's used some interesting words for someone who earned her GED in jail awaiting trial. Dr. Drew said early on that she seems to mimic others around her when she doesn't know what is appropriate (hence dressing like Willmott, crying when Travis' sisters cry in the gallery).. Do you think she's picking up words from her attorneys and even from Martinez? After many years of hearings, etc. I wouldn't be surprised.

    Contemporaneous
    Behest (something about writing a letter to Abe at Travis' behest)
    De-edify (she's used that a number of times saying that she didn't want to de-edify Travis, yet she's doing exactly that and deliberately too)
    Ideation
    Actually, in the beginning of her direct, it sounded like she was using buzzwords from a psych therapist. That was such a long, long time ago and I can't remember any particulars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Did you catch her new plant? Nurmi asks her something about sex of course, were you thinking of sex as an alternative when you killed him or some equally asshole question and she puts her new plant in
    "Certainly not in the heat of that moment"

    and her subliminal message for the jury don't kill me because 'I don't believe there is ever any reason to kill'.
    I also noticed her drop in the "that's my Aunt there in the front row" like, "See I have people who love me, don't punish them by killing me!" All I thought was of all the times you do NOT do a Hi Mom moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    She said he had pictures of little boys on his bed and he was masturbating. She walked in on him and a picture fluttered to floor at feet.
    Don't make me check but I recall her saying that she didn't see the pictures on the bed, but did say that when she walked in on him all of the pictures fell to the floor in that chaoticway papers fall and she saw that one of the pictures was that of a young boy. The hyperbole never ends.

    There is indeed no such word as de-edify. In addition, she uses the words contemporaneous/contemporaneously improperly. She means to say simultaneous/simultaneously but she's too dumb to know the difference. She is glib but she is not smart. We all know the life lesson stuff that spews from her mouth in torrents is self-serving adolescent gobbledygook. (That's a word she should learn.) Everyone knows it but her. I don't know how she got her GED in jail. Probably a mercy mark!! Forgive me for the black humor, but I figured the reason Travis preferred that she blow him is so he could get some relief from her nonstop, nonsensical, relentless yammering. She couldn't talk when her mouth was full. That's probably why he gave her the Toblerone; so she'd have something to put in her mouth immediately afterwards and would not be able to talk He probably could have done without the sexual gratification part. Forgive me!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    Someone answer me!!

    What's the link to the creepy reenactment? I'll pay you in reps and virtual hugs.
    I don't think I posted the one you're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Oh wait, is that the sweat lodge guy? I hope he rots in a steamy steamy hell.
    Yes that's the one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    What is that? Sorry if it was recently linked. I'm lazy.

    This is the killing timeline. It starts about the1 :30 minute mark. It list many theories, but it is a very good video. Somebody put a lot of work into it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    Winnemucca NV is 13.5 hours from Mesa and NOT on the way to West Jordan at all; it is in the North part of NV. She must have gone to the Fying J on her way back to Yreka, it is on that route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    This is the killing timeline. It starts about the 1 minute mark. It list many theories, but it is a very good video. Somebody put a lot of work into it.

    Also, thank you as well Berm! Sorry, I should have multi quoted.

    Have a hug

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggrrl72077 View Post
    That's my favorite things about my .22 the ammo is so inexpensive. We go to the gun range and I go through so much of it lol.
    Same here! When my bf and I go shooting, I take his .22 and I shoot it all day long. It's a ton of fun. hehe BTW- seeing what the .22 can do, there is no way Travis was shot with a .25 and within seconds screams 'kill you b*tch' and starts after her again. NO WAY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    Also, thank you as well Berm! Sorry, I should have multi quoted.

    Have a hug
    Sorry! I was looking for that one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppycock View Post
    Winnemucca NV is 13.5 hours from Mesa and NOT on the way to West Jordan at all; it is in the North part of NV. She must have gone to the Fying J on her way back to Yreka, it is on that route.
    She probably would have paid cash, so there wouldn't be a record. Or she could have ducked into a campground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Regarding the license plate, I do not believe she would totally take it off. That would be a very good way to get the attention of police. She didn't want that to happen, before she got to murder Travis.

    I only see 2 reasons for the license plate bs, and both of them involve turning it upside down.

    1. She wanted to make it harder to read the numbers, and even the state, in case anyone saw her fleeing the scene.

    2. She wanted to draw the attention of police, in Utah, so that she would get pulled over and have "proof" that she was in Utah, so that she could use that as part of her alibi. Oh she was with Ryan Burns and couldn't have killed Travis, look here's a police officer for proof.

    I lean more towards option 1, but 2 has its merits. How much better of an alibi could you have than a police officer saying "she was in Utah, not in Mesa". I think she was betting on his roommates not finding him until the following evening, or longer (because they didn't interact much), and she won that bet. They didn't discover him for 5 days after his murder.

    I'm sure Jodi figured she could explain away the dna and hair -- like she tried to -- by saying that she was at Travis' all the time, so of course she would have left dna behind. Of course, it was the bloody handprint and the pictures that tripped up her alibi. But, she thought she got rid of the pictures by "washing" the camera, and she probably didn't realize the bloody handprint or assumed they wouldn't be able to match the print to her.

    I think, that without those timestamped pictures, they would've had a harder time pinning down time of death, since he went unnoticed by people in the house for 5 days. She thought she had planned it all out -- different car that wouldn't be noticed, different hair color, no receipts or video of her stopping for gas in Arizona, spending time with Ryan Burns and popping up at the convention. It's possible she thought there was little or no evidence of her being at the scene and between the cop and Ryan, she had an alibi of being in Utah, so she couldn't have killed Travis.

    Clearly she isn't half as smart as she thinks she is.
    I'm about 20 pages behind in this feed, so forgive me if I'm responding to such an earlier post, but in AZ, down in the Valley anyway (I live in Northern AZ), there are many, many red light and speed cameras, so my theory is she did the license plate thing so none of the cameras would catch the license plate number. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    She probably would have paid cash, so there wouldn't be a record. Or she could have ducked into a campground.
    Agree; just clearing up that this Flying J purchase on the card was not for showering after the slaughter.

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