Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Ian 1]

I totally agree she thinks it's all Travis' fault...but after keeping this all to herself til the lies can no longer "benefit" her, she will eventually spill it. She will spin it the way she thinks it happened in her demented head and why she did it because of Travis' fault. She will want to try to clear her bad image that everyone has of her. As if her real story would do that, but in her head it makes total sense.

Right from her first public utterances, particularly that 48 Hrs. interview, Jodi Arias, demurely smiled and referred to what went on between her and Travis Alexander was, to paraphrase, "what you'd expect between two consenting adults behind closed doors." Then she dipped her head and her demure smile morphed into an evil smirk. She was letting us know she owned it and she wasn't going to share. Just keep lording it over others. She did all this with the full knowledge of what horrors she had perpetrated on Travis. She ain't never gonna give that up. The best thing is to put her in a place where she can't keep affirming her title to any part of Travis's life. A place where there's nobody to talk to, where there is nobody gives a s**t, and where she comes to the realization there is no value in her miserable life. Death Row comes to mind.

[wasthinking]

Overall Martinez receives a B for his examination of JA. Why didn't he get a mock-up of the wall with the palm print and show how the blood would come from her ring finger? He got stuck in the "when did he shave" whirlpool because Jodi was hiding something. I still believe JA had a fresh Brazilian wax and was too sensitive to receive oral sex. But if she admitted getting waxed, it would be another premeditated factor. The demonstration was brilliant because the forensic evidence doesn't support TA being in that position. Had he been in that position, the bullet would have gone straight thru his skull rather than a diagonal downward direction. This case is sooooo interesting because there is so much information to wade thru and decide what is important. No way did they prove self defense- she ran down that hall and could have run out of the house. No wet naked man is going to chase a dressed woman outside.

Speaking of TA in the shower, did anyone notice that his robe was still hanging up next to the shower in the crime scene pics? If he was the aggressor, he most likely would have put it on. If the first stabs were to his chest, he would not have had the consciousness to grab it. He was too busy trying to get away.

Two minutes of intense searing pain is enough to convict Murder 1, I think. Two minutes is along time to die.

He presented the actual piece of the wall in his CIC. Heather Connor, even told us the palm print faces North.

He has left the blonde hair hanging out there with question marks.
And the checks JA deposited and the checks she claims where she borrowd Travis money.

[wasthinking]

Speaking of the jug of KY, earlier in the trial, either Martinez or Nurmi kept pointing out the KY and it moving locations in several of the pictures. I believe it was Martinez questioning one of the camera forensics people but did that train of questioning ever lead anywhere? At the time, it seemed like the questioning was going somewhere but, what with HLN and their constant commercial interruptions, I never did catch what the issue was with it moving around all over the bed.

Also, I REALLY wanted Martinez to show Jodi the "Travis Alexander's" T-shirt and have a total L&O moment where he turned it around to show the back (since Travis' friends have alleged it says "Being Better Blog" on the back). Was anyone else disappointed this didn't come into play?

I'm hoping he uses that infamous T-shirt in his closing arguments, since the defense portrayed it as a sign of Travis' domination of Jodi.

Sky testified that shirt was NOT made by Travis. That they had a shirt business and he would have gone through them so obviously his 'friends' aren't aware of any 'group' made shirts.
IMO, it's false internet rumors that there is anything on the back of that shirt.

[Jinkasaurus]

In that picture where Travis is laying on the bed and his hand is up, I thought it was a pic she snapped just after he tossed the bottle of KY and his hand was still in the air. In the pic right before it, the KY is down near his legs on the bed and he looks like he is resting/relaxed. Then, in that pic, the bottle is up by his head, his hand is in the air, and he is looking at the camera.

I thought perhaps in the first one, he didn't know she was there taking his pic while he was naked and then she either made a sound or a comment, maybe about the KY, and then he tossed it and that is when she snapped the photo.

[Ian 1]

How do you do a one-handed double bird?

Urban Dictionary: [I]Common[I] The act of giving someone "the finger" by extending your middle and ring finger of either/both hands in rage. Gives the appearance that you have two middle fingers on the same hand.

Thanks for the anonymous private 'Dipshit' comment. A compliment considering the source. (P.S. Google is available to all.) Yawn!!

[raisedbywolves]

Watching the Dateline special and Donovan has a cameo, gorgeous creature! eesh

I roped hubby into watching it with me and when Donovan came on the screen he gave me the side eye and said "fill me in...man or woman?"

[raisedbywolves]

Um.. Just for clarification. This is the double bird


And this is what Travis was doing

It looks like the British version of flipping the bird-basically the V for victory type symbol, but flipped backwards.

[smashie]

I roped hubby into watching it with me and when Donovan came on the screen he gave me the side eye and said "fill me in...man or woman?"

Your reply: yes

[wasthinking]

Duct tape is actually a bodybugg (pretty cool device, actually). It looks like duct tape in the photo, though.

Well, that's what a known liar said. But forensic criminologist testified it was duct tape.

[Ron_NYC]

Oh, and Ron...NYC~

I'm also from NYC- the Bronx.

Brace yourself. People from the internet are insane.

[wasthinking]

Here's the dateline from last night. Is that they one you mean? The title is called "Along came Jodi"

Did you notice the idiot author couldn't get even the simple facts right? Travis was NOT found with his arms over his head.

[Artemis]

LOL. It's either mid-peace sign or he was throwing something.

[AnnieBelle]

Don't they usually ask jurors if they are for or against the DP when they are interviewing them?

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I think it may also be his religion. If he truly was a virgin before her, and he was taught to wait until marriage for sex, he may have felt like he HAD to marry her once they had sex. I've seen it happen before.



Just now? I'm already on my second glass.

When selecting jury members on a DP case, they always ask the candidates if they feel they could impose such a sentence if warrented. They strive to get jurors who are as unbiased and open-minded as possible. This is so that the client, no matter what the circumstances, can get a fair trial.

[twilit]

http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/02/...anderwhat.html



In the end, Jodi used Travis' fantasies to lure him to his death. She lured him into the shower on the turn-on of taking provocative photos. Then she got him to turn around and show her his back and that is when she inflicted the ultimate betrayal on Travis as she started stabbing him as he stood defenseless, and naked in the shower.

Sorry but this eyes for lies lady has always struck me as a huge fraud. she pretends she has some special insight into who is telling lies beyond what the average person can tell, but her take is just as much guesswork as anyone's on this forum. here's a good way to avoid being in travis's position: don't pretend to be a pious man then bang the bejesus out of a nutty chick who shows you again and again she can't be trusted in increasingly violent ways - from hacking your personal accounts, to following you, to slashing your tires and breaking into your house. i also take offense to her characterizing someone who is comfortable with their body and sexuality as an indicator of violent behavior and manipulation. that's some old testament, eve in the garden bullshit right there. travis made his choices as a full grown man and he is responsible for his part in choosing to have sex with her, not jodi. as he said in the taped phone call, "i'm so glad we started f*cking". that is not to put down travis or his memory, but if there's something that can be learned from what happened for men in this situation, it should be that if you're messing around with some side chick who you think you can discard when you find the right one, you never know what's going through her head and what is a booty call to you may be a lot more to her and harder to get out of than you thought. think before you ****.

[MorbidlyLovely]

Sky testified that shirt was NOT made by Travis. That they had a shirt business and he would have gone through them so obviously his 'friends' aren't aware of any 'group' made shirts.
IMO, it's false internet rumors that there is anything on the back of that shirt.

I believe Skye testified outside of the jury's presence, did she not? And I believe the Defense used a picture of Jodi wearing the shirt in their opening statement and later followed it up with pictures of the T-shirt and the underpants that said "Travis'" as evidence.

That being said, since the picture of Jodi wearing the T-shirt and the picture she took of the T-shirt and underwear together after Travis' death, combined with the allegations that it was one of many "Travis Alexander's...Being Better Blog," I was surprised the actual shirt wasn't introduced into evidence.

[AnnieBelle]

Well, that's what a known liar said. But forensic criminologist testified it was duct tape.

That was definitely duct tape....no doubt in my mind. It is visible on his arm during some of the sex photos, too. This whole thing makes no sense to me. Travis doesn't strike me as the type guy who would use duct tape to attach a body bug to himself....not when there are actual bands available. So, wtf was the duct tape for? Maybe I've missed something?

[wasthinking]

I believe Skye testified outside of the jury's presence, did she not? And I believe the Defense used the shirt in their opening statement and later followed it up with pictures of the T-shirt and the underpants that said "Travis'" as evidence.

That being said, since the picture of Jodi wearing the T-shirt and the picture she took of the T-shirt and underwear together after Travis' death, combined with the allegations that it was one of many "Travis Alexander's...Being Better Blog," I was surprised the actual shirt wasn't introduced into evidence.

Right! Def has the points still on this one . The jury doesn't have any dialog about the shirt being a Blog shirt. It's left hanging with only the liars version and as you point out, NO shirt introduced or contrary info for the jury by the State.

[wasthinking]

That was definitely duct tape....no doubt in my mind. It is visible on his arm during some of the sex photos, too. This whole thing makes no sense to me. Travis doesn't strike me as the type guy who would use duct tape to attach a body bug to himself....not when there are actual bands available. So, wtf was the duct tape for? Maybe I've missed something?

It was only a brief mention by Heather Connor in the pic in front of the dryer. Juan has failed to address or follow up on a few things. We'll see if he does in rebuttal, I wouldn't hold my breath though at this point. He has had his CIC and cross of the killer and so far his case sits with a lot of theories, inferences and liar liar pants on fire. NOT that I don't think she convictede herself along the way, I just am not sure it will reach a DP verdict.

[marycontrary]

The hand gesture in Travis last nude shot on the bed is a 'double bird.' Jodi said he flipped her one when she drove away in March 2008 when she finally left Mesa on her strategic retreat to Yreka. Travis probably didn't do it then but Jodi Arias couldn't resist incorporating it into her story so she transferred the detail from the bedroom on June 4, 2008, and placed it in the story about leaving. She does it all the time with many details. That's how she avoids telling the truth by not lying. I've said it before, Jodi Arias never tells the truth. She is either lying or she is not lying is the best you can say about her.

Haha....I thought a double bird would be birds performed by two hands, not a funny looking peace sign. People could be giving me double birds all the time and I wouldn't have a clue. Well, I have a new sign to throw up in traffic now I guess. Seriously it looks like something is in between those two fingers and how they are sort of bent.

[MorbidlyLovely]

Right! Def has the points still on this one . The jury doesn't have any dialog about the shirt being a Blog shirt. It's left hanging with only the liars version and as you point out, NO shirt introduced or contrary info for the jury by the State.

Yeah, it was just kind of left hanging out there...Kind of like JM left the coded information in the magazines hanging out there after he introduced them and the entire Matt McCartney situation.

Total head-scratchers...I'm assuming there's a "method to his madness," so to speak, and perhaps he'll bring it all full circle on his closing argument. There are so many aspects to this case that may never be explained but that T-shirt and its implied message left hanging out there really bugs me for some unknown reason (because I'm anal like that...not anal like Jodi was anal, but you know what I mean, lol!).

[smashie]

Here's the dateline from last night. Is that they one you mean? The title is called "Along came Jodi"

Thanks for posting!!! Loved the last comment ...."the judge she sits here in front of in Maricopa County is not the judge she needs to worry about , it's the next judge she's going to meet"

[Harlette]

Didn't Nurmi say at the last sidebar that he needed some piece of evidence Martinez had checked out for his redirect? And JM said he would give to him the next day (Friday).

nurmiu said martinez has a piece of evidence checked out, and needed him to return it

I didn't write it, Eyes For Lies wrote it.

i think he meant the eyes for lies lady was crazy

Brace yourself. People from the internet are insane.

I believe Skye testified outside of the jury's presence, did she not? And I believe the Defense used a picture of Jodi wearing the shirt in their opening statement and later followed it up with pictures of the T-shirt and the underpants that said "Travis'" as evidence.

That being said, since the picture of Jodi wearing the T-shirt and the picture she took of the T-shirt and underwear together after Travis' death, combined with the allegations that it was one of many "Travis Alexander's...Being Better Blog," I was surprised the actual shirt wasn't introduced into evidence.

sky has only testified in evidence hearing so far, but is on the defense list - it was her husband on the interview that said they owned a t-shirt compnay

[wasthinking]

Yeah, it was just kind of left hanging out there...Kind of like JM left the coded information in the magazines hanging out there after he introduced them and the entire Matt McCartney situation.

Total head-scratchers...I'm assuming there's a "method to his madness," so to speak, and perhaps he'll bring it all full circle on his closing argument. There are so many aspects to this case that may never be explained but that T-shirt and its implied message left hanging out there really bugs me for some unknown reason (because I'm anal like that...not anal like Jodi was anal, but you know what I mean, lol!).

lol, guess I'm anal like that too then. There's a lot of things that he left hanging that bug me. What worries me the most is the words on another case of the jury foreman that said she didn't believe Juan's theory!
That killer, Doug Grant, ended up only getting a 5 yr sentence! As much as I think she's guilty, if I was a juror, there is no way I could vote DP on inferences and theories.

[AnnieBelle]

http://blog.eyesforlies.com/2013/02/...anderwhat.html

If you are a guy and you are watching Jodi Arias on the stand, there is a good chance you've shuddered and thought, could this have been me? Could I have fallen for Jodi and could I have been her next victim?

Most people would agree that Jodi Arias is not a threatening person, or a person that would evoked fear in people prior to her trial--especially to men who are bigger and stronger than she is. As you can now see in hindsight--how wrong your thinking would be!

So how do you then protect yourself from falling victim like Travis did to a woman who appears so meek as Jodi did? Were there warning signs?

Absolutely. If you were my brother, or son, (or daughter or sister) I'd tell you this...

Psychopathic people tend to cross personal boundaries very quickly. They will fall "in love" almost overnight. They will commit themselves to a person very quickly. They will profess love for another way sooner than the average person and they will shower their object of affection with an abnormal amount of attention very quickly. They will tell you that you are the one long before most other people would do so naturally. Take heed!

Another warming sign is that the harness the power of their sexuality. Psychopaths have a lot less fear than the average person and are not shy about sex or their bodies, and find great joy in using their sexuality as a tool. You won't know it as first, but if they are sexually very open and willing to do things most other wouldn't, show no inhibitions and are willing to get sexual faster than most people -- bells should go off. It's a red flag. Sure they will tell you that you are different and special, and they don't normally do this, but be careful. It's another trait of a psychopath.

Once they get you in bed, one thing is for sure--they will fulfill your every fantasy--not because they want you, but because they want you to be vulnerable and wanting more. Sex is a desire they play on to manipulate and control a person, and they will continue to meet your fantasies in an effort to gain more and more control. They lure you with visions and fantasies and experience of sex from your wildest dreams! Remember, they have no inhibitions! For a woman psychopath, this is easy to do as men are vulnerable in this arena and they know it. I've seen it time and time again.

I don't doubt that Travis was transfixed on Jodi for this reason and he had a hard time pulling away--even when he saw her diabolical side because it was very hard to walk away from his fantasies (who would ever do this again?), and you can bet Jodi knew this and used it as one of her most powerful tools. When someone starts using sex to get things or to control you -- that is dangerous territory.

I have no doubt that Jodi used her sexuality as the ultimate tool against Travis, and he had no idea until he was in way too deep. Granted, these manipulators start small. They may start out offering sexual gratification in return for something small such as a gift they want, or a dinner out, or getting their way. That's your first clue to BOLT! But they will continue to escalate it for more and more control.

And when they feel they are losing control, they will amp up your sexual fantasies and pleasure to keep you coming back. Don't ever convince yourself this is just a physical relationship. I think that is what Travis did, and that belief is what ultimately lead to his demise.

The more control Jodi got over Travis using sex, the more she wanted to manipulate him, and the more she believed she could manipulate him. For her it was never about the sex--it was all about the control and when she felt she lost control, and she did all this sexual pleasing of Travis for not--she let it out in a fit of rage on him --making him pay the ultimate price for what she believed was the ultimate betrayal. She gave and he did not. That ended it.

While people think lying is harmless, it actually says a lot about a person's character. I can assure you Travis was well aware of how Jodi lied and it may have been something he disliked as time when on. When someone tells you who they are-- that they are willing to lie to others for their own gain -- take it as a clue that no one is important to a person like this -- not even you, even if you are the center of their universe and they confess their dirty lies to you. Take it as a huge beacon in the night to run and take cover! Quickly.

In the end, Jodi used Travis' fantasies to lure him to his death. She lured him into the shower on the turn-on of taking provocative photos. Then she got him to turn around and show her his back and that is when she inflicted the ultimate betrayal on Travis as she started stabbing him as he stood defenseless, and naked in the shower.

Jodi is not a psychopath.....she, in no way, fits the criteria. She definitely has other personality disorders and characteristics, for sure, but she is not psychotic. She understands fantasy from reality...right from wrong. Definitely a sociopath, narcissist, a master manipulator, and who knows what else. But not a psychopath.

[Harlette]

this is the last accidental pic