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    Quote Originally Posted by jmig View Post
    I am also so glad I found this site. My obsession is making everyone around me either equally addicted or crazy! I wish I would have found you all months ago.
    Hi jmig! Welcome!!! I feel the same way! Only found this fantastic site, these great peeps, a couple of weeks ago. I was so lacking in info before then. But still plenty of trial still to come, so you'll be amongst the all knowing (not me, lol) and all giving, for the best parts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    HLN FB viewer "Bombshell"...
    Nurmi says "stick with that" to her when he approaches. Start it at the 1:14:20 mark. Very faint turn up your volume.
    Interesting. My sis and I were having this debate last night. She swore that he said 'just stick with that' and I kept hearing 'just take a minute'. Now that I'm listening to it via my laptop I can make that out now (last night I was on my iPad). The face he makes afterward matches the 'just take a minute' statement tho. But he can't be that dumb...I mean, really?!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    I'm with you, Jem. I read it through, and also respect everyone elses right to post, but I thought that was in poor taste. I immediately thought of his family, and hope they don't read it.
    This totally

    Can't say I thought it was funny either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmandy9 View Post
    Interesting. My sis and I were having this debate last night. She swore that he said 'just stick with that' and I kept hearing 'just take a minute'. Now that I'm listening to it via my laptop I can make that out now (last night I was on my iPad). He can't be that stupid...really?!!!
    I thought he said "take a minute" yesterday too. I had HLN on and they did a fb question about it and played the clip. I clearly heard "stick with that" so I busted out my earbuds (like an all consumed loser) and pulled up the video.... Just thought I would share it with y'all!
    Last edited by Rockabillychick; 03-01-2013 at 02:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Busybody View Post
    I've always thought the casing could have been kicked into the blood during the struggle....if she did shoot him first. But I know that is going against the ME.
    I thought that was possible initially, but it doesn't really make sense with all the blood in the bathroom that it would be pristine with no blood spatter on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grump_Cat View Post
    I don't think you should be allowed to be in a jury of a murder 1 trial if you are anti DP. Period. This case being a good example. Overwhelming evidence of guilt across the board. Tax payers should not have to pay that POS room and board the rest of her life.
    DP is actually MORE expensive than LWOP.

    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    well, there is this...

    http://www.deathpenalty.org/article.php?id=42

    http://www.economist.com/node/13279051

    http://deathpenalty.procon.org/view....stionID=001000

    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/29552692/n.../#.UTEhLTCG0b0

    death penalty cases often take 15 years or more to exhaust the costly appeals process. on top of the cost of the court proceedings, you have to house them in a higher security facility, bringing the cost to house death row inmates quite a bit more expensive than a LWOP inmate.
    You done read my mind!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Has the murder of Bobby Juarez been discussed? This fella looks a lot like the guy in her myspace pic. She did mention wanting to go to San Diego on her road trip. Hope I can post this link correctly, being a newbie and all... http://mydeathspace.com/vb/images/sm.../Undecided.gif
    http://www.everythingsandiego.net/47...g-information/
    385851_164842323666004_2110432782_n.jpg
    I think it was determined earlier in the thread that it's not the same cat, that Vampire Bobby lived up North and is currently negotiating a book deal.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    I thought he said "take a minute" yesterday too. I had HLN on and they did a fb question about it and played the clip. I clearly heard "stick with that" so I busted out my earbuds (like an all consumed loser) and pulled up the video.... Just thought I would share it with y'all!
    I'll have to hear it again then, I thought I heard "take a minute" how weird
    - Beauty is a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    Video of interview


    Phone calls
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    I'm sorry but what is this supposed to be? Funny? Because all I find it is kind of disrespectful.
    It's a satire of the trial using Jodi's words and phrases as a mirror to show what I think really happened. A caricature with comic and tragic elements, exaggerated for effect. It certainly could be offensive if viewed as a satire of the murder itself, and that's why I included the other characters. Thinking back to the OJ trial, lots of humorous skits and spoofs were presented even though two people were killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Possibly, but there is a way to convey how we think he may of felt without making it one massive joke. I'd imagine his last few moments were absolutely terrifying, not something to be taken quite so lightly, in my opinion.
    I understand what you're saying. But I think the poster was only trying to give Travis a voice, not minimize the tragedy, and some parts others might describe as inappropriate humor, I took as chilling irony. Actually, reading it gave me great pause, as I could almost hear Travis speaking to us, to the hell that this woman put him through, that day, and before. I understand how some might take objection, but in the end justice will be served to this evil person, one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    I thought he said "take a minute" yesterday too. I had HLN on and they did a fb question about it and played the clip. I clearly heard "stick with that" so I busted out my earbuds (like an all consumed loser) and pulled up the video.... Just thought I would share it with y'all!
    There's this song called Odessa by Caribou where they repeat "she can say" over and over again. Someone posted "chicken steak chicken steak chicken steak chicken steak chicken steak" on YouTube, and now THAT'S ALL I HEAR
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    wasn't there droplets of blood on the stairs leading down and didn't one of the roommates say the stairs banister felt a little slick like it was cleaned? I think it was in the investigation report.
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    Did anyone catch where JM got her to say where she was standing when she took the picture, it was bit right next to the shower as she previously stated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly cat lover View Post
    Hi Everyone!
    Long time lurker from across the pond, after 2 failed attempts my log in now works yay-thank you to the lovely MDS person who replied to my emails and was ever so polite dealing with my eejit like questions! hi to everyone around the world and my fellow people in the uk (im from oop north in good ol' Yorkshire)
    Proud to say i've read every post now, think the Irish one (my other half!) thinks i'm having an affair with someone
    It's been great to have all the recaps and running commentary of you all, as i don't get a chance to watch or listen to whats going on. Just read the posts about the stab wounds (page 1475-ish)and i didn't realise Travis had 3 to his tummy area, i wonder when she did these? I've also noticed that the blood drops/pooling in the bathroom, especially near the bath and scales are perfect 'neat' drops and have not been disturbed by the water rinsing she did. So i'm assuming Travis walked and stayed still in this area (due to a fair size pool of blood) poor man, and also then makes me think her story doesn't add up (aside from the obvious!) due to the quickness she says everything happened to her, versus Travis' obvious staggering/running/freezing whilst being killed. Lastly, i'm always curious as to how no footprints/shoeprints were found (at least i think none were found!) so how did she do this-its always puzzled me! Anyways just realising im gabbing on like a fool so thanks in advance for your answers and i can at last now use my favourite emoticon ever..... love Gilly
    Welcome!!! Well done reading it all!!

    I believe there is one shoe print that was found in the bathroom. Near the closet I believe. They were perhaps not able to match it to any specific shoes, so it was not used in the trial. I am 100% convinced that Jodi had shoes on and took them off at some point. The pic with the shoe/sock in it looks like a shoe to me. I think there is a sole on the bottom. Socks don't have soles. Jodi likely burned the shoes or threw them in the desert or a dumpster.

    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Someone did a side by side pic and linked to it in the comments on the Bobby Juarez murder story. http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user...9ff92.jpg.html
    They don't look alike to me.
    Definitely not the same cat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Wrong guy. Side by side the guy in red. I think her name order was wrong on myspace.
    Still not him. The guy in the red looks even less like him than the guy in the sunglasses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    I'm sorry but what is this supposed to be? Funny? Because all I find it is kind of disrespectful.
    I felt uncomfortable reading it. It paints Travis in a douche bag sort of light. If you think Travis really was a douche bag, you would likely find it funny.

    But, I do the "Dear Diary" posts, and I'm sure they can be offensive as well, so I don't really have a right to point fingers at anyone.

    I will say though, that I try to not be disparaging to Travis at all since he is the victim, not the cold blooded murderer. Of course, if you are anti Travis and Pro Jodi, you would be very offended by them. I don't think anyone at the "Jodi Arias Is (not even close to being) Innocent" site is laughing at them at all.

    Funny is in the eye (ear?) of the beholder I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Venus2B View Post
    Is it possible that she cleaned herself in the shower first, after trying to clean the bathroom a bit? Changed at the house and then left? Because if she left the house all covered in blood (and she MUST have been covered) - would someone not notice??

    I think she showered and cleaned, then put him into the shower. Or she had a bath AFTER she put him into the shower.
    A lot of people speculate that she cleaned herself in the shower AFTER she dragged Travis' body there. Disgusting, isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmig View Post
    I am also so glad I found this site. My obsession is making everyone around me either equally addicted or crazy! I wish I would have found you all months ago.
    Welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    I was reading the investigators report that someone kindly posted the link to, recently. I couldn't believe my eyes....someone said that Jodi sometimes got in through the DOG door?! Oh Em Effing Geeeeeeeeeeee!
    There were numerous other examples of stalking type behavior by Jodi that were not admitted by the court. It was bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by tiggrrl72077 View Post
    This totally

    Can't say I thought it was funny either.
    And this from someone who actually knew Travis. Nuff said.

    Sorry about that, tiggrrl72077.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantompoet View Post
    wasn't there droplets of blood on the stairs leading down and didn't one of the roommates say the stairs banister felt a little slick like it was cleaned? I think it was in the investigation report.
    I don't recall the droplets on the stairs. But I do remember the roommate saying the banister felt slick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmandy9 View Post
    Interesting. My sis and I were having this debate last night. She swore that he said 'just stick with that' and I kept hearing 'just take a minute'. Now that I'm listening to it via my laptop I can make that out now (last night I was on my iPad). The face he makes afterward matches the 'just take a minute' statement tho. But he can't be that dumb...I mean, really?!!!
    And on Wednesday (while discussing the sleigh bed & rope) Nurmi Objects JA looks at Judge to rule, then after, looks at Nurmi & mouths I'm sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantompoet View Post
    I'll have to hear it again then, I thought I heard "take a minute" how weird
    I heard "take a minute" as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    It's a satire of the trial using Jodi's words and phrases as a mirror to show what I think really happened. A caricature with comic and tragic elements, exaggerated for effect. It certainly could be offensive if viewed as a satire of the murder itself, and that's why I included the other characters. Thinking back to the OJ trial, lots of humorous skits and spoofs were presented even though two people were killed.
    I respect your opinion and understand we obviously don't have the same sense of humour. However, I will say that Jodi has disrespected the memory of, and defamed, Travis with her words and lies. That I do not find funny. None of us knew what Travis was really like, unlike his friends and family, who do have a presence online. I hope they don't have the pleasure of coming across things like that which make light of his last moments. Again, this is merely my opinion and I'd hope you atleast be aware I wasn't the only one who found that in poor taste.
    Last edited by Jem; 03-01-2013 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    And on Wednesday (while discussing the sleigh bed & rope) Nurmi Objects JA looks at Judge to rule, then after, looks at Nurmi & mouths I'm sorry
    She probably started to answer before the judge ruled. She does that a lot. And then says "I'm sorry" afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantompoet View Post
    wasn't there droplets of blood on the stairs leading down and didn't one of the roommates say the stairs banister felt a little slick like it was cleaned? I think it was in the investigation report.
    Never heard that... but doesn't mean it isn't true :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    I respect your opinion and understand we obviously don't have the same sense of humour. However, I will say that Jodi has disrespected the memory of, and defamed, Travis with her words and lies. That I do not find funny. None of us knew what Travis was really like, unlike his family, who do have a presence online. I hope they don't have the pleasure of coming across things like that which make light of his last moments. Again, this is merely my opinion and I'd hope you atleast be aware I wasn't the only one who found that in poor taste.
    I think this is well said, and respectfully said as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Possibly, but there is a way to convey how we think he may of felt without making it one massive joke. I'd imagine his last few moments were absolutely terrifying, not something to be taken quite so lightly, in my opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Venus2B View Post
    Is it possible that she cleaned herself in the shower first, after trying to clean the bathroom a bit? Changed at the house and then left? Because if she left the house all covered in blood (and she MUST have been covered) - would someone not notice??

    I think she showered and cleaned, then put him into the shower. Or she had a bath AFTER she put him into the shower.
    totally had to clean up before leaving the room. just another reason i don't believe the black out story. i don't believe she had any blood on her clothes or hands when she pulled over in the desert. if she did, there'd be blood all over the house. if she's lying about having blood on her at that point, then she was aware of everything she did. case closed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    I felt uncomfortable reading it. It paints Travis in a douche bag sort of light. If you think Travis really was a douche bag, you would likely find it funny.

    Funny is in the eye (ear?) of the beholder I guess.
    i found it funny and i don't think he was a douche bag. i think he was a normal guy. sounds like a normal guy who's had too much to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    She probably started to answer before the judge ruled. She does that a lot. And then says "I'm sorry" afterwards.
    Oh Geez... I thought I caught something sneaky...
    I've not seen her do it before, but that is usually because I am disgusted with everything that comes out of her mouth & am rolling my eyes or just closing them in disbelief

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    totally had to clean up before leaving the room. just another reason i don't believe the black out story. i don't believe she had any blood on her clothes or hands when she pulled over in the desert. if she did, there'd be blood all over the house. if she's lying about having blood on her at that point, then she was aware of everything she did. case closed.



    i found it funny and i don't think he was a douche bag. i think he was a normal guy. sounds like a normal guy who's had too much to me.
    Completely agree on the clean up part. Well said.

    Second part, I probably shouldn't have spoken in such generalities. I see what you are saying.
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    [QUOTE=animosity;3340716]totally had to clean up before leaving the room. just another reason i don't believe the black out story. i don't believe she had any blood on her clothes or hands when she pulled over in the desert. if she did, there'd be blood all over the house. if she's lying about having blood on her at that point, then she was aware of everything she did. case closed.

    QUOTE]

    Not to mention, LE would have found blood in the car. I believe she cleaned up and changed her clothes before leaving the house. This was planned, when she took her bags out to the car, she brought in the weapons and a change of clothes. Sister B mentioned her carrying something like a backpack. She had to have something to take away the murder weapons. She didn't run out of the house, covered in blood, carrying a gun, a knife and a rope. I'm pretty sure someone would have noticed that.

    ETA: I know there wasn't a rope, I was following her testimony.
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