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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Did Travis' camera have a neck strap? For some reason every time I picture it, it would make perfect sense if she had a neck strap on the camera while she was taking pictures and it was hung around her neck during the killing. This could explain how she had both hands free to be all stabby/fighty, and the camera was either accidentally still on a timer, or accidentally hitting the shutter button during the struggle. If the neck strap was long enough, it would be the perfect height to have taken the dragging photos if Jodi was bent over dragging with it hanging around her neck.
    The neck strap was found still sealed in a bag in the camera bag. That makes no sense to me as a camera owner. The neck strap is important so photographers don't drop the camera. Was it so new, that the strap wasn't assembled yet? Why the hurry to use it without the strap? It literally takes 2 seconds to attach to the camera. It amkes me wonder about the used duct tape found at the scene. Did she tape the camera to her hand?

    Also, the pic where he is naked on the bed with his hand up with 2 fingers up like a weird peace sign? It looks like something is in his hand...the remote for the camera maybe?

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    IF Travis could testify

    Nurmi: Travis, so after you and Ms. Arias had relations in the office, what happened?

    Travis: Yeah, we had sex (again!) in my office because that nympho wanted more attention and I thought it would make her leave. I was done quick and she washed up in the bathroom. She took a check for $200 out of her purse. I put it on my desk and carried her luggage out to her car. I figured she was gone so I went upstairs to shave my presidential beard. Next thing I know, there's Jodi in my bathroom with the camera and her purse. I thought she was gone already!

    Nurmi: So how did you feel Mr. Alexander?

    Travis: Pissed off. I can't get rid of this woman. I have stuff to do. An important call. A trip to Mexico. Organizing my pristine closet.

    Nurmi: And what happens next?

    Travis: She starts talking about taking shower photos. Just to put on her stupid Myspace. She could never get enough of Myspace and posting photos. I figured the easiest way to get rid of her was to play along. I got in the shower and started to show off. I was worried she was going to blackmail me with these on ldslinkup.net and I felt trapped into doing it. That's when she started back on the Mexico trip.

    Nurmi: Mexico? You mean your PPL trip to Cancun for two?

    Travis: That's the one. Jodi starts talking about how she read my text messages and she knows that I'm not taking that babysitter. I was really taking Mimi, I was hoping I could break her down on the trip with my motivational speaking and slip it into that uptight Mormon backdoor. But now my cover was blown. And Jodi's taking pictures and saying she knows I'm a liar, I'm busted, and I'm just like, bitch please! Just GTFO!

    Nurmi: I'd like to enter exhibit 69, the "bitch please!" photo.



    Judge: Exhibit 69 is admitted.

    Nurmi: So Jodi was confronting you. What did she do?

    Travis: Jodi tells me

    Martinez: Objection! Hearsay!

    Judge: Overruled

    Travis: So, Jodi says that if I don't take her to Mexico and marry her on the beach in front of everyone from Prepaid Legal, that I will lose her forever. If I take Mimi to Cancun, Jodi threatened to drive to Utah right now to fuck Ryan Burns until his dick falls off. That sounded great so I sat down, right there in my own fucking shower. Just to process this and chill. I looked up and I said have a good time in West Jordan! I could taste freedom, she was about to bounce. Jodi was now some other man's problem. Better him than me.

    Nurmi: And then what?

    Travis: I'm sitting in the shower, arms on my knees, looking down and shaking my head, like WTF is wrong with her? Next thin I know I felt a crushing pain in my chest and Jodi was on me like a spider monkey.

    Nurmi: A spider monkey? What do you mean by spider monkey? Can you get up and demonstrate to us what you mean by spider monkey?

    Travis: I would love to, but I'm dead. Anyway, she stabs me right in the heart with a chef's knife I won for being Arizona salesman of the year. I used that knife to make brownies for the Mormon bake sale. She's screaming "fucking kill you, you cheating bitch!" and stabbing again and again. I struggle to my feet and she is riding on my back, stabbing away as I wobble to the sink, now I realize I'm spitting up blood. This just got real.

    Nurmi: How were you feeling at this moment?

    Travis: Terrified. I was shaking like a chihuahua and the knife was bouncing off my skull. The lights were starting to dim but I saw daylight at the end of the hall. If I could just get down the stairs and into the street, someone would see me and get me to a hospital.

    Nurmi: What do you remember next?

    Travis: Well, my memory starts to get foggy. There is a huge gap. I was losing blood and the adrenaline was flowing. It was fight or flight. I'm crawling down the hallway bleeding, and she catches up to me at the end. She flips me onto my back and I can feel the carpet under my head. I almost made it. And then she slit my throat. I bled out all over the carpet.

    Nurmi: What did that feel like?

    Travis: I wasn't feeling too much right then, it was just like the sun setting. I was trying to remember good things and pray for forgiveness and mercy. I was just asking God for help and protection.

    Nurmi: And then?

    Travis: Jodi dragged me back into the bathroom on a bed sheet and shot me in the head with the gun she stole from her grandmother.

    Nrumi: So self defense, were you defending yourself?

    Travis: I never had a chance. Even if I wanted to defend myself I was trapped in the shower all naked and wet and the first stab pretty much was enough to kill me. I held up my hands and she stabbed my hands. I turned my back and she stabbed my back. It was even more symbolic, to use one of Jodi's favorite ideas, that she stabbed me in the heart since she had been trying to rip it out since the day I met her.

    Judge: Jodi is crying again! RECESS!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    Jean K just said there is no re-cross in AZ.
    There has been through the whole trial.

    "When the prosecution?s side has completed its questioning of a witness, the defense is allowed to cross-examine the witness on any relevant matter.

    After cross-examination, the attorney who originally called the witness may ask additional questions of the witness to clarify something touched on in the cross-examination. This is redirect examination. The judge may allow an opportunity for the opposing attorney to recross examine."

    http://www.azcourts.gov/PublicServices/CriminalLaw.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    I remember seeing pics of the camera case... pages and pages back, I think the strap was still in the case. I could be totally wrong, though.
    Yeah I remember that too... I think it was still in the camera bag with instructions or something like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Simmons View Post
    There has been through the whole trial.

    "When the prosecution?s side has completed its questioning of a witness, the defense is allowed to cross-examine the witness on any relevant matter.

    After cross-examination, the attorney who originally called the witness may ask additional questions of the witness to clarify something touched on in the cross-examination. This is redirect examination. The judge may allow an opportunity for the opposing attorney to recross examine."

    http://www.azcourts.gov/PublicServices/CriminalLaw.aspx
    That's great. I was hoping she was wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Busybody View Post
    During testimony yesterday, she kept making a point to say "that wasnt where it landed" when Juan asked about the shell casing. I wish he would've asked her where she thought it landed since she is all over the place with everything else that happend.
    Yes I wish he would have said "I thought everything that happened after the shot was a fog?" something like that
    If she has no memory of things in that bathroom after a certain point, she would not remember where the shell casing landed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Made up a questionnaire this morning. Thought some of you might be in the same boat as me...Jodi Arias Trial Questionnaire.


    1. Are you spending every Jodi Arias trial day glued to the TV and or computer?
    2. At night, are you watching every bit of Jodi Arias trial coverage on TV after watching a full day of trial coverage?
    3. Do you get upset that there is no court on Fridays?
    4. Do you get upset that court starts late and ends early?
    5. Have you told people in your life, "What do you want?! I'm watching my trial!!!!!!!"?
    6. Are you arguing with trolls?
    7. When arguing with trolls, can you feel your blood pressure rising?
    8. When arguing with trolls, do you tell your loved ones, "LEAVE ME ALONE! I'M ARGUING!"?
    9. Have you "liked" nearly every page associated with this trial on Facebook?
    10. Is your newsfeed a continuous stream of trial stuff?
    11. Have you seen all the autopsy photos you can get your hands on?
    12. Have you had fantasies of driving to Phoenix, Arizona to sit in the gallery?
    13. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and shaking the truth out of her?
    14. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and ripping her throat out?
    15. Is your housework suffering because of the trial?
    16. Is your yard work suffering because of the trial?
    17. When your husband is feeling frisky, do you think, "uh oh.."?
    18. When you get an inkling that your husband might be getting frisky, do you panic and say, "oh my gosh! Look what someone sent me today!" -show latest crime scene photo- "poor Travis!" :(
    19. Have you preemptively warned your husband that you'll divorce him if he even HINTS at wanting to give you anal sex...even though he's never asked for it before?
    20. Do you think you might be addicted to this trial and find it strange that you are watching Dr. Drew, (an addiction specialist) feeding your addiction?
    21. Are you looking for Jinkasauras pictures on the Internet?
    22. Do you find yourself cussing more?
    23. Are you strangely attracted to Juan Martinez?
    24. Do you wake up at 4am and think, "Wow! I slept in!" (Applies only to the West Coast)
    25. Have you PM'd Gus Searcy on Facebook only to tell him that he's a total creeper?

    ****If you have answered "yes" to 5 or more of the above questions...you're in good company! :)
    Haha almost all but not 6 thru 8 (yet)

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    So oddly I was n the shower thing about a couple of things:

    1 when she was talking about the bullet casing she mentions there was blood before hand and wants to elaborate but JM cuts her off

    2 If he fell to the right of her after shooting you would think there was a lot of blood on the floor towards to tub, she couldn't have washed it all off with a few cups of water w/o it getting all off the baseboards (who cleans up a crime scene while in a fog. Lol)
    3 I hope on recross nurmi just let's her go on and on and she slips up on something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post


    I know the ME said he believes the shot more than likely came last, but this angle is pretty consistent with the gun shot trajectory if she was standing next to him with the gun. I think may have shot him with her left hand and accidentally pressed the camera button at the same time with her right.

    IDK...the whole thing is confusing.
    If you notice his right arm is raised in this pic. I think she is swinging a knife and he has his arm raised to block it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs. Busybody View Post
    And, it looks like his legs are crossed....I wonder if she told him to do this? It would be very difficult for him to get up if she was attacking him with a knife or to defend himself if she was pointing a gun at him....
    I don't think his legs are crossed...it's an illusion, he has big calves and it looks like he is leaning a bit away from the camera. If you look at the pic right before it shows the legs in the same position and you can see they aren't crossed

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Does anyone know what model his camera was? I'd like to look and see if it came with a neck strap. Most of the "higher end" ones do. I don't think one was ever found, she may have gotten rid of that too because if it was discovered the neck strap existed, she could have never dropped the camera, Travis wouldn't have come at her for dropping the camera, and there goes her entire story.

    I really think the first photo of the lights was accidentally taken during the struggle with the camera hung around her neck.
    It was a Sony, I don't remember the model. The neck strap was still folded up in the camera bag I believe. But, Jodi had 2 cameras there I believe she said -- 2 of her own. She could have used one of her straps. Or, I always kinda wondered did she get Travis a special neck strap, and maybe presented it to him that way. Something personalized, since she was supposedly this wanna-be pro photographer.



    Or perhaps it had a hand strap.

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    "Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez

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    Quote Originally Posted by twilit View Post
    Juan was wrong about the shaving she talked about in the Flores interview being that day if his murder. We know she was talking about another day because Jodi Said during the interrogation "I guess he liked the shaving pic i took because he used it as his MySpace profile pic" which is indeed what he has up with comments dating back before that day of his murder. I think the lie Jodi told was actually the part about him being unshaven which hurt her during oral so she told him to stop. That was the lie she told to help make the rope story stick. I wonder if nurmi is on the ball enough to show Travis's MySpace profile shaving pic to rebut Juan's insistence about what she meant.
    Some where around there is another version of Travis' shaving picture with JA saying Travis took it himself with his new camera. Might be in interrogations? or under direct? Sorry can't remember. Want to say, its somewhere around her version when the text were shown of him pissed off because she didn't get his photos uploaded. Then she whined about bad angry Travis, her drive froze and she was taking wedding pics she had to get done.

    What he has up on myspace doesn't give a date. Those can be changed anytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    If you notice his right arm is raised in this pic. I think she is swinging a knife and he has his arm raised to block it.
    I think so too

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    I don't think his legs are crossed...it's an illusion, he has big calves and it looks like he is leaning a bit away from the camera. If you look at the pic right before it shows the legs in the same position and you can see they aren't crossed
    Thanks!!! I didn't remember them being crossed when I had seen this in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    It was a Sony, I don't remember the model. The neck strap was still folded up in the camera bag I believe. But, Jodi had 2 cameras there I believe she said -- 2 of her own. She could have used one of her straps. Or, I always kinda wondered did she get Travis a special neck strap, and maybe presented it to him that way. Something personalized, since she was supposedly this wanna-be pro photographer.



    Or perhaps it had a hand strap.

    http://www.blackrapid.com/
    Yeah, that hand strap would explain a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I was in and out during the testimony yesterday. Did I imagine it or did she say that she did shower while standing over his body? Additionally, I didn't hear anything about the eyes...so she admitted closing them?
    His eyes are closed in the shower pic, at least it looks like they are to me. So, I just assumed she closed them. It is really speculation, but murdered people usually die with their eyes open, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by cnoevil View Post
    Hi,
    just registered. I have questions.

    when jodi was describing the linebacker pose,
    she was very specific about him turning his head as he lunged.
    seems odd that she would remember him turning his head.

    then when she did the demo, she turned her head and bent forward.
    each time she did it she turned her head exactly the same way.

    I take it this is meant to show that the bullet would have entered and
    exited in a way that matches the forensics. Is that right?

    Did they mention that?

    I know she admitted earlier that she made up the ninja story to "comport" with the forensic evidence.
    Welcome!
    Yes, Jodi was trying to make the forensics of how and where the bullet entered Travis' head match up with her defense story. She seemed to forget that what she described would be a gun shot from a very close distance. The experts testified that the gun shot had to be fired from several feet away. There is NO stippling on Travis at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by cnoevil View Post
    oh no, I thought that was just a smiley. didnt see the finger till after I posted.
    How do I change that?
    Hee hee! I though it was just you being funny. We are pretty laid back around here. No worries! :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Iwanthetruth2 View Post
    Real quick bc there to many threads, has the user that make Jodi's diary entry's from the trail still posting? I love reading them! Lol..... the ones like this: so Juan tried to make me remember what happened to Travis today I didn't want to tell I know everything it's fun to just go in circles with him........
    I am the one who creates the Dear Diary posts. :) I leave a list of where to find them on my profile page in the message section. :) Glad you like them!
    Jodi's "Dear Diary" posts are found here:
    #17525 (pg 701), #18091 (pg 724), #18639 (pg 746), #19819 (pg 793), #22280 (pg 892), #24101 (pg 965), #25466 (pg 1019), #27933 (pg 1118), #29121 (pg 1165), #30658 (pg 1227), #32488 (pg 1300), #33999 (pg 1360), #35304 (pg 1413), #36791 (pg 1472) - See more at: http://mydeathspace.com/vb/member.ph....K4rBLDI1.dpuf

    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Did Travis' camera have a neck strap? For some reason every time I picture it, it would make perfect sense if she had a neck strap on the camera while she was taking pictures and it was hung around her neck during the killing. This could explain how she had both hands free to be all stabby/fighty, and the camera was either accidentally still on a timer, or accidentally hitting the shutter button during the struggle. If the neck strap was long enough, it would be the perfect height to have taken the dragging photos if Jodi was bent over dragging with it hanging around her neck.
    I seem to recall testimony from someone saying the strap (possibly neck) to Travis' camera was still in the box. I might be wrong though. ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Hmm, I wanna try to find this. I looked at the youtube where they showed the camera, it most definitely came with a neck strap, you can see the connectors for it on the stand.
    Try Heather Connor testimony she is the one that took it out of the bag. She testified a few times but I'd start when she returned after the ME testified out of order.
    I believe is was a Nurmi question.

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    My point and shoot is the same camera.... BTW video mode is simple to operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    I don't think his legs are crossed...it's an illusion, he has big calves and it looks like he is leaning a bit away from the camera. If you look at the pic right before it shows the legs in the same position and you can see they aren't crossed
    I do see his right leg crossed over his left... I see what you mean though, your seeing his right leg bent & the bulge of his calf behind his thigh?

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    Those sitting pics are really odd. Maybe she was attempting to take a full nude shot and he didn't want that so he sat down to hide his privates. Perhaps she was waving a knife around saying she was going to cut his gonads off, so he sat down. I really think she showed him the knife and was making some sort of threat, either to him or a suicide threat to herself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    I think so too
    Or maybe his arm raised like stop...as in stop taking these stupid pics and he is blocking the cameras view of his face

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    Thinking that he could have been on that trip, that he probably would have seen her and they could have seen those things makes it cruel and tragic where Travis is concerned. He was far from finished with Jodi, I wish she would give an honest mea culpa and explain why she did this
    day 7 links
    trial but includes all interrogation I was talking about
    37:25 is about parents not surprised
    41:55 arrived Travis' 3 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9RPbmVCSk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hku9ls9VUs

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Some where around there is another version of Travis' shaving picture with JA saying Travis took it himself with his new camera. Might be in interrogations? or under direct? Sorry can't remember. Want to say, its somewhere around her version when the text were shown of him pissed off because she didn't get his photos uploaded. Then she whined about bad angry Travis, her drive froze and she was taking wedding pics she had to get done.

    What he has up on myspace doesn't give a date. Those can be changed anytime.
    Yah - we know that the Myspace profile pic Jodi was talking about in the interrogation video was taken no later than April based on the comment from Jodi on the pic. I'm really confused as to why JM played that part of it 5 times for her yesterday. That was crazy.

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    Did anyone else watch Vinnie Pollitan and Mike Brooks recreate Jodi's story of what happened when she murdered Travis? It's so not possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    I hoped that Juan would go through every gory photo but now I'm glad he didn't. He can revisit the pics again if any new information is presented in redirect testimony next week.

    O/T - has Ron from NY been here lately? I am curious how he reads ja's testimony yesterday about dragging Travis down the hallway - by herself. He has been so passionate in his belief that she could never done it alone. I am glad that issue was resolved by her own testimony.

    Also O/T but does anyone else wonder why ja did not blame the murder on Bobby? He was killed shortly before her arrest. Right? She could have blamed it on him as a jealous lovers revenge. Like Travis, he would not be there to defend himself. At the least she could have alleged Bobby was the male ninja.
    I was just reading and in AZ the prosecution does not get to question Jodi again, Nurmi will try to make excuses for her and then juror questions.
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