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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    I look at it the same way, Deb. I think she used both hands.
    Does anyone know what model his camera was? I'd like to look and see if it came with a neck strap. Most of the "higher end" ones do. I don't think one was ever found, she may have gotten rid of that too because if it was discovered the neck strap existed, she could have never dropped the camera, Travis wouldn't have come at her for dropping the camera, and there goes her entire story.

    I really think the first photo of the lights was accidentally taken during the struggle with the camera hung around her neck.

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    Hi... Long time reader, first time poster. You guys are fantastic! Best site ever! God, I hope this posts right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Does anyone know what model his camera was? I'd like to look and see if it came with a neck strap. Most of the "higher end" ones do. I don't think one was ever found, she may have gotten rid of that too because if it was discovered the neck strap existed, she could have never dropped the camera, Travis wouldn't have come at her for dropping the camera, and there goes her entire story.

    I really think the first photo of the lights was accidentally taken during the struggle with the camera hung around her neck.
    I think this is his camera shown on trial day 6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZkqVwCbgtA

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    Remember when Jodi started crying before the lunch recess yesterday and Nurmi walked up to her and whispered a couple things. He said are you okay and she kind of nodded and he then said just take a minute.

    Someone asked if he said stupid pen I rewound it and listened to it about 10 times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Does anyone know what model his camera was? I'd like to look and see if it came with a neck strap. Most of the "higher end" ones do. I don't think one was ever found, she may have gotten rid of that too because if it was discovered the neck strap existed, she could have never dropped the camera, Travis wouldn't have come at her for dropping the camera, and there goes her entire story.

    I really think the first photo of the lights was accidentally taken during the struggle with the camera hung around her neck.
    I remember seeing pics of the camera case... pages and pages back, I think the strap was still in the case. I could be totally wrong, though.

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    Made up a questionnaire this morning. Thought some of you might be in the same boat as me...Jodi Arias Trial Questionnaire.


    1. Are you spending every Jodi Arias trial day glued to the TV and or computer?
    2. At night, are you watching every bit of Jodi Arias trial coverage on TV after watching a full day of trial coverage?
    3. Do you get upset that there is no court on Fridays?
    4. Do you get upset that court starts late and ends early?
    5. Have you told people in your life, "What do you want?! I'm watching my trial!!!!!!!"?
    6. Are you arguing with trolls?
    7. When arguing with trolls, can you feel your blood pressure rising?
    8. When arguing with trolls, do you tell your loved ones, "LEAVE ME ALONE! I'M ARGUING!"?
    9. Have you "liked" nearly every page associated with this trial on Facebook?
    10. Is your newsfeed a continuous stream of trial stuff?
    11. Have you seen all the autopsy photos you can get your hands on?
    12. Have you had fantasies of driving to Phoenix, Arizona to sit in the gallery?
    13. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and shaking the truth out of her?
    14. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and ripping her throat out?
    15. Is your housework suffering because of the trial?
    16. Is your yard work suffering because of the trial?
    17. When your husband is feeling frisky, do you think, "uh oh.."?
    18. When you get an inkling that your husband might be getting frisky, do you panic and say, "oh my gosh! Look what someone sent me today!" -show latest crime scene photo- "poor Travis!" :(
    19. Have you preemptively warned your husband that you'll divorce him if he even HINTS at wanting to give you anal sex...even though he's never asked for it before?
    20. Do you think you might be addicted to this trial and find it strange that you are watching Dr. Drew, (an addiction specialist) feeding your addiction?
    21. Are you looking for Jinkasauras pictures on the Internet?
    22. Do you find yourself cussing more?
    23. Are you strangely attracted to Juan Martinez?
    24. Do you wake up at 4am and think, "Wow! I slept in!" (Applies only to the West Coast)
    25. Have you PM'd Gus Searcy on Facebook only to tell him that he's a total creeper?

    ****If you have answered "yes" to 5 or more of the above questions...you're in good company! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    no rope in bedroom = no reason for knife to be there either

    I don't believe the rope was ever in the bedroom. There was no reason for her take it with her, except to cover up that she was there at all.

    These are some of the questions I've come up with:

    How does Travis, who's sitting down in a teeny tiny shower, naked and wet, suddenly stand up to tackle Jodi outside the shower? If he was worried about the camera, wouldn't he have more reasonably leaned out of the shower to catch it?
    And, how on earth did that camera move from the shower area (where she claims to have dropped it) to the end of the hallway near the carpeted bedroom to take the dragging pic?
    Plus, she wants us to believe she jumped up for a gun in the far corner of a closet, instead of running out the door that was right there?
    And, lastly, how do we know he was going to "kill" her? She based her whole reason for shooting him on the incident in August 2007, right? But in that incident, Travis only hugged her?
    Lastly, if Travis said anything like "kill you bitch," it was AFTER she shot him, right? Doesn't Travis deserve self defense after being shot?
    What bothers me about this whole scenario is that Jodi was able to get away from him several times. If she is to be believed, she had the opportunity to leave, she just didn't take it...she turned the first time into the closet, and then left the closet into the bathroom with the gun and turned around to shoot.

    Hell, nothing about her story makes sense to me. It's more believable that she just wanted Travis DEAD, and that's exactly what she accomplished.
    BBM -- I wasn't able to watch the entire cross yesterday. Regarding the above bold: Did JM address this at all yesterday? Did he question her as to whether she picked up the camera at some point during the "struggle?" Did he ask her anything about the camera being found in the washer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    I remember seeing pics of the camera case... pages and pages back, I think the strap was still in the case.
    Yes, no strap on the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    I remember seeing pics of the camera case... pages and pages back, I think the strap was still in the case. I could be totally wrong, though.
    Hmm, I wanna try to find this. I looked at the youtube where they showed the camera, it most definitely came with a neck strap, you can see the connectors for it on the stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    I remember seeing pics of the camera case... pages and pages back, I think the strap was still in the case. I could be totally wrong, though.
    no your right - they said the strap was still in the case and still wrapped in plastic - never opened

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    no your right - they said the strap was still in the case and still wrapped in plastic - never opened
    well damn. there goes my theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by debk589 View Post
    Does anyone know what model his camera was? I'd like to look and see if it came with a neck strap. Most of the "higher end" ones do. I don't think one was ever found, she may have gotten rid of that too because if it was discovered the neck strap existed, she could have never dropped the camera, Travis wouldn't have come at her for dropping the camera, and there goes her entire story.

    I really think the first photo of the lights was accidentally taken during the struggle with the camera hung around her neck.
    Its possible if she decided to use her own neck strap - which she would have had since she was trying to be a professional photographer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Made up a questionnaire this morning. Thought some of you might be in the same boat as me...Jodi Arias Trial Questionnaire.


    1. Are you spending every Jodi Arias trial day glued to the TV and or computer?
    2. At night, are you watching every bit of Jodi Arias trial coverage on TV after watching a full day of trial coverage?
    3. Do you get upset that there is no court on Fridays?
    4. Do you get upset that court starts late and ends early?
    5. Have you told people in your life, "What do you want?! I'm watching my trial!!!!!!!"?
    6. Are you arguing with trolls?
    7. When arguing with trolls, can you feel your blood pressure rising?
    8. When arguing with trolls, do you tell your loved ones, "LEAVE ME ALONE! I'M ARGUING!"?
    9. Have you "liked" nearly every page associated with this trial on Facebook?
    10. Is your newsfeed a continuous stream of trial stuff?
    11. Have you seen all the autopsy photos you can get your hands on?
    12. Have you had fantasies of driving to Phoenix, Arizona to sit in the gallery?
    13. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and shaking the truth out of her?
    14. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and ripping her throat out?
    15. Is your housework suffering because of the trial?
    16. Is your yard work suffering because of the trial?
    17. When your husband is feeling frisky, do you think, "uh oh.."?
    18. When you get an inkling that your husband might be getting frisky, do you panic and say, "oh my gosh! Look what someone sent me today!" -show latest crime scene photo- "poor Travis!" :(
    19. Have you preemptively warned your husband that you'll divorce him if he even HINTS at wanting to give you anal sex...even though he's never asked for it before?
    20. Do you think you might be addicted to this trial and find it strange that you are watching Dr. Drew, (an addiction specialist) feeding your addiction?
    21. Are you looking for Jinkasauras pictures on the Internet?
    22. Do you find yourself cussing more?
    23. Are you strangely attracted to Juan Martinez?
    24. Do you wake up at 4am and think, "Wow! I slept in!" (Applies only to the West Coast)
    25. Have you PM'd Gus Searcy on Facebook only to tell him that he's a total creeper?

    ****If you have answered "yes" to 5 or more of the above questions...you're in good company! :)
    26. Did you join an online forum to discuss your ideas on the case/ join others as obsessed as you!

    Great post BTW!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    BBM -- I wasn't able to watch the entire cross yesterday. Regarding the above bold: Did JM address this at all yesterday? Did he question her as to whether she picked up the camera at some point during the "struggle?" Did he ask her anything about the camera being found in the washer?
    She said she doesn't remember how the camera got there but she acknowledged it was her that moved it. Same with it ending up in the washer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
    NO. Everyone is pro-death, pro Sheriff Nottingham. It's insane. I think she's guilty, too, and I'm not a DP proponent.
    Im against the death Penalty. I definitely think SHE IS GUILTY, PREMEDITATED 1st Degree MURDER. Life without Parole for her, for how cruel and torturous and planned it was and for her complete total lack of remorse.

    I am a huge supporter of the Innocence Project. Our justice system is way too flawed to put people to death. Troy Davis is a perfect example. and Damien Ecchols was very close to being another. And there are many more.

    And when even if someone is beyond a doubt as guilty as hell, I still could never agree with the death penalty. But thats just a personal opinion/feeling. We are all individuals with our own beliefs

    i'll go hide again...

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    I know the ME said he believes the shot more than likely came last, but this angle is pretty consistent with the gun shot trajectory if she was standing next to him with the gun. I think may have shot him with her left hand and accidentally pressed the camera button at the same time with her right.

    IDK...the whole thing is confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    BBM -- I wasn't able to watch the entire cross yesterday. Regarding the above bold: Did JM address this at all yesterday? Did he question her as to whether she picked up the camera at some point during the "struggle?" Did he ask her anything about the camera being found in the washer?
    I've been asking myself those exact questions as well (both posters).

    JM did mention the camera in the washing machine but only briefly, asking her if in fact it wasn't she who put the camera in the washing machine. She said yes, I "must have." But he made no more of the camera in the wash, didn't speak about the two loads of laundry that she did, the sheets.

    And I will never believe that he stood up from that seated position (in the shower on his butt) to reach down to the kneeling Jodi, lifting her and body slamming her. Her claim that the camera, dropped a mere two feet to a soft bathmat, bounced TWICE then rolled to the side, doesn't make sense either! I took an old Nixon SLR camera I have that's no longer working, and dropped it 3 feet onto a bathmat and it just dropped...thud. Didn't bounce, didn't roll.

    And like "Doll Face," I still haven't heard JM explain or speculate how/why the camera, which was on the floor of the bathroom after she shot him, found its way to the end of the hallway. Did she take it with her as she chased him down the hallway? How did the "dragging" picture and the other "accidental" shot of her foot on the threshold get taken? That's still confusing me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Hi... Long time reader, first time poster. You guys are fantastic! Best site ever! God, I hope this posts right!
    Welcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Made up a questionnaire this morning. Thought some of you might be in the same boat as me...Jodi Arias Trial Questionnaire.


    1. Are you spending every Jodi Arias trial day glued to the TV and or computer?
    2. At night, are you watching every bit of Jodi Arias trial coverage on TV after watching a full day of trial coverage?
    3. Do you get upset that there is no court on Fridays?
    4. Do you get upset that court starts late and ends early?
    5. Have you told people in your life, "What do you want?! I'm watching my trial!!!!!!!"?
    6. Are you arguing with trolls?
    7. When arguing with trolls, can you feel your blood pressure rising?
    8. When arguing with trolls, do you tell your loved ones, "LEAVE ME ALONE! I'M ARGUING!"?
    9. Have you "liked" nearly every page associated with this trial on Facebook?
    10. Is your newsfeed a continuous stream of trial stuff?
    11. Have you seen all the autopsy photos you can get your hands on?
    12. Have you had fantasies of driving to Phoenix, Arizona to sit in the gallery?
    13. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and shaking the truth out of her?
    14. Have you had fantasies of grabbing Jodi Arias by the neck and ripping her throat out?
    15. Is your housework suffering because of the trial?
    16. Is your yard work suffering because of the trial?
    17. When your husband is feeling frisky, do you think, "uh oh.."?
    18. When you get an inkling that your husband might be getting frisky, do you panic and say, "oh my gosh! Look what someone sent me today!" -show latest crime scene photo- "poor Travis!" :(
    19. Have you preemptively warned your husband that you'll divorce him if he even HINTS at wanting to give you anal sex...even though he's never asked for it before?
    20. Do you think you might be addicted to this trial and find it strange that you are watching Dr. Drew, (an addiction specialist) feeding your addiction?
    21. Are you looking for Jinkasauras pictures on the Internet?
    22. Do you find yourself cussing more?
    23. Are you strangely attracted to Juan Martinez?
    24. Do you wake up at 4am and think, "Wow! I slept in!" (Applies only to the West Coast)
    25. Have you PM'd Gus Searcy on Facebook only to tell him that he's a total creeper?

    ****If you have answered "yes" to 5 or more of the above questions...you're in good company! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post


    I know the ME said he believes the shot more than likely came last, but this angle is pretty consistent with the gun shot trajectory if she was standing next to him with the gun. I think may have shot him with her left hand and accidentally pressed the camera button at the same time with her right.

    IDK...the whole thing is confusing.
    Hmm, could be, except that the bullet casing was found (top side free of any blood spatter) laying on top of a large pool of blood. The casing fell onto the blood pool, and if she shot him first, that pool of blood would not have been there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post


    I know the ME said he believes the shot more than likely came last, but this angle is pretty consistent with the gun shot trajectory if she was standing next to him with the gun. I think may have shot him with her left hand and accidentally pressed the camera button at the same time with her right.

    IDK...the whole thing is confusing.

    And, it looks like his legs are crossed....I wonder if she told him to do this? It would be very difficult for him to get up if she was attacking him with a knife or to defend himself if she was pointing a gun at him....

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    not that it matters anymore, but this is what I saw in the "eyeball" ....


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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    Hmm, could be, except that the bullet casing was found (top side free of any blood spatter) laying on top of a large pool of blood. The casing fell onto the blood pool, and if she shot him first, that pool of blood would not have been there.
    I've always thought the casing could have been kicked into the blood during the struggle....if she did shoot him first. But I know that is going against the ME.

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    During testimony yesterday, she kept making a point to say "that wasnt where it landed" when Juan asked about the shell casing. I wish he would've asked her where she thought it landed since she is all over the place with everything else that happend.

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    Thank you. Love #26! Guilty as charged!

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    Jean K just said there is no re-cross in AZ.

    ETA: I have on HLN, they are recreating Jodi's claim that Travis attacked her. So far they are saying her story doesn't make sense. As we've been saying all along, but it's interesting to see.
    Last edited by Crazy Lady; 03-01-2013 at 11:24 AM.
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