Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[sheesh]

-Are we positive that Martinez gets a chance to recross Jodi? Have any of the witnesses been "recrossed" yet? I don't recall anyone. But I could be completely wrong. I only recall direct, cross, and redirect.

Recross examination refers to resumption of cross-examination by the original cross-examiner in order to respond to matters that may have arisen during the re-examination of a witness. However recross examination can only deal with those subjects addressed in redirect examination.

The following are examples of caselaw discussing recross examination:

There is no right to recross-examine a witness, provided the scope of any redirect examination is limited to matters raised on cross-examination. Whether to allow recross-examination is left to the trial court's "broad discretion." [Green v. United States, 718 A.2d 1042 (D.C. 1998)]

Recross-examination should be limited to the scope of redirect examination, or matters affecting the credibility of the witness. [State v. Cordeiro, 99 Haw. 390 (Haw. 2002)]

[sheesh]

I'm also wondering why she took the photos of the bloody places outside the bathroom? the ceiling pic may have been accidental but those had to be purposeful, seemed nothing but ghoulish.... I was waiting for an explanation. can anyone answer that for me?

She had the camera in her right hand and the knife in her left hand -- Jodi is left-handed.

The camera was used to gain access to an open shower with him in it ..... so he would not be alarmed if she had ripped open the door.

The camera was the key to the shower door.

She had him turn with his back to her or bend down, then attacked with her left (strong) hand stabbing him as fast as she could...

He turned, raised his hands to protect himself which resulted in his defensive slash wounds...

Travis physically engaged her and they struggled down to the end of the hall when he lost the ability to fight.

She had the camera in her hand -- not thinking to let it go & perhaps whacking him with it. That's why the accidental bloody pics.

She then dragged/pushed his limp body back into the bathroom down the slippery hallway...

She realized he was not yet dead -- perhaps he was moaning in pain -- sooooooooo....

She retrieved her grandfather's gun from her purse or counter and either 1)put him out of his misery or 2)killed him 1000% dead.



Then she dragged & stuffed him into the shower and began cleaning up to cover her tracks.

[Justice11]

Recross examination refers to resumption of cross-examination by the original cross-examiner in order to respond to matters that may have arisen during the re-examination of a witness. However recross examination can only deal with those subjects addressed in redirect examination.

The following are examples of caselaw discussing recross examination:

There is no right to recross-examine a witness, provided the scope of any redirect examination is limited to matters raised on cross-examination. Whether to allow recross-examination is left to the trial court's "broad discretion." [Green v. United States, 718 A.2d 1042 (D.C. 1998)]

Recross-examination should be limited to the scope of redirect examination, or matters affecting the credibility of the witness. [State v. Cordeiro, 99 Haw. 390 (Haw. 2002)]

Thank you. Yes, I understand most all of that. The part that sticks out to me is this: "Whether to allow recross-examination is left to the trial court's "broad discretion."

Has Judge Sherry been allowing any recross? I can't remember for sure. I think I remember her excusing the witness without asking if the other lawyer wanted to recross.
Maybe she "leaves it to her discretion" on each witness?

I guess I could go rematch some of the trial on YouTube. Or, I can just wait and see.

[zeebee]

Does anyone have any thoughts on why JM made such a big deal about the shaving? Sorry if it was discussed at the time, I missed a lot of posts yeatserday.

[Crystalette247]

Does anyone have any thoughts on why JM made such a big deal about the shaving? Sorry if it was discussed at the time, I missed a lot of posts yeatserday.

Not completely sure. I do know that there was a little bit of a misunderstanding that Jodi saw and took advantage of.

Basically Jodi was talking in the interview about two separate occasions. She brought up how shy Travis was the first time she tried to convince him to let her take pictures. He was shaving and they came out good and he used a pic on his myspace profile.
The second time was the day of the murder. She talks about it right after so Juan seems to have confused the shaving with that murder day. Make sense?

[DenverClipper]

Does anyone have any thoughts on why JM made such a big deal about the shaving? Sorry if it was discussed at the time, I missed a lot of posts yeatserday.

I think Juan wanted to establish that there was some truth to the Flores interview when ja said it was HER idea to take the shower pics because when Travis had shaved earlier in the day he was annoyed with her taking pics. This proves she lied when she said on the stand that it was Travis' idea to take pics of his new buff bod.

ETA - this also contradicts her testimony that he "invited" her upstairs after their downstairs fight so she could take the pics. She said in the Flores interview that Travis did NOT like his pic taken in the shower.

[kathystaind]

She claimed that while tied up receiving oral sex, she made him quit because he had NOT shaven and it hurt. The pictures of him in shower and autopsy photos clearing show a clean shaven face

[marycontrary]

Does anyone have any thoughts on why JM made such a big deal about the shaving? Sorry if it was discussed at the time, I missed a lot of posts yeatserday.

It has to do with the rope. She claimed she was tied to the bed and Travis was doing oral on her, but it wasn't working for them because his stubble was uncomfortable. She testified he had not shaved. I think he is trying to show that there was no rope.

[M Joy]

-I am dreading Jodi answering questions from the jurors. She will go on and on "explaining" everything to her benefit. Can Martinez direct her to only answer yes or no?

I'm not sure that Martinez can direct her when answering juror questions. I want to say that would be up to the judge. I could see Judge Stephens saying to keep it to Yes or No answers assuming thats what the answer should involve. I suppose a question could ask Jodi to describe or expound on something. But just don't see how any sane person would want Jodi to do that.

[zeebee]

Not completely sure. I do know that there was a little bit of a misunderstanding that Jodi saw and took advantage of.

Basically Jodi was talking in the interview about two separate occasions. She brought up how shy Travis was the first time she tried to convince him to let her take pictures. He was shaving and they came out good and he used a pic on his myspace profile.
The second time was the day of the murder. She talks about it right after so Juan seems to have confused the shaving with that murder day. Make sense?

I don't think Juan was confused. I think that he thought when she was talking to Flores, that she was mixing the two stories together.

I think Juan wanted to establish that there was some truth to the Flores interview when ja said it was HER idea to take the shower pics because when Travis had shaved earlier in the day he was annoyed with her taking pics. This proves she lied when she said on the stand that it was Travis' idea to take pics of his new buff bod.

ETA - this also contradicts her testimony that he "invited" her upstairs after their downstairs fight so she could take the pics. She said in the Flores interview that Travis did NOT like his pic taken in the shower.

That's what I thought too, but I thought maybe there might have been more to it. I didn't understand why she was so resistant.

I'm not sure that Martinez can direct her when answering juror questions. I want to say that would be up to the judge. I could see Judge Stephens saying to keep it to Yes or No answers assuming thats what the answer should involve. I suppose a question could ask Jodi to describe or expound on something. But just don't see how any sane person would want Jodi to do that.

[zeebee]

Whoops, sorry M Joy, didn't mean to quote you on that last one.

[Rachael123]

Well I just finished watching the 2nd half of the trial from yesterday because I missed it.Juan set up the premeditation and I think she will get 1st degree murder.

[raisedbywolves]

-I am still so disturbed that Jodi dragged Travis to the shower, crammed him in the tiny stall, and washed him off. I think she did it because he was so completely covered in blood. Even after she washed him, he still had quite a bit of blood, but nowhere near what it would have been. She knew, even in her murder fury, that his body covered in so much blood would be worse for her if she were ever caught.

-Seeing his body crammed in the bottom of that shower in such an unnatural position really bothers me. She allowed him no dignity. A lot of murderers cover their victims naked bodies with a blanket. Especially if the murderer knew the victim. I wonder if she enjoyed the fact that Travis would be found in the nude, in an unflattering position?

-She did close his eyes. But, that was to her benefit. She couldn't stand seeing the "death stare" as she went about her clean up process.

I was in and out during the testimony yesterday. Did I imagine it or did she say that she did shower while standing over his body? Additionally, I didn't hear anything about the eyes...so she admitted closing them?

[Jinkasaurus]

Did anyone catch an interview with one of the women in the jail who Nancy Grace interviewed a while back, a woman who has been spending time with Jodi?

That woman stated that Jodi told HER that she (Jodi) had cut up the body and put the parts all around the county, but that she did this because she didn't want to get caught.

Now its possible that person is lying, but the way she said it did not come across like that to me. I found it fascinating that Jodi was telling even more lies while in Jail, and its scary to imagine that she would lie about something like that. I wish NG had followed up on it.

[bermstalker]

Thank you. Yes, I understand most all of that. The part that sticks out to me is this: "Whether to allow recross-examination is left to the trial court's "broad discretion."

Has Judge Sherry been allowing any recross? I can't remember for sure. I think I remember her excusing the witness without asking if the other lawyer wanted to recross.
Maybe she "leaves it to her discretion" on each witness?

I guess I could go rematch some of the trial on YouTube. Or, I can just wait and see.

Beth Karas (Insession) said that JM was pretty much done with Jodi. He can re ask some questions in certain situations-but Beth said probably doubtful he'll ask anything else.

For those that didn't know-today is the last day Insession will be on from 9-3 EST.
Starting Monday, it will only be on from 9-11 EST. They had to make room for more Lizard Lick Towing.

[cnoevil]

Hi,
just registered. I have questions.

when jodi was describing the linebacker pose,
she was very specific about him turning his head as he lunged.
seems odd that she would remember him turning his head.

then when she did the demo, she turned her head and bent forward.
each time she did it she turned her head exactly the same way.

I take it this is meant to show that the bullet would have entered and
exited in a way that matches the forensics. Is that right?

Did they mention that?

I know she admitted earlier that she made up the ninja story to "comport" with the forensic evidence.

[sheesh]

JODI ARIAS WANTS BABY WITH LESBO LOVER

ACCUSED killer Jodi Arias is so confident she?ll be acquitted of murdering her boyfriend that she?s already making big plans for her future.

...is telling pals that she has fallen in love with another female inmate at the Arizona prison where she?s locked up and that the two plan to marry when they?re both free.

What?s more, the twisted tempt*ress also plans to use one of her biggest supporters ? Prescott, Ariz., resident Bryan Carr ? to get her pregnant so she and her new wife can have a child together!...

?Jodi is confident that she will beat the first-degree murder rap and live happily ever after with her lesbian lover and a new baby,? an insider confirmed. ?She is completely smitten with this woman in jail, and they?re quietly planning a lavish wedding for when they get out.

I'm hearing the table settings at the reception will not include knives, at the request of Arias' partner.

[raisedbywolves]

Did anyone catch an interview with one of the women in the jail who Nancy Grace interviewed a while back, a woman who has been spending time with Jodi?

That woman stated that Jodi told HER that she (Jodi) had cut up the body and put the parts all around the county, but that she did this because she didn't want to get caught.

Now its possible that person is lying, but the way she said it did not come across like that to me. I found it fascinating that Jodi was telling even more lies while in Jail, and its scary to imagine that she would lie about something like that. I wish NG had followed up on it.

I don't know if I believe that this what she wanted to do, but I have always believed that Jodi had a different plan for what to do with the body. I think it was possible she was going to try to clean it up and take it and dump it in the desert or set it on fire in the desert. I think the absurdity of whatever plan she had became apparent as she tried to clean up all the blood in just the little bathroom and it wasn't happening. I think Travis running out of the bathroom was also never in her plan. He ruined everything by running out to where the carpet was and bleeding all over it.

This is the same person who seemed to think she could explain her DNA being at the scene, or cover everything over by dying her hair or turning her license plate over. I think she super underestimated how much cleaning it would take to hide a murder, and just how out of control the scene was going to get. I think she thought she had it all planned out and she was in control. In my mind that's score one for Travis for ruining her plan. I think if she could have kept him confined to just the bathroom she would have been able to clean everything better and would have had more time for deciding how to get rid of his body and also getting it down to her car. If that had happened his body might have never been found and she might have gotten away with it. By running down the hall he set up a crime scene that would lead to the story coming out and her DNA nailing her.

[cnoevil]

oh no, I thought that was just a smiley. didnt see the finger till after I posted.
How do I change that?

[M Joy]

Did anyone catch an interview with one of the women in the jail who Nancy Grace interviewed a while back, a woman who has been spending time with Jodi?

That woman stated that Jodi told HER that she (Jodi) had cut up the body and put the parts all around the county, but that she did this because she didn't want to get caught.

Now its possible that person is lying, but the way she said it did not come across like that to me. I found it fascinating that Jodi was telling even more lies while in Jail, and its scary to imagine that she would lie about something like that. I wish NG had followed up on it.

If that lady isn't confusing Jodi with someone else, I have a feeling Jodi WISHES she had cut Travis up and put his parts all over the place. I am sure there are lots of things she wishes she would have done. I'm sure she's thought a lot about that stuff over the past 4 & 1/2 years

[Harlette]

Does anyone have any thoughts on why JM made such a big deal about the shaving? Sorry if it was discussed at the time, I missed a lot of posts yeatserday.

i think its because she said when she was tired up and travis was down there - she made him stop because he hadn't shaved and the stubble hurt - but he was clean shaven - so that wasn't true, so most likely the whole being tied up thing wasn't true

[Harlette]

Beth Karas (Insession) said that JM was pretty much done with Jodi. He can re ask some questions in certain situations-but Beth said probably doubtful he'll ask anything else.

For those that didn't know-today is the last day Insession will be on from 9-3 EST.
Starting Monday, it will only be on from 9-11 EST. They had to make room for more Lizard Lick Towing.

did you read that they are cancelling "in session" and beth will be out of a job

[Cindy Simmons]

Has anyone thought she was initially planning on cutting the body up&that's why the throat slash was so bad? Like she started to decapitate him but then realized there was more blood than she anticipated? Also I don't think she meant to throw the camera in the washer. I know I have been in a hurry & threw trash in the washer & a clothing item in the trash. I imagine she intended to keep the camera so she could review what she had done to stroke her ego.

I think maybe she slit his throat after the fact....starting her very bad cover up thinking it would not look like a girl did that...

[bermstalker]

oh no, I thought that was just a smiley. didnt see the finger till after I posted.
How do I change that?

Welcome- Your finger mistake made me laugh. You can't edit your post unless you are a preemie member.

did you read that they are cancelling "in session" and beth will be out of a job

Oh really.Wow. Insession is still listed in next weeks guide, but it's listed from 9am until 11am.
hummmm, TruTV with a bunch of fake shows on. That makes a lot of sense.

[M Joy]

i think its because she said when she was tired up and travis was down there - she made him stop because he hadn't shaved and the stubble hurt - but he was clean shaven - so that wasn't true, so most likely the whole being tied up thing wasn't true

I'm confused by this part. Couldn't Travis have shaved between the sex stuff and the shower pics? I thought thats what JM was saying and was wondering why Jodi was denying that he shaved that day.