Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Beantown Bitch]

What movie is this from? fight club?

Nah, he's too young. I think it's primal fear.

[kimiknits]

Anyone else watching JVM?

sorry, extreme lurker here, but my head almost exploded just now........ did I just hear Bryan Carr say "a violent person has a history of violence and Jodi has no record of being violent" presumably as his way of proving she is innocent? I'm floored that JVM didn't point out immediately that Travis also has no history or record of violence......

[AnnieBelle]

How does one take photographs right in front of someone without being seen? Maybe she was like that guy who paid a wizard to make him invisible to rob a bank..

Very doable with a good quality camera, a zoom lens, and a sneaky person pushing the buttons. It's pretty well known that Jodi surprised Travis MANY times, while he was otherwise occupied. Here, he looks pretty occupied with enjoying his shower....with his eyes closed.

[Jinkasaurus]

I didn't know there were breeds of compulsive liars, but yes, that is what they are. People who like to lie to make themselves and their life look good. I get what you're trying to say though.



Technically aren't they all un-aired? I've seen the clips today on Youtube before, though.

What I meant was clips that the producers had made, but that never made it into the version that was aired on TV a couple of years ago....

[helloagain]

What movie is this from? fight club?

Primal Fear

[taylorerenee]

I can't wait to c theese pics on dr drew! ...I'm still trying my dammedest to find the autopsy pic wit his eyes open!

[Mousy]

I heard that they showed un-aired clips from the 48 Hours episode in court today - can anyone vouch for that?

(I just got home from work, so wanting to scroll to those parts of her testimony)

https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis
This site usually has the videos up in a decent amount of time. As well as the Alexander Family, people from Pre Paid Legal, and some friends of the family. I trust this source.

[Beantown Bitch]

Sorry twisted, i should have also added it's about an altar boy is accused of murdering a catholic priest.

[Jem]

Very doable with a good quality camera, a zoom lens, and a sneaky person pushing the buttons. It's pretty well known that Jodi surprised Travis MANY times, while he was otherwise occupied. Here, he looks pretty occupied with enjoying his shower....with his eyes closed.

I don't want to keep arguing about the shower pics but Justice put it perfectly a few pages back. He was posing in the shower, you can tell from the posey pictures. There were no rags or soap in there with him at this point. Just because people interpret the last picture as a look of surprise or whatever - doesn't mean she jumped out with a knife or gun in hand. People look surprised in pictures all the time. But that's fine, you have your theory and I have mine. I just don't think time allows, from the pose pictures to the death, for her to pretend to leave.

[Ian 1]

i think cuz she said she only carries money for emergencies - instead yet she is using to buy gas in arizona thinking it can't be traced back to her, cuz she used her credit card later, so they were still working

Yeah! It could be that the allegation is she used cash to conceal her gas purchases to get to Mesa. But, then again, why did Martinez think it necessary to dwell on the fact that she was out of cash by the time she got to Travis's house and therefore, would have had absolutely no cash to complete the trip to Salt Lake and then home?

[*crickets*]

there were 2 rental car agencies in yreka but she went 100 miles to redding to rent instead - so no one who see her cuz yreka only has 7k residents

Will someone please explain to me why she went 100 miles from home to rent the car? Why would she want to avoid someone recognizing her at the car rental place in Yreka? She wasn't keeping the fact that she was going on a road trip a secret, just the part about going to AZ, so what was the point?

[taylorerenee]

Yes it is primal fear....... travis knew jodi was their taking pics cuz the shower door was open for the pics.

[Mousy]

Will someone please explain to me why she went 100 miles from home to rent the car? Why would she want to avoid someone recognizing her at the car rental place in Yreka? She wasn't keeping the fact that she was going on a road trip a secret, just the part about going to AZ, so what was the point?

Don't leave out the fact she rented for 'local use.'

[Ron_NYC]

Who is this?

It's edward norton.

Spoiler Alert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_Fear_(film)

The movie is from 1996, but I'd still feel bad for ruining it. It was relevant to a previous post, but seeing as how quickly this thread moves, it's probably 10 pages back now.

[taylorerenee]

I think ur right about the felony murder revelation!

[Jinkasaurus]

I remain committed to this theory about the shower pics.

He thought she left when he got in the shower. At some point into his shower, he realizes she is there - the one where he looks startled- and is annoyed by her. She finally opens the shower door, continuing to take pics of him, he is annoyed (final face pic in shower). He gets out of shower, expresses his annoyance with her, and grabs a towel. As he is towel-drying his hair, which would mean both arms are up, and chest is exposed, Jodi stabs him in the chest with a knife. This starts the fight, and she drops the camera.

To me, this is the only way you can explain a time in the entire bathroom sequence that Travis would be standing, facing her, and exposing his chest to her. The stab wounds in his chest came from a slightly lower angle, so she was not standing above him when she stabbed him there. Once she began her attack, there is no way he would allow his chest to be exposed like that, so I do believe that was the first wound.

[twisted-texan]

Yeah! It could be that the allegation is she used cash to conceal her gas purchases to get to Mesa. But, then again, why did Martinez think it necessary to dwell on the fact that she was out of cash by the time she got to Travis's house and therefore, would have had absolutely no cash to complete the trip to Salt Lake and then home?

I think he was trying to prove that she was lying about having so little cash because she had to have more than she stated in order to buy gas in Arizona since there were no debit charges??

[Twinmutha]

Just got to the part where JM said the word vaginal crevices with a capital P!!!! Oh my!!!

[Ian 1]

I don't want to keep arguing about the shower pics but Justice put it perfectly a few pages back. He was posing in the shower, you can tell from the posey pictures. There were no rags or soap in there with him at this point. Just because people interpret the last picture as a look of surprise or whatever - doesn't mean she jumped out with a knife in hand. People look surprised in pictures all the time. But that's fine, you have your theory and I have mine. I just don't think time allows, from the pose pictures to the death, for her to pretend to leave.

Why don't we settle this. I think it is safe to assume that Travis was aware that Jodi was taking the pictures. The question is, was he consenting. I think not. I think Jodi just started doing it like she used to do with Darryl Brewer in Palm Desert; playing one of her Jodi games to try to keep the energy going 'cause she Travis wanted her to get out of there. That full face picture looks to me that Travis was annoyed. I don't put it past him to just let her go on for a while, ignoring her, hoping Jodi would just get out of there and finally, when told her to stop, she started the killing.

[ImBatman!]

sorry, extreme lurker here, but my head almost exploded just now........ did I just hear Bryan Carr say "a violent person has a history of violence and Jodi has no record of being violent" presumably as his way of proving she is innocent? I'm floored that JVM didn't point out immediately that Travis also has no history or record of violence......

Welcome to the crazy!!

[twisted-texan]

Spoiler Alert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_Fear_(film)

The movie is from 1996, but I'd still feel bad for ruining it. It was relevant to a previous post, but seeing as how quickly this thread moves, it's probably 10 pages back now.

Thanks Ron, I will check it out!

[AnnieBelle]

I don't want to keep arguing about the shower pics but Justice put it perfectly a few pages back. He was posing in the shower, you can tell from the posey pictures. There were no rags or soap in there with him at this point. Just because people interpret the last picture as a look of surprise or whatever - doesn't mean she jumped out with a knife or gun in hand. People look surprised in pictures all the time. But that's fine, you have your theory and I have mine. I just don't think time allows, from the pose pictures to the death, for her to pretend to leave.

I'm going on the theory that the "posed" photos were the ones taken of their sexual encounter, which are time stamped about 1:30 in the afternoon. The next set of photos are the ones of Travis, taking his shower. How does anyone know this "photo session" was posed? Because Jodi says so?? Even Martinez doesn't believe Travis was aware that Jodi was creeping outside his shower, taking those pics. That final set of photos were taken a few hours after the first session of the two of them in bed. That is the gap of time I am referring to. That is plenty of time for her to have "left" and snuck back in. And, another huge point.....if he WAS aware of her being there, and a few minutes after that "surprised" shot of him, he is bloodied and being dragged across the tile....why didn't he see the gun or knife she held whilst taking these pics? I would think he would have noticed those, too....if he was posing for the camera?

[Jem]

Why don't we settle this. I think it is safe to assume that Travis was aware that Jodi was taking the pictures. The question is, was he consenting. I think not. I think Jodi just started doing it like she used to do with Darryl Brewer in Palm Desert; playing one of her Jodi games to try to keep the energy going 'cause she Travis wanted her to get out of there. That full face picture looks to me that Travis was annoyed. I don't put it past him to just let her go on for a while, ignoring her, hoping Jodi would just get out of there and finally, when told her to stop, she started the killing.

I'll agree that your theory sounds plausible. But, I don't agree to settle on something that noone, apart from Jodi, knows is fact. Anything could have gone down in that bathroom. Whether or not he was consenting, he was still aware she was there. I still stand by the fact he wanted, or obliged, to the pose pictures. Otherwise he wouldn't be posing with his back turned, hands crossed against his chest etc.

[rachy]

sure you were joking jodi.

every time i hear this song i think of jodi i don't know why tho

And I’ll make that bitch
scream, and shout, and let it
all out
I’ll put it in her backyard like
a fuckin’ doghouse

[tiggrrl72077]

Spoiler Alert: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_Fear_(film)

The movie is from 1996, but I'd still feel bad for ruining it. It was relevant to a previous post, but seeing as how quickly this thread moves, it's probably 10 pages back now.

Thanks Ron!!it sounds like an interesting movie I think I'm gonna have to watch it one of these days