Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Beantown Bitch]

This is pretty cool :

Wow, trippy.

[Ian 1]

Ian, someone posted way back on the thread that pictures on her myspace indicated they had already taken that trip, she left this message on his VM after she killed him I believe. Here is a link of a picture on her myspace at Othello! There is also a photo of Crater Lake in the same series. for a high school drop out, she is rather well rounded, even though it is phoney. she seems articulate and not afraid of the camera, even though people have said she was uncomfortable in crowds.
http://www.myspace.com/jodiarias/pho...%3A25521553%7D

Sorry I didn't comment on Jodi Arias' My Space picture. Yeah, there she is with a black individual, probably a friend, boyfriend or maybe just someone in the crowd at a performance of Othello. Nothing there that says he was the actor that played Othello. The full title of Shakespeare's Play is, "Othello, the Moor of Venice." I'm not gonna bore you with any more history. This photo is just another set-piece in the melodrama of the life of Jodi Ann Arias. How clever of her to pose for a photo with a black man (looks like a Moor) at a performance of a Shakespearean Play where the Tragic Hero is a Moor. How sophisticated of her! What perception! Now I know why she didn't make it out of Grade 11. She was convinced that she was smarter than anyone else. I give her an F-.

Yech

That's enough for sure!

[animosity]

Sorry I didn't comment on Jodi Arias' My Space picture. Yeah, there she is with a black individual, probably a friend, boyfriend or maybe just someone in the crowd at a performance of Othello. Nothing there that says he was the actor that played Othello. The full title of Shakespeare's Play is, "Othello, the Moor of Venice." I'm not gonna bore you with any more history. This photo is just another set-piece in the melodrama of the life of Jodi Ann Arias. How clever of her to pose for a photo with a black man (looks like a Moor) at a performance of a Shakespearean Play where the Tragic Hero is a Moor. How sophisticated of her! What perception! Now I know why she didn't make it out of Grade 11. She was convinced that she was smarter than anyone else. I give her an F-.

Yech

That's enough for sure!

yeah, it says 'peter makes a great othello'.

[Beantown Bitch]

[QUOTE=raisedbywolves;3332020]

On top of not being able to get the shower door closed, I think his body was blocking the drain and caused all the water to overflow back into the bathroom. I think that's why there was so much bloody water because it was washing right off his super bloody body, into the bottom of the shower and then overflowing onto the bathroom floor.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to raisedbywolves again. you rock.

[Msmichie]

Sorry I didn't comment on Jodi Arias' My Space picture. Yeah, there she is with a black individual, probably a friend, boyfriend or maybe just someone in the crowd at a performance of Othello. Nothing there that says he was the actor that played Othello. The full title of Shakespeare's Play is, "Othello, the Moor of Venice." I'm not gonna bore you with any more history. This photo is just another set-piece in the melodrama of the life of Jodi Ann Arias. How clever of her to pose for a photo with a black man (looks like a Moor) at a performance of a Shakespearean Play where the Tragic Hero is a Moor. How sophisticated of her! What perception! Now I know why she didn't make it out of Grade 11. She was convinced that she was smarter than anyone else. I give her an F-.



Yech



That's enough for sure!

I am not even going to pretend that I understand all of what you are saying in the couple of posts you have posted regarding Jodi and the Othello performance, (I know I am not smart enough), however, what I think I am getting from you is that she wanted her perception to be that of someone who is educated, smart, traveled and worth more than her mere 11th grade education or her waitress jobs. (not that being a waitress isn't a noble job.. I could never do it.) Is this what you are trying to point out? Forgive my ignorance, I understood what you were saying in the first couple of posts, but I am lost on this one. (Gosh, I feel so stupid for asking! LOL)

[bryanwasdrunk]

This is pretty cool :

Who has Dr. Kevin Horn's testimony? (would that be day 4?????)

I don't think their graphic makes perfect sense but it's close.
One of her feet would be back, stepping on the shutter release of the camera.
Knife would be stabbed through his neck on the left, and she would be pulling up on the knife probably using both hands, cutting forward through his throat and lifting his head.

[Jinkasaurus]

Who has Dr. Kevin Horn's testimony? (would that be day 4?????)

I don't think their graphic makes perfect sense but it's close.
One of her feet would be back, stepping on the shutter release of the camera.
Knife would be stabbed through his neck on the left, and she would be pulling up on the knife probably using both hands, cutting forward through his throat and lifting his head.

The camera was upside down, so there was no need for her foot to step on the shutter release. It could have just been kicked across the floor in their struggle (which lasted apprx 1 minute in the bathroom area), landed upside down and then snapped this one moment of the brutal attack.

The video was trying to demonstrate where the bodies were in relation to the camera at one single moment, not through the entire attack.

[Msmichie]

Let's put this myth to bed for good; I am 5'6" 118 pounds, fairly fit, so about Hodi's size, only much older. I convinced my 170 pound husband to lie limp on the floor to see if I could drag him by holding him under his arms. guess what? I could!!! It was not super easy for me (we did not wet the floor), but take off 20 yrs. and get get my adrenaline going, on a slippery floor, no problem doing what she did whatsoever. And if she had on her Puma's, she had some traction, then could remove them before walking out, thus no bloody footprints.

I also believe she could have been taking the photos without him being aware. None of those pictures would serve the purpose of showing how fit he was; they could have done that with pants on, smiling downstairs. She was just getting her shutterbug freak on. I have entered and exited the bathroom without my husband knowing, sometimes he is deep in thought in the shower, like Travis looked to be. And he even puts his arms up on the wall.

I think Hodi had packed up and left and came back with her purse and weapons. Otherwise some of her stuff would have been left there. I remember her saying her luggage was already in the car. I doubt the hole rope thing unless she brought it and the knife as a way to have the knife handy. If that's the case, she would have moved the rope to where she could easily take it.

If anyone has the page or link for Dr. Drew's juror Katie's notes on WS i would appreciate it. I broke my rule of keeping track. I was shocked to learn her sister was the one murdered by those two Germans a few years ago. She should post here, that site is too hard to navigate.

I think the same as you. I can totally see this scenario as you have written it. I also know that I am not super human, nor am I a weakling and when I am pissed off I know I can move things that I should not be able to move. The added benefit Jodi had with Travis being wet from his shower, (and who knows if he was also soapy), would have made him much easier prey to Jodi. All she had to do was get the drop on him (and if he was stabbed in the chest first, the one that hit the artery), then he was probably a bit in shock and then stumbling towards the sink and spitting up blood, which is where I think she got him in the back and head and something woke him from the shock for him to fight back. To me at this point with her smug little snark going on, it doesn't matter to me anymore how she was able to do this.. it's too obvious that she did. She doesn't even have enough respect for Travis to call him Travis, instead she calls him "it" and "Alexander." Jodi only cares for Jodi. She is a vile human being who should be locked up for the rest of her life so she can never do damage or kill another human being.

I don't get the part of her being hidden.He had to know the shower door was open.

I don't think it was in all of the pictures.. at least for sure not until the one at the 27 mark.

I know in other trials (OJ comes to mind) the court reporter would move her/hia machine over toward the bench where she/he could hear. I don't recall seeing that happen in this case however, so good question. I'm pretty sure those side bar discussions are part of official court transcripts. Are all full transcripts available to the public/media following the conclusion of cases?

I thought I saw one of the court reporters put an ear plug thing into their ear. I wonder if the mics are on for him to catch all that is being said in the side bars. He appears to be typing when they pan around the room. Just my thoughts anyway.

This is pretty cool :

This is pretty cool and also scary as shit. Imagine being Travis.. imagine he's not dead yet.. imagine being conscious and seeing her standing over you... and then that knife cutting into your neck.. he had to have felt the first part of that knife slicing his throat. Since she cut him almost through to decapitation he had to have felt some of it. I can't imagine the fear and pain this poor man went through.

It still makes me sick watching Jodi and her family act like they are at a concert instead of at a murder trial for a man who was so viciously killed by their own loved one. I don't care that they support her..I would hope if I did something as horrible as Jodi did that my family would support me, even if they thought I was a POS...but to act like this is nothing more than a concert is so sickening and disgusting. They have no compassion, no honor, no respect, and it makes me sick to watch them.

[Beantown Bitch]

oops, meant to quote rbw there....oops, sorry shahoolie.

[bryanwasdrunk]

The camera was upside down, so there was no need for her foot to step on the shutter release. It could have just been kicked across the floor in their struggle (which lasted apprx 1 minute in the bathroom area), landed upside down and then snapped this one moment of the brutal attack.

The video was trying to demonstrate where the bodies were in relation to the camera at one single moment, not through the entire attack.

I remember some kind of demonstration with an upside down camera taking a picture in the CIC happening easily, but not by simply dropping it, but I could be wrong and would have to go back through early testimony.

The video had a subtitle that said "Is this the photo when she cut his neck?" I think it might be, but not in the way they have jodi holding the knife. It did make me think, though, that they may be partially right and together with Dr. Horn's description of how the throat slash was made we know why his head is lifted in that picture.

I wasn't slamming the find at all. It's a great find! I think it's off a little on some of the forensic evidence, but with some adjustment you can actually visualize what's going on outside the camera frame.

I'm not sure why you thought that I thought this was through the entire attack, again I'm talking about the throat slash.

[Poppycock]

Anybody know who's the "hottie-biscotti" (lol) in the front row? Dayummmmm....

Colin Firth or Christain Bale?

I keep thinking about this but after she "scammed" him and betrayed him and hurt him like no one else. Plus he had already told her to go away and leave him alone, why oh why did he let her into his home and have sex with her that day?! I just can't get past that. I assumed that the only reason was that he cared about her to an extent but maybe it was purely that she talked him into a final time for old times sake?

After stealing his journal (despicable) and slashing his tires twice and Lisa's once, how could he want her at all?

That's what I was thinking.
I still think the only photo Travis knew about was the 5:29 one. It's the only well-lit one.

The pic right before the lit one at 5:29:12 i think, where he's looking at the camera, looks like the exact same pic without flash. The one of his legs looks accidental, like the attack has begun.

Will someone please think on this? Where did Jodi Arias park the rental car she drove to Travis's house? Jodi arrived at approximately 4:00 a.m. on June 4, 2008. She stayed until approximately 6:30 p.m. That's about sixteen hours. During that time, one of Travis's roommates came and went at least once and maybe twice. Yet I've never seen any mention of him having seen the rental car in the driveway where Jodi Arias says she always parked on previous occasions. The only other reference to where Jodi parked while at Travis's house is in her story of having parked the U-Haul truck and dolly around the curve down the street away from Travis's house where the pavement widens just before she hauled her ass back to her bolt hole in grandma and grandpa's house in Yreka. Could it be that when Jodi Arias arrived at 4 a.m. on June 4, she deliberately parked the rental car down there so that it would not be noted that Travis had a visitor? If so, that seems very calculated and premeditated. I've also been thinking on the specific sequence of her departure after the murder. How would anyone of you write/block that scene for filming? Did Jodi Arias leave twice? Once to retrieve her car? Then load it up! Then return (as she did in April when she hauled ass out of Mesa to return to her bolt-hole in grandma and grandpa's house in Yreka?) Was Travis already in the shower by this time, thinking she had finally left? Did Jodi Arias decide to try one more time to win him over and pick up Travis's camera (along with the weapons) to surprise him in the shower with the contrived photography B.S? Did Travis see her and flip her the bird once again, as he had when she moved away in April 2008? Did that trigger her rage and cause her to start stabbing and/or shooting? Did she then run out of the house in wet and bloodied clothing and hit the road? She has testified her stuff, particularly her camera, was already in her car when the photo session started and that's why she used Travis's. How did she get down to the laundry room and out of the house in wet clothing without leaving a noticeable trail?

In regards to Jodi's bloodstained and wet clothing after the attack, it appears to me that she bundled it up and threw it into the car when she fled and that accounts for the pink 'Kool Aid' stains on the front passenger and rear seats that the rental company had to clean after the car was returned. No?

Twenty-four hours 'till testimony resumes! C'mon you sleuths. Use some of the time to think about this.

Good Q, do the roommates recall a car? (14 hour visit) I think she may have pulled back into the driveway to pack and easily getaway. She had on dark clothes, i think she had her driver's seat covered with a tarp and threw other bloody stuff on the seats and floors. Blood would not show on the dark clothes if someone saw her. If only a neighbor had seen something!

[QUOTE=wasthinking;3331984]

iirc Heather Connor testified the box was in the bathroom closet

here is Juan's exhibit

linen closet, not clothes closet.

I am thinking it is very likely she did stay with Travis late 1/21. Something looks odd with big gap from 1/21 to 1/22 which starts out with Jodi saying 'how long'. Then dialog about she will need a ride after work. Travis asking her if she used his phone THIS MORNING so it appears she was at his house sometime that morning if not from the night before.
So why does she need a ride? Is she actually telling the truth for once, that he sometimes took her to work? I don't know, something not fitting in with what Juan has presented on this one so far.

1/21/08-9:11pm- Travis says: Alright get it tomorrow then.
1/21/08-9:16pm- Jodi says: Can you talk right now?
1/21/08-9:17pm- Travis says: Not right now


1/22/08-11:33am- Jodi says: How long?
1/22/08-11:50am- Travis says: Did you use my phone this morning without asking?
1/22/08-11:52am- Jodi says: I only used it after I asked u in the office. Why?
1/22/08-12:03:19pm- Jodi says: Why?
1/22/08-12:03:42pm- Travis says: Nothing
1/22/08-12:20pm- Jodi says: Did you make the deposit?
1/22/08-12:22pm- Travis says: Yes
1/22/08-12:25pm- Jodi says: Thank you I?ll make it up to you soon.
1/22/08-3:36pm- Jodi says: I?m going to need a ride! I?m off at 4pm. Txt me.
1/22/08-4:04pm- Jodi says: Scratch that. Their keeping me here until 5pm!=( Can u pick me up then? The lunch offer from my v-mail still stands.
1/22/08-4:08pm- Travis says: sure
1/22/08-4:37pm- Jodi says: I?m almost off! Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the

which would mean she went over after vomiting because of pedo scene, or with her migraine headache. or went by in the morning. maybe she replied to a text from a girl.

Its here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=199553

TU!! This is a different Katie than the Dr. Drew juror. My understanding is, this is the one whose sister was murdered by the two Germans.

I don't get the part of her being hidden.He had to know the shower door was open.

Door is closed until the leg shot. I think that is when she opened it to attack.

[Jinkasaurus]

I posted that video as a 3-D graphic representation of where the bodies were in relation to each other and the camera in that one photo shot. I think it does a good job of clarifying that photo for people who have had trouble visualizing what is going on in it.

The person who made that video may have also been hypothesizing as to where/how he/she thinks the neck cutting took place, but I wasn't paying attention to that aspect of the video at all, since I don't think anyone except Jodi knows exactly where in the sequence of her murderous attack she did that to him.

[Jem]

I don't think that picture is a picture of her cutting his neck. To me it looks like that's already occured and he is lifted that way because she's dragging him backwards.

[Rockabillychick]

I actually think that the near decapitation (this was way more than a cut throat) was already done and he was in the process of being dragged when the picture was taken. I think that that wound was inflicted on the carpet just because of the volume of blood that was on it.

[Shahoolie11]

Before anyone kicks me off this page for replying to my own post, I'm gonna stretch it a bit. It's Sunday, so I'm not cutting into the real action of the trial.

It's just because I am who I am, and remember some of what I've learned and written about in my earlier life, Jodi Ann Arias's casual reference to her and Travis Alexander's so-called planned tour in May 2008, "and maybe catch a Shakespearean Play"--Othello she said--immediately caught my ear. To me, it revealed a lot more about her character, or more certainly, lack of character, than all the other stuff she babbles on about. Now! Othello is Drama in it's highest form. A Tragedy! The little semantic game Jodi Arias plays in throwing out stuff like that, is not so much intended to disclose to others that she has a genuine interest in works of great dramatic art, but to impress upon others the high cultural plain upon which her mind resides, a level that sets her apart from other lesser beings. It validates her failed miserable existence, and justifies her abominable behavior towards others. Total, phony, sybaritic, bullshit! Just like the self-serving description 'JA Fine Photographic Art' she applies to her primitive picture-taking! Jodi Arias wasn't even an 'effen good waitress--and that's an honorable occupation.


Lemme' go on. When we go to the Theatre, or to the movies, or listen to music, or see a great painting or photograph, we experience it 'viscerally'--in our gut, if you will. It's an 'irrational' experience. That's what's supposed to happen. We go through life 'feeling' things as much or more than we go through life 'thinking' things. It's only later on that we think about it and question why it affected us the way it did and we start to rationally/intellectually analyze the elements of the work that gave us the experience. We don't 'think' a beautiful sunrise, we 'feel' it and after do we start to think about the beauty in the world. We all do it--consciously or unconsciously, but we don't do it while we are caught up in the experience--watching, looking, or listening.

To continue! Great Drama is didactic. It teaches us something (lots of stuff.) That's why it's great. The greatest teaches us about ourselves. The complex human traits and emotions that reside within us are revealed through the characters of the play and demonstrate how we relate to our world and how we can influence our world when we express them. Anger! Fear! Rage! Jealousy! Love! etc. The things we 'feel--not 'think--and we feel them by identifying with and reacting to the characters in the Drama.

Back to Othello. Among the themes are, Jealousy, Greed, Honor, etc. and we see them acted out through the characters on stage and bringing chaos and death to a world of order and love. That's some of what Othello teaches and we learn by identifying with and reacting to the characters, (fear, pity, horror, despair,) and later thinking about what brought it all about.

I can picture Jodi Ann Arias sitting in that audience with Travis watching Othello. Off all the people in that theater, immersed in the experience of the drama, Jodi Arias is one who, for sure, would not get it. Travis Alexander would get it. I am certain he would be watching the play unfold and trying to grasp what is happening. Jodi Ann Arias would be watching herself, seated in the audience, having a fine 'artistic' experience, with Travis at her side--one that she could babble about later--but otherwise she wouldn't have a clue. To that sorry, ignorant excuse for a human being, nothing is genuine. Everything is contrived, Everything is to be used for some corrupt purpose--even the lives of others.

Now, ask me what I really think.

THAT was amazing Ian 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you for writing what we all think!
She is a pathetic excuse for our species. If an alien being wanted to learn about humans, keep them the fuck away from her. HORRIBLE representation of what we are, how we work, think, feel and act. She is disgusting, for an infinite number of reasons. The ONLY feeling that monster will ever have, is a survival mode for her own gross existence. She is in love with herself, and only herself. I appreciate your post, more than you know!!

[Jinkasaurus]

I don't think that picture is a picture of her cutting his neck. To me it looks like that's already occured and he is lifted that way because she's dragging him backwards.

I agree.

[Jinkasaurus]

I actually think that the near decapitation (this was way more than a cut throat) was already done and he was in the process of being dragged when the picture was taken. I think that that wound was inflicted on the carpet just because of the volume of blood that was on it.

I tend to agree.

[Shahoolie11]

I don't get the part of her being hidden.He had to know the shower door was open.

I agree Rachael123....because:
1.) Like you said, the shower door is open, there is no reason anyone would take a full shower in a stall withthe glass door open.
2.) Take a look at the very first picture snapped, his fingers and hands are interlocked, straight back, staring straight ahead, with eyes open, and almost a look of annoyance (get this over with) on his face. That was one of the few photos that has a flash. maybe if he was turned away or eyes closed tightly for the whole thing, he may not notice a flash, but out of his peripheral vision, he most definitely would've seen the flash in Photo # 1.

My man has the same exact camera as Travis had, and we tested it out, I got in the shower stall, with the door open, and had him taking photos with the flash and without, and even with my back turned, I could here the shutter clicking/snapping with each photo taken, even over the sound of the water splashing in my ears and on my head.

Soooo....IMHO, while the photoshoot may have been for a different motivation for her at the time, the photoshoot itself, was no secret. Maybe he just went along with it since it was on HIS camera and he could delete them after she left...and he wanted to appease her wishes to get her the fuck out of his house already!!!

[Shahoolie11]

This is pretty cool :

OMG.....I always just had the image in my head of her stabbing him down the hall as he crawled to the end, and she straddled his back, pulled his head back and slit.
This 3D representation seems even MORE likely!! *shiver.....*

[Shahoolie11]

oops, meant to quote rbw there....oops, sorry shahoolie.

I figured, then I gave you some REP just for being awesome, and for your original signature!!!

[Shahoolie11]

[QUOTE=Poppycock;3332133]Colin Firth or Christain Bale?



After stealing his journal (despicable) and slashing his tires twice and Lisa's once, how could he want her at all?



The pic right before the lit one at 5:29:12 i think, where he's looking at the camera, looks like the exact same pic without flash. The one of his legs looks accidental, like the attack has begun.



Good Q, do the roommates recall a car? (14 hour visit) I think she may have pulled back into the driveway to pack and easily getaway. She had on dark clothes, i think she had her driver's seat covered with a tarp and threw other bloody stuff on the seats and floors. Blood would not show on the dark clothes if someone saw her. If only a neighbor had seen something!

linen closet, not clothes closet.



which would mean she went over after vomiting because of pedo scene, or with her migraine headache. or went by in the morning. maybe she replied to a text from a girl.





TU!! This is a different Katie than the Dr. Drew juror. My understanding is, this is the one whose sister was murdered by the two Germans.




Door is closed until the leg shot. I think that is when she opened it to attack.

I thought the glossy "glare" look was because the photos that are shown in this forum, are the actual photos presented during trial - meaning, the photograph itself, caught the light from the court room while under the projection screen, causing it to look like a glare from glass or something...I could be mistaken.

[dianalyn]

Here is the story Juan is hammering her about and we'll see again on Monday. She had pulled this NEW BS out of her butt Day 20 on her last day rambling under Nurmi's lead.
[long drawn out explanation of August 2007 incident that Jodi is mentioning for the first time ever]


Nurmi: interrupts: what do you mean, lets talk about that, what do you mean this summer? What incident were you referring to?

Jodi: Um, there was an incident where he was really upset, [grunting! pause] you mean the whole incident?

Nurmi:: ya, what happened?
[Jodi acting up poorly, shaking head, breathing, drink water aka inventing on the fly]
The previous summer August 2007 I got hired at PaiChang{sp} to work and they needed my social securtiy card, which I didn't keep in my purse, because it, for security reasons, it was packed away and I was looking everywhere for it, couldn't find it, so I assumed it was in one of the boxes that were, that were in Travis' garage. So I called him, I needed the card for the next day for work, after I'd been looking for it,
I wanted to come over and look for it there,
he said sure, it was a brief phone call it was about 11 o'clock at night and he sounded sleepy so I thought maybe he was sleeping.
I came over, um, I went into the side of course, to go into the garage, to look for the um, box, but, this time instead of going into the garage, the door was locked which was unusual because its almost always open. So I think no big deal I started walking around the back of the house toward the sliding glass door which is never locked, because he had installed the doggie door
Um, so the sliding glass door butts up to it but doesn't lock.

so as I was walking around the house the blinds to the living room were open and I could see this blue glow ca- coming out of the window from the TV and as I was walking toward the glass and I glanced in and I noticed two people making out on the couch and I thought for a second because I thought that was ackward. and I assumed it was one of his room mates so I thought how would I, how would I handle that you know, I thought maybe Ill just walk in real quick and say sorry, and just, cause I would, I would have to walk passed them to get to the garage, cause it was on the couch, they were on the couch, so I decided I would do that and then as I was,
as I was going toward the um, the glass she stood up and she rehooked her bra and the guy stood up wiping his mouth and I saw it was Travis.

so we weren't together at this point and I knew that we were, there were other people that he was seeing or that I was maybe seeing
and but it kinda still hurt so I ran I didn't go to the um, I didn't go to the social security card, I just left. and I went home, it was too late to call any body really, so I just waited until the next day to call my sister, my little sister but she wasn't home she lived with my parents at that time, my Dad answered and I told him what happened because he was somebody to talk to, I didnt confide in him often, and he was asking me why I was crying and so I just told him what happened UM
and so at that point I decided I'm just going to go over and ask him if he's dating some one that way I can move on or something
So I went over to his house, and we were, I went into the house and he was in the um ah the laundry room, stenciling stripes down the walls, getting ready to paint them, and I hopped up on the washing machine and sat there and he came down the ladder and he gave me a kiss and I said, I said it flat out if you are dating someone its okay you can tell me and I told him based on what he has said about what he had said about Deanna in the past I said I won't freak out the way Deanna does. Cause he had said that about her.
And he just thought that was a strange question and he said why are you asking me
OBJECTION sustained

Nurmi:: how does, lets, how does this, w/o saying what he said, you you mentioned this correlated to the incident on June 4th, were you IN the upstairs area with Travis after this argument about seeing him with this other girl.

Jodi: ya he just let out a real frustrated scream, and he walked out of the laundry room and pounded the wall real hard, with his palm, I mean not the wall the door frame, in the laundry room and just went upstairs and I sat there kind of stunned, Um I'd only seen his temper a few times at that point and I heard this thud banging rhythmic like over and over and over, it was dull and like something was hitting over and over and over. So I jumped off the washing machine to see what it was, he was the only one home so I went upstairs went into the bedrooom I, it was getting louder as I got toward the bedroom and then I turned to look down the hallway and he's banging his head repeatedly on the linen door closet and I, it was awful to watch him to that and I walked up to him sort of tentatively because he looked unstable and he was mumbling something under his breath and he kept saying
OBJECTION sustained

Nurmi:: okay just, what, hap I mean you mentioned um, did you have to run away from him that day?

Jodi: Um I finally said his name to get his attention and he screamed what really loud and he spun and looked at me like a mad man, and it freaked me out so I ran down the hall thinking I'd just get out of the bedroom but he caught me right as I reached the threshold of the bedroom I couldn't reach the carpet he caught my wrists and pulled me back and I was freaking out and he calmed down and he explained to me that she was just a girl that he met in Phoenix and they probably wouldnt see each other again.

Nurmi:: Okay moving back to June 4th, before we continue on the story I want to get, talk to you about a couple of exhibits, the first being 160, you see that can you look at that,

I wondered at the time she testified to this how in the world did she think it helped her? This showed him banging his own head against the wall, the only one he was doing any "harm" to was himself, he let out a scream of frustration and walked away from her is what it sounds like.

[Shahoolie11]

Sorry, the earlier shower photos didn't show his actual FACE on Photo # 1 - This is face I'm talking about. Eyes open, looks annoyed...or looks like he KNOWS there's some crazy shit about to go down. A sigh of realization. Maybe she already had a weapon in her hand at the very start, and he's tbinking, "I knew if I didn't cut this off....something like this would happen to me! FUCK!!"

I know Travis was partial to making arrogant or smug faces in his photos, but this face, is an "Oh shit" face to me:

[TupeloHoney]

I don't think that picture is a picture of her cutting his neck. To me it looks like that's already occured and he is lifted that way because she's dragging him backwards.

I actually think that the near decapitation (this was way more than a cut throat) was already done and he was in the process of being dragged when the picture was taken. I think that that wound was inflicted on the carpet just because of the volume of blood that was on it.

I also agree. I think she would have had a hard time inflicting that brutal neck wound with him in that position. I think it's more likely he was face-down on the floor or on his knees trying to get up when she cut his throat. I'm no physics genius, but I think the weight of his body while facing down helped devil woman nearly decapitate him.

[marshmallow]

simpsons did it! simpsons did it! no wait! i'm wrong... it was south park.

also, i'm beginning to think i'm the only woman on earth who doesn't gain superhuman strength and speed when being attacked or enraged. does that mean there's something wrong with me?

you win!
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