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    Quote Originally Posted by Schpadoinkle View Post
    You're right, I kinda shot myself in the foot after draping that big blanket statement over my head. I guess you can't make sense outta NUTS.
    I think a few of those fit Jodi. You're right, you can't make sense out of nuts.
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    Slashed tires

    It takes a very sharp knife to slah a tire. What happened to that knife?

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    Okay everyone, I removed my sig because i kept getting smited for it. Sorry some of you didn't like it..however, i find it pretty sad and strange you complain and smite people about a sig on a forum but whatever floats your boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    It takes a very sharp knife to slah a tire. What happened to that knife?
    Nah, not really but yes, we would all like to know where the knife went.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown Bitch View Post
    Okay everyone, I removed my sig because i kept getting smited for it. Sorry some of you didn't like it..however, i find it pretty sad and strange you complain and smite people about a sig on a forum but whatever floats your boat.
    What was your signature? I don't remember ever really looking at it. Do you know who smited you?
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    I never noticed your sig, Beantown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Did anyone catch this --> Day 20 as JA explains June 4th to Nurmi...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNSypqlybc

    Nurmi asks; now after you have cleaned yourself up & you dispose of the gun & the rope what do you do next?
    JA responds; I uhm I started looking around for uhm the charger that I didn't that I thought I left because Matt hadn't answered his phone until HE WAS THERE {0:37:25 aprx} & da I started cleaning out the car & it was under the seat of the passenger side so I plugged it in I turned on my phone there is no reception there was,as uhm as I began to drive some reception came like one little bar & two & then one & then none & I had uhm I think I had voicemails I kept trying to check them but the reception wasn't strong enough to complete the call so I don't know if I had text messages or not but I texted...

    She said "HE WAS THERE" (Matt), she looks up after she realizes she's said that, almost like an Oop's, but continue's on.
    I did catch that in her testimony but thought I must have misunderstood (which is exactly what I am sure she is hoping everyone does). Maybe she has been covering for Matt in order for him to be out and help her get out too. He is more useful to her on the outside right now, otherwise I am sure she would have thrown him under the bus. Maybe the two ninjas=Matt and Jodi?

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    I don't remember what your signature was either. I certainly wouldn't have smited you for it.

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    Thank you for all the posts, links and especially to the person who posted the link to WS, (those who attend the trial and comment).

    I think Jodi enticed Travis with not only sex, but the car payment and a place to sleep for a few hours. Recall how concerned she was in her interview with Det Flores, "Will the check be cashed?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown Bitch View Post
    Okay everyone, I removed my sig because i kept getting smited for it. Sorry some of you didn't like it..however, i find it pretty sad and strange you complain and smite people about a sig on a forum but whatever floats your boat.
    Soooo now I want to know what it was!!! Lol.

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    Something else to think about:
    5:30:30 Last pic Alive (sitting in shower, pic from shoulder down)
    5:31:14 Ceiling Pic (dropped camera) (& it rolled onto the tile)
    5:32:16 JA foot Travis bloody Shoulder & (foot)

    From the time she claims she dropped the camera:
    * Got picked up & Body slammed in the tile
    * Getting screamed at as spit or water was getting her wet
    * Rolled over on her side (to her left)
    * Ran down the hallway into open closet door (on her right - bedroom entrance to closet)
    * Slammed door
    * Began to run (to other door toward bathroom but remembered the gun)
    * Jumped up on the shelf (he kept it on the very top)
    * Grabbed the gun
    * Ran out the closet door (bathroom closet door exit- as TA was opening the door she had slammed & chasing her)
    * Turned around & pointed the gun (they were in the middle of the bathroom)
    With "BOTH" my Hands
    * TA lunged at JA
    * TA got low & grabbed her waist (like a line backer)
    * Gun went off
    * Both fell hard against the tile (quote: "toward the other wall like kind of near the scales or whatever those things are")
    * Struggling & Wrestling while he was getting on top of her
    * TA was grabbing at her clothes
    * JA broke away from him (he was screaming angry & said "kill you bitch")
    {{Memory Loss after this point but does remember dropping the knife it clinged the tile it made a big noise & she screamed & was freaked out}}

    Questions--->
    1) How did she do what she explained happened in the time between, the pics 5:31:14 & 5:32:16, in that short amount of time?
    2) At what point did she pick up the camera from 5:31:14 (Ceiling Pic) & accidently take pic 5:32:16 (JA foot Travis bloody Shoulder & Foot). IF she was holding the gun with two hands, then we know she didn't take it with her on her flight down the hallway, into the closet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    I bet the rebuttal witness JM calls is Bianca or Steve. You could tell from Thursday's hearing, JM had talked to either Bianca or Steve about Jodi coming over there. I can't see Matt being very forthcoming with that information, so I bet JM talked to Bianca/Steve about what really went on..... Steve (the "maybe" gay guy) probably has some good dirt on Jodi. If I had to guess-it's going to be Steve. Since he was helping Bianca hide from Jodi that night-I bet he knows Jodi is crazy.

    There are going to be fireworks if Matt takes the stand. JM is going to tear into him. I suspect he will be the last witness Nurmi calls.
    I thought JM did a good job with the Steve-freaking-out thing. "Bitch, he isn't freaking out because he's maybe gay, he's freaking out because you're a frickin' loon!"

    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    This. What is it exactly that she fears so much knowing that it will be decades before this comes to pass and she has proven herself to be quite adept at manipulating and delaying so far? I mean it surely is not the norm to take four years to even come to trial!

    On another note, after watching the documentary that was posted, why do you think that crazy Jodi did not use the pregnancy angle to trap Travis? That was her ultimate goal it seems. She wanted to be his wife, to possess him etc etc so why not use a child to entrap him? It would have embarrassed him into possibly marrying her because of consequences within the church.
    I'd bet money that she did at some point. She already threatened to off herself, and pregnancy threats are Psycho Girlfriend 101. I'd be interested to see all of their emails.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkmink24 View Post
    Or 1001 Lies To Say Before You Die. ??? Lol
    I'm partial to, "How many lies does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?"


    Quote Originally Posted by tiggrrl72077 View Post
    I don't think Jodi would intentionally try to get pregnant. I don't think she wanted kids at all. That would pull the attention away from her. I think having a baby would change her dream lifestyle too much.
    Agreed. I doubt she wanted kids, but I think she'd threaten either way. She was with that old dude for years and never really formed a parent-ish relationship with his child.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Did anyone catch this --> Day 20 as JA explains June 4th to Nurmi...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBNSypqlybc

    Nurmi asks; now after you have cleaned yourself up & you dispose of the gun & the rope what do you do next?
    JA responds; I uhm I started looking around for uhm the charger that I didn't that I thought I left because Matt hadn't answered his phone until HE WAS THERE {0:37:25 aprx} & da I started cleaning out the car & it was under the seat of the passenger side so I plugged it in I turned on my phone there is no reception there was,as uhm as I began to drive some reception came like one little bar & two & then one & then none & I had uhm I think I had voicemails I kept trying to check them but the reception wasn't strong enough to complete the call so I don't know if I had text messages or not but I texted...

    She said "HE WAS THERE" (Matt), she looks up after she realizes she's said that, almost like an Oop's, but continue's on.
    Good catch. I didn't notice it at first, and I don't really see the "oops" moment, but it really does seem like a weird thing to say. Creeper.

    Quote Originally Posted by tiggrrl72077 View Post
    I don't remember what your signature was either. I certainly wouldn't have smited you for it.
    Yeah, we have an anonymous smiter 'round these parts. If you're gonna smite someone who doesn't have a red name, sign the damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Something else to think about:
    5:30:30 Last pic Alive (sitting in shower, pic from shoulder down)
    5:31:14 Ceiling Pic (dropped camera) (& it rolled onto the tile)
    5:32:16 JA foot Travis bloody Shoulder & (foot)

    From the time she claims she dropped the camera:
    * Got picked up & Body slammed in the tile
    * Getting screamed at as spit or water was getting her wet
    * Rolled over on her side (to her left)
    * Ran down the hallway into open closet door (on her right - bedroom entrance to closet)
    * Slammed door
    * Began to run (to other door toward bathroom but remembered the gun)
    * Jumped up on the shelf (he kept it on the very top)
    * Grabbed the gun
    * Ran out the closet door (bathroom closet door exit- as TA was opening the door she had slammed & chasing her)
    * Turned around & pointed the gun (they were in the middle of the bathroom)
    With "BOTH" my Hands
    * TA lunged at JA
    * TA got low & grabbed her waist (like a line backer)
    * Gun went off
    * Both fell hard against the tile (quote: "toward the other wall like kind of near the scales or whatever those things are")
    * Struggling & Wrestling while he was getting on top of her
    * TA was grabbing at her clothes
    * JA broke away from him (he was screaming angry & said "kill you bitch")
    {{Memory Loss after this point but does remember dropping the knife it clinged the tile it made a big noise & she screamed & was freaked out}} Questions--->
    1) How did she do what she explained happened in the time between, the pics 5:31:14 & 5:32:16, in that short amount of time?
    2) At what point did she pick up the camera from 5:31:14 (Ceiling Pic) & accidently take pic 5:32:16 (JA foot Travis bloody Shoulder & Foot). IF she was holding the gun with two hands, then we know she didn't take it with her on her flight down the hallway, into the closet?

    I don't think it's possible to do all of that in 1 minute 2 seconds. She's a flippin liar. She didn't necessarily have to pick up the camera for the 5:32:16 shot, it could have been on an auto timer.

    I put the above sentence in bold because I find this impossible. If she could remember dropping the knife and hearing it clink on the floor, she remembers stabbing Travis. I believe she really screwed herself over with the remembering dropping it and hearing it hit the floor. I hope the jury thinks like I do and is giving her the side eye. It's not possible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    I just spent the last couple hours bawling. :( This is one of the saddest and yet most moving films I've ever seen.
    Wow.....I can't stop crying. How touching. I am so angry when I think about all these evil monsters who take others loved ones away. It's so wrong, unfair, unjust, horrible, UGH!!!.... Cruel world sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    Soooo now I want to know what it was!!! Lol.
    If you scroll up to her posts a page or two ago you can still see it. I thought it was funny, all things considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    I'm partial to, "How many lies does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?"

    Yeah, we have an anonymous smiter 'round these parts. If you're gonna smite someone who doesn't have a red name, sign the damn thing.
    LOL on the center of the Tootsie Roll Pop.

    If you really want to know who smited you ask Mike (admin). He said the other day that he sees all and can tell you if you really had to know.

    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    If you scroll up to her posts a page or two ago you can still see it. I thought it was funny, all things considered.
    Well, I could at first still see it in the posts before she said she removed it, but now I can't. It was a person with a bandana on their face like a bank robber, holding a gun, knife and a Toblerone and it said something but I can't remember what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beantown Bitch View Post
    Yeah, she really is showing how she really is. sorry some of you don't like my sig. i'll take it out soon.
    hi bean, what was you sig? I have complmented sigs but never complained about one.

    Aug 8th meeting Juan is on like a bulldog is in the court mins -- interesting. This is when Jodi changed to being her own atty. It appears to go on a few days.
    2 Inmates are brought in as witnesses, a forensic document examiner... comment about Victoria 'advisory counsel' has concerns about Witness Matt McCartney.
    Another note to consider - somewhere around on Jan 11 2013 Matt posted about how wonderful Jodi was to keep him out of this because he asked her too. OOPS he is in court records 5/2011 and then this hearing in Aug. He isnt the brightest bulb lying about being out of it when we can read court mins for ourselves that he is very much IN it.
    hearing Aug 8 2011
    porn on computer

    This is the day Jodi moves to represent herself
    Nurmi and Washington advisory counsel
    Defendant is to interview the two defense witnesses by telephone
    Defense invokes the Rule of Exclusion.
    Defense makes an oral Motion to Continue this Evidentiary Hearing.
    IT IS ORDERED denying Defense Motion to Continue this Evidentiary Hearing.
    Defense makes an oral Motion to Stay these Proceedings.
    IT IS ORDERED denying Defense Motion to Stay these Proceedings.

    Steven Roberts (Sr Utilies Technican?)
    Deanna Reid -
    Christina Lopez Inmate Christina Evette Lopez - Inmate
    Alan Kreitl Forensic Document Examiner


    8/9
    For Def
    Heather R Nitterauer inmate w counsel Christopher
    Winchell

    8/10

    Rosemary Urbanski Polygraph def
    Advisory Counsel, Victoria Washington addresses possible issues with witness, Matthew McCartney as stated on the record

    8/15
    The Defendant request to have her advisory counsel reinstated as counsel of record
    IT IS ORDERED granting the State?s Motion to Preclude the Letters

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post


    This is the day Jodi moves to represent herself

    As Abraham Lincoln said "only a fool represents himself in court". I also think that narcissists are inclined to represent themselves in court, and also sociopaths because they think they are so much smarter and better than anyone else. They also think they can do just as good a job as people who have spent 7+ years in school for it. I think when someone asks to represent themselves it is very telling about their personality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    I don't think it's possible to do all of that in 1 minute 2 seconds. She's a flippin liar. She didn't necessarily have to pick up the camera for the 5:32:16 shot, it could have been on an auto timer.

    I put the above sentence in bold because I find this impossible. If she could remember dropping the knife and hearing it clink on the floor, she remembers stabbing Travis. I believe she really screwed herself over with the remembering dropping it and hearing it hit the floor. I hope the jury thinks like I do and is giving her the side eye. It's not possible!
    I don't think it was on auto time, I believe she had the camera snapped the 5:30:30 (Ta sitting in shower pic from shoulder down) immediately grabbed the knife (she had already concealed with her in the bathroom) stabbed him in the chest (while still holding the camera in her right hand & the knife in her left) 44 seconds after the previous pic she accidently snapped the 5:31:14 (ceiling light) pic, TA got up & out of shower & went over to the sink where he spit up blood as she was stabbing him in he back multiple times & he turned right down the hallway as she is continuing to stab him in the back he goes down near the bedroom carpet area, slices his throat (hence all of the blood on the carpet from stab & neck wounds) accidently snaps pic 5:32:16 (JA foot & Travis's bloody shoulder-- there is 1 minute & 46 seconds between the alive pic, right when I believe her assault began to the bloody shoulder & JA's foot pic)
    & the gun shot was after JA had already dragged him back into the bathroom stood near the sink area & shot him where he lay dead, put him in the shower.. etc
    Just my lil theory :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    As Abraham Lincoln said "only a fool represents himself in court". I also think that narcissists are inclined to represent themselves in court, and also sociopaths because they think they are so much smarter and better than anyone else. They also think they can do just as good a job as people who have spent 7+ years in school for it. I think when someone asks to represent themselves it is very telling about their personality.
    I don't think that is what was going on with this one. She did it after two yrs in jail. This was ONLY for getting pedo forgeries in.
    she was sneaking out messages for Matt Aug 4 and needed to be the one guiding the questions to him for the lies at the pedeo hearing.
    I also think the producers contact info was in there because she was directing Matt to get the pedo letters to the media!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    Phone records from Day 21 of Trial

    Text Messages
    1/21/08-5:38pm- Jodi says: I can?t remember am I coming in for u on Wed at 10:30?
    1/21/08-6:41pm- Jodi says: Can we trade cars before FHE?
    1/21/08-7:19pm- Jodi says: Never mind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8pm. I?ll just go tomorrow.
    1/21/08-7:20pm- Jodi resends 7:19pm text message
    1/21/08-7:24pm- Travis says: I got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you made the exchange.
    1/21/08-7:25pm- Jodi says: I?m almost asleep. Well see Zzz?
    1/21/08-7:27pm- Travis says: You obviously don?t need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car. Now you?re going to sleep?
    1/21/08-7:29pm- Jodi says: I fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. That?s when I sent u the text.
    1/21/08-7:36pm- Jodi says: I have a really bad headache. I can barely move.
    1/21/08-9:11pm- Travis says: Alright get it tomorrow then.
    1/21/08-9:16pm- Jodi says: Can you talk right now?
    1/21/08-9:17pm- Travis says: Not right now
    1/22/08-11:33am- Jodi says: How long?
    1/22/08-11:50am- Travis says: Did you use my phone this morning without asking?
    1/22/08-11:52am- Jodi says: I only used it after I asked u in the office. Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:19pm- Jodi says: Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:42pm- Travis says: Nothing
    1/22/08-12:20pm- Jodi says: Did you make the deposit?
    1/22/08-12:22pm- Travis says: Yes
    1/22/08-12:25pm- Jodi says: Thank you I?ll make it up to you soon.
    1/22/08-3:36pm- Jodi says: I?m going to need a ride! I?m off at 4pm. Txt me.
    1/22/08-4:04pm- Jodi says: Scratch that. Their keeping me here until 5pm!=( Can u pick me up then? The lunch offer from my v-mail still stands.
    1/22/08-4:08pm- Travis says: sure
    1/22/08-4:37pm- Jodi says: I?m almost off! Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the counter.
    Phone Calls
    1/21/08
    3:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:09pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:29pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
    4:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:54pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
    5:11pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
    5:20pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:48pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:53pm Jodi returns Travis?s call


    From the fb page.
    this is helpful thanks. I also put them in order of occurance by time not type for a straight line summary.

    1/21/2008

    3:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:09pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:29pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
    4:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:54pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
    5:11pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
    5:20pm Travis calls Jodi
    1/21/08-5:38pm- Jodi says: I can?t remember am I coming in for u on Wed at 10:30?
    5:48pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:53pm Jodi returns Travis?s call
    5:53pm Jodi returns Travis?s call
    1/21/08-6:41pm- Jodi says: Can we trade cars before FHE?
    7:11 LAST call made from Travis? phone
    1/21/08-7:19pm- Jodi says: Never mind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8pm. I?ll just go tomorrow.
    1/21/08-7:20pm- Jodi resends 7:19pm text message
    1/21/08-7:24pm- Travis says: I got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you made the exchange.
    1/21/08-7:25pm- Jodi says: I?m almost asleep. Well see Zzz?
    1/21/08-7:27pm- Travis says: You obviously don?t need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car. Now you?re going to sleep?
    1/21/08-7:29pm- Jodi says: I fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. That?s when I sent u the text.
    1/21/08-7:36pm- Jodi says: I have a really bad headache. I can barely move.
    1/21/08-9:11pm- Travis says: Alright get it tomorrow then.
    1/21/08-9:16pm- Jodi says: Can you talk right now?
    1/21/08-9:17pm- Travis says: Not right now

    1/22/08-11:33am- Jodi says: How long?
    1/22/08-11:50am- Travis says: Did you use my phone this morning without asking?
    1/22/08-11:52am- Jodi says: I only used it after I asked u in the office. Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:19pm- Jodi says: Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:42pm- Travis says: Nothing
    1/22/08-12:20pm- Jodi says: Did you make the deposit?
    1/22/08-12:22pm- Travis says: Yes
    1/22/08-12:25pm- Jodi says: Thank you I?ll make it up to you soon.
    1/22/08-3:36pm- Jodi says: I?m going to need a ride! I?m off at 4pm. Txt me.
    1/22/08-4:04pm- Jodi says: Scratch that. Their keeping me here until 5pm!=( Can u pick me up then? The lunch offer from my v-mail still stands.
    1/22/08-4:08pm- Travis says: sure
    1/22/08-4:37pm- Jodi says: I?m almost off! Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the counter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    I don't think it's possible to do all of that in 1 minute 2 seconds. She's a flippin liar. She didn't necessarily have to pick up the camera for the 5:32:16 shot, it could have been on an auto timer.

    I put the above sentence in bold because I find this impossible. If she could remember dropping the knife and hearing it clink on the floor, she remembers stabbing Travis. I believe she really screwed herself over with the remembering dropping it and hearing it hit the floor. I hope the jury thinks like I do and is giving her the side eye. It's not possible!
    The timer. I wonder if she had it on timer taking the photos of Travis in the shower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    The timer. I wonder if she had it on timer taking the photos of Travis in the shower?
    I definitely think it's possible.
    "When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau

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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    Howzabout a giant FUCK YOU to Mr. McCartney. No way this dude is getting to the stand.

    Also, I shall LOL if Matt was there when Travis died.
    And when Jodi talked about intruders, it was really her and Matt (since he's a ninja and all).
    And Ron was right about someone other than Jodi dragging/decimating Travis.
    That would be crazy. Ron would never let any of us live that down.

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    Just heard on the news that Gus Searcy is being questioned by the police as an accomplice. What do I win?
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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