"When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius
It takes a very sharp knife to slah a tire. What happened to that knife?
Okay everyone, I removed my sig because i kept getting smited for it. Sorry some of you didn't like it..however, i find it pretty sad and strange you complain and smite people about a sig on a forum but whatever floats your boat.
"When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius
I never noticed your sig, Beantown.
I did catch that in her testimony but thought I must have misunderstood (which is exactly what I am sure she is hoping everyone does). Maybe she has been covering for Matt in order for him to be out and help her get out too. He is more useful to her on the outside right now, otherwise I am sure she would have thrown him under the bus. Maybe the two ninjas=Matt and Jodi?
I don't remember what your signature was either. I certainly wouldn't have smited you for it.
Thank you for all the posts, links and especially to the person who posted the link to WS, (those who attend the trial and comment).
I think Jodi enticed Travis with not only sex, but the car payment and a place to sleep for a few hours. Recall how concerned she was in her interview with Det Flores, "Will the check be cashed?"
Something else to think about:
5:30:30 Last pic Alive (sitting in shower, pic from shoulder down)
5:31:14 Ceiling Pic (dropped camera) (& it rolled onto the tile)
5:32:16 JA foot Travis bloody Shoulder & (foot)
From the time she claims she dropped the camera:
* Got picked up & Body slammed in the tile
* Getting screamed at as spit or water was getting her wet
* Rolled over on her side (to her left)
* Ran down the hallway into open closet door (on her right - bedroom entrance to closet)
* Slammed door
* Began to run (to other door toward bathroom but remembered the gun)
* Jumped up on the shelf (he kept it on the very top)
* Grabbed the gun
* Ran out the closet door (bathroom closet door exit- as TA was opening the door she had slammed & chasing her)
* Turned around & pointed the gun (they were in the middle of the bathroom)
With "BOTH" my Hands
* TA lunged at JA
* TA got low & grabbed her waist (like a line backer)
* Gun went off
* Both fell hard against the tile (quote: "toward the other wall like kind of near the scales or whatever those things are")
* Struggling & Wrestling while he was getting on top of her
* TA was grabbing at her clothes
* JA broke away from him (he was screaming angry & said "kill you bitch")
{{Memory Loss after this point but does remember dropping the knife it clinged the tile it made a big noise & she screamed & was freaked out}}
Questions--->
1) How did she do what she explained happened in the time between, the pics 5:31:14 & 5:32:16, in that short amount of time?
2) At what point did she pick up the camera from 5:31:14 (Ceiling Pic) & accidently take pic 5:32:16 (JA foot Travis bloody Shoulder & Foot). IF she was holding the gun with two hands, then we know she didn't take it with her on her flight down the hallway, into the closet?
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I thought JM did a good job with the Steve-freaking-out thing. "Bitch, he isn't freaking out because he's maybe gay, he's freaking out because you're a frickin' loon!"
I'd bet money that she did at some point. She already threatened to off herself, and pregnancy threats are Psycho Girlfriend 101. I'd be interested to see all of their emails.
I'm partial to, "How many lies does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?"
Agreed. I doubt she wanted kids, but I think she'd threaten either way. She was with that old dude for years and never really formed a parent-ish relationship with his child.
Good catch. I didn't notice it at first, and I don't really see the "oops" moment, but it really does seem like a weird thing to say. Creeper.
Yeah, we have an anonymous smiter 'round these parts. If you're gonna smite someone who doesn't have a red name, sign the damn thing.
I don't think it's possible to do all of that in 1 minute 2 seconds. She's a flippin liar. She didn't necessarily have to pick up the camera for the 5:32:16 shot, it could have been on an auto timer.
I put the above sentence in bold because I find this impossible. If she could remember dropping the knife and hearing it clink on the floor, she remembers stabbing Travis. I believe she really screwed herself over with the remembering dropping it and hearing it hit the floor. I hope the jury thinks like I do and is giving her the side eye. It's not possible!
"When it comes time to die, let us not discover that we have never lived." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius
LOL on the center of the Tootsie Roll Pop.
If you really want to know who smited you ask Mike (admin). He said the other day that he sees all and can tell you if you really had to know.
Well, I could at first still see it in the posts before she said she removed it, but now I can't. It was a person with a bandana on their face like a bank robber, holding a gun, knife and a Toblerone and it said something but I can't remember what.
hi bean, what was you sig? I have complmented sigs but never complained about one.
Aug 8th meeting Juan is on like a bulldog is in the court mins -- interesting. This is when Jodi changed to being her own atty. It appears to go on a few days.
2 Inmates are brought in as witnesses, a forensic document examiner... comment about Victoria 'advisory counsel' has concerns about Witness Matt McCartney.
Another note to consider - somewhere around on Jan 11 2013 Matt posted about how wonderful Jodi was to keep him out of this because he asked her too. OOPS he is in court records 5/2011 and then this hearing in Aug. He isnt the brightest bulb lying about being out of it when we can read court mins for ourselves that he is very much IN it.
hearing Aug 8 2011
porn on computer
This is the day Jodi moves to represent herself
Nurmi and Washington advisory counsel
Defendant is to interview the two defense witnesses by telephone
Defense invokes the Rule of Exclusion.
Defense makes an oral Motion to Continue this Evidentiary Hearing.
IT IS ORDERED denying Defense Motion to Continue this Evidentiary Hearing.
Defense makes an oral Motion to Stay these Proceedings.
IT IS ORDERED denying Defense Motion to Stay these Proceedings.
Steven Roberts (Sr Utilies Technican?)
Deanna Reid -
Christina Lopez Inmate Christina Evette Lopez - Inmate
Alan Kreitl Forensic Document Examiner
8/9
For Def
Heather R Nitterauer inmate w counsel Christopher
Winchell
8/10
Rosemary Urbanski Polygraph def
Advisory Counsel, Victoria Washington addresses possible issues with witness, Matthew McCartney as stated on the record
8/15
The Defendant request to have her advisory counsel reinstated as counsel of record
IT IS ORDERED granting the State?s Motion to Preclude the Letters
As Abraham Lincoln said "only a fool represents himself in court". I also think that narcissists are inclined to represent themselves in court, and also sociopaths because they think they are so much smarter and better than anyone else. They also think they can do just as good a job as people who have spent 7+ years in school for it. I think when someone asks to represent themselves it is very telling about their personality.
I don't think it was on auto time, I believe she had the camera snapped the 5:30:30 (Ta sitting in shower pic from shoulder down) immediately grabbed the knife (she had already concealed with her in the bathroom) stabbed him in the chest (while still holding the camera in her right hand & the knife in her left) 44 seconds after the previous pic she accidently snapped the 5:31:14 (ceiling light) pic, TA got up & out of shower & went over to the sink where he spit up blood as she was stabbing him in he back multiple times & he turned right down the hallway as she is continuing to stab him in the back he goes down near the bedroom carpet area, slices his throat (hence all of the blood on the carpet from stab & neck wounds) accidently snaps pic 5:32:16 (JA foot & Travis's bloody shoulder-- there is 1 minute & 46 seconds between the alive pic, right when I believe her assault began to the bloody shoulder & JA's foot pic)
& the gun shot was after JA had already dragged him back into the bathroom stood near the sink area & shot him where he lay dead, put him in the shower.. etc
Just my lil theory :)
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I don't think that is what was going on with this one. She did it after two yrs in jail. This was ONLY for getting pedo forgeries in.
she was sneaking out messages for Matt Aug 4 and needed to be the one guiding the questions to him for the lies at the pedeo hearing.
I also think the producers contact info was in there because she was directing Matt to get the pedo letters to the media!
this is helpful thanks. I also put them in order of occurance by time not type for a straight line summary.
1/21/2008
3:53pm Jodi calls Travis
4:09pm Jodi calls Travis
4:29pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
4:53pm Jodi calls Travis
4:54pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
5:11pm Travis returns Jodi?s call
5:20pm Travis calls Jodi
1/21/08-5:38pm- Jodi says: I can?t remember am I coming in for u on Wed at 10:30?
5:48pm Travis calls Jodi
5:53pm Jodi returns Travis?s call
5:53pm Jodi returns Travis?s call
1/21/08-6:41pm- Jodi says: Can we trade cars before FHE?
7:11 LAST call made from Travis? phone
1/21/08-7:19pm- Jodi says: Never mind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8pm. I?ll just go tomorrow.
1/21/08-7:20pm- Jodi resends 7:19pm text message
1/21/08-7:24pm- Travis says: I got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you made the exchange.
1/21/08-7:25pm- Jodi says: I?m almost asleep. Well see Zzz?
1/21/08-7:27pm- Travis says: You obviously don?t need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car. Now you?re going to sleep?
1/21/08-7:29pm- Jodi says: I fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. That?s when I sent u the text.
1/21/08-7:36pm- Jodi says: I have a really bad headache. I can barely move.
1/21/08-9:11pm- Travis says: Alright get it tomorrow then.
1/21/08-9:16pm- Jodi says: Can you talk right now?
1/21/08-9:17pm- Travis says: Not right now
1/22/08-11:33am- Jodi says: How long?
1/22/08-11:50am- Travis says: Did you use my phone this morning without asking?
1/22/08-11:52am- Jodi says: I only used it after I asked u in the office. Why?
1/22/08-12:03:19pm- Jodi says: Why?
1/22/08-12:03:42pm- Travis says: Nothing
1/22/08-12:20pm- Jodi says: Did you make the deposit?
1/22/08-12:22pm- Travis says: Yes
1/22/08-12:25pm- Jodi says: Thank you I?ll make it up to you soon.
1/22/08-3:36pm- Jodi says: I?m going to need a ride! I?m off at 4pm. Txt me.
1/22/08-4:04pm- Jodi says: Scratch that. Their keeping me here until 5pm!=( Can u pick me up then? The lunch offer from my v-mail still stands.
1/22/08-4:08pm- Travis says: sure
1/22/08-4:37pm- Jodi says: I?m almost off! Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the counter.
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