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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Thank you! I'll read it. I'm really looking forward to watching the trial again. I was watching it on HLN and they break for commercials, so I lost some of the action and momentum. I'll also be more aware and watch for these things. It bothered me to learn that she gets to watch this stuff in jail. I know she's going to get coached all weekend on how to behave, but I hope she can't help herself with her need to show us how clever she is. Peace to you too
    here you go, this is worth a rerun. http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/02/2...estimony-trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feetprints View Post
    Yes.
    Oh geez....love your avatar!!!

    Thank you. I read up on it and thought it could be added to sociopath for Jodi

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    I know a few members has given their opinion of her personality disorder(s),but no one can convince me that is not a sociopath. I am not a therapist but I have no doubt in my mind that is her main disorder and shows traits of a histrionic . I truly believe she shows NO REMORSE at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Is this when he asked her something like "is this low enough for you ma'am?" One of Dr. Drew's jurors reported JM saying that and 3 of the male jurors were laughing. One had to cover his face with his legal pad he was laughing so hard.
    and Jodi had to then say, What, I can't hear you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    By chance do you know if someone can be a sociopath and have histrionic personality disorder?
    Absolutely! Actually many personality disorders coexist with each other. Just look at the basic Wiki information.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisoc...ality_disorder

    Unfortunately, I researched the hell out of personality disorders because once you realize you've come across a Sociopath...you will want to learn everything you can about them just to protect yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    WOW! I want to hear that!!! How did you catch it? Were you watching live feed, or youtube?
    I watched the Youtube video. I missed what he had said the first time, and rewound when she smiled. I knew I missed something because I could faintly hear something. I had my earbuds in too...that might have helped!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    HEY JODI...If you are reading this, you should know that if I was on the jury I would be voting guilty. Not only do I think you are guilty, but have grown to hate you. The jury hates you too. Nothing less than the death penalty for you. It seems you are quite popular at the jail and a life sentence would permit you to have satisfying interactions and develop relationships with other humans. You took that away from Travis. I hope you die a natural death on death row, locked in a cell 23 hours a day. I have to admit there was one day that I felt compassion and sympathy for you, that changed with your bullshit stories of sexual deviance and abuse. You are defective and dangerous and need to be eliminated from society.
    Ooh, I like that!!! I've been annoyed at the idea that she gets access to this stuff, but you knew how to turn it around.

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    Her sparing with Juan is really something. I think initially Travis was very interested in her, but quickly experienced her talents with talking in circles and focusing on some little thing to avoid the real issue. No wonder poor Travis was banging his head on the closet door as she described. She really seems to thrive on being argumentive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    and Jodi had to then say, What, I can't hear you"
    No! Seriously?!? I can't wait to hear all this. And see the expressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    No! Seriously?!? I can't wait to hear all this. And see the expressions.
    There's so many moments from that day! Maybe I'll work on putting together a list with the links. Famous Juan quotes :)

    When he is going at her for her memory problem, she spars I don't have a problem, okay issue then. It reminded me of Gus and okay, we'll call it a triangle then. Jodi has met her match!
    Juan asked if this memory ""issue" was a long standing thing, or is it of recent vintage.
    She decides to be a smartass and say, "define recent"
    Juan swaggering: I don't know, since you started testifying.



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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    There's so many moments from that day! Maybe I'll work on putting together a list with the links. Famous Juan quotes :)

    When he is going at her for her memory problem, she spars I don't have a problem, okay issue then. It reminded me of Gus and okay, we'll call it a triangle then. Jodi has met her match!
    Juan asked if this memory ""issue" was a long standing thing, or is it of recent vintage.
    She decides to be a smartass and say, "define recent"
    Juan swaggering: I don't know, since you started testifying.


    This! When he said "If it benefits you" and almost killed me too

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    I'm kind of amused at Dan Abrams and others saying that JM needs to tone it down. It's not gonna happen, and I believe he knows exactly what he's doing.

    First words out JM's mouth were, "Ma'am take a look at exhibit 413. You recognize that exhibit, correct? And that's a picture of you, correct, right here? And the other one is a picture of your dumb sister Angela, correct?"

    . . . and this is her instant psycho-killer reaction:


    No way he's backing off

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post
    I watched the Youtube video. I missed what he had said the first time, and rewound when she smiled. I knew I missed something because I could faintly hear something. I had my earbuds in too...that might have helped!
    Exactly what I had to do. I was like wtf is she just laughing at? I couldn't hear anything. Hubby glared at me when I cranked the laptop volume over the show he was watching. I was like, um, hello?!? This is WAY MORE IMPORTANT than your little Jeopardy recording. Anywho, I heard JM say "Ma'am", but couldn't make out the rest. Thanks for posting the full sentence. I too laughed when I heard him say just the ma'am part....However, if I was on trial trying to fight for my life, I wouldn't be laughing or smirking or snarky to anyone. JA is such a bitch. Yes, I know that fact has already been established.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    I'm kind of amused at Dan Abrams and others saying that JM needs to tone it down. It's not gonna happen, and I believe he knows exactly what he's doing.

    First words out JM's mouth were, "Ma'am take a look at exhibit 413. You recognize that exhibit, correct? And that's a picture of you, correct, right here? And the other one is a picture of your dumb sister Angela, correct?"

    . . . and this is her instant psycho-killer reaction:


    No way he's backing off
    She is so damned creepy!!!! UGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post
    I know a few members has given their opinion of her personality disorder(s),but no one can convince me that is not a sociopath. I am not a therapist but I have no doubt in my mind that is her main disorder and shows traits of a histrionic . I truly believe she shows NO REMORSE at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post
    Absolutely! Actually many personality disorders coexist with each other. Just look at the basic Wiki information.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisoc...ality_disorder

    Unfortunately, I researched the hell out of personality disorders because once you realize you've come across a Sociopath...you will want to learn everything you can about them just to protect yourself!
    I don't see any remorse from her either. I previously looked up psycho and sociopath and couldn't decide which one fit for Jodi, some histrionic in there too. I'm learning more about these personality disorders by following these high profile trials, especially this one. I've been watching 48 Hours for a long time, but I don't recall ever being as creeped out as I was after I watched Jodi in her 2008 interview. Her story was so obviously made up, but she told it so softly and sweetly with darkness in her eyes. All I could think of was evil. I also got the impression from the interview that she took advantage of his weaknesses and introduced him to sex all in an effort to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlisonL View Post
    When Jodi laughed during JM's cross, I swore I heard him whisper, "Ma'am"m, then say it a bit louder. Did anyone else hear that? I turned the volume up on my computer to listen a few times, but was competing with hubby's tv show. Whoops lol!
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    No but I am going to go replay it now. LOL
    Quote Originally Posted by AlisonL View Post
    Please let me know if you hear it, too. Need to crank the volume. Thanks!!
    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post
    Yes. He lowered the tone and decibel of his voice. That's why she giggled and looked down. Nurmi objected and called it a "stunt".



    ETA: I finally got caught up!!

    oh man I just went back and listened to that again with the volume way up. I can barely hear Martinez say "ma'am , ma'am". Now I know why Jodi was laughing! I heard that a few jurors were too. Heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlisonL View Post
    Exactly what I had to do. I was like wtf is she just laughing at? I couldn't hear anything. Hubby glared at me when I cranked the laptop volume over the show he was watching. I was like, um, hello?!? This is WAY MORE IMPORTANT than your little Jeopardy recording. Anywho, I heard JM say "Ma'am", but couldn't make out the rest. Thanks for posting the full sentence. I too laughed when I heard him say just the ma'am part....However, if I was on trial trying to fight for my life, I wouldn't be laughing or smirking or snarky to anyone. JA is such a bitch. Yes, I know that fact has already been established.
    BLASPHEMY!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    Without having to go back and search on that forum, re: Katie who is kindly taking the notes as an "insider" in the courtroom, did she know Travis?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinkasaurus View Post
    Not to my knowledge.
    Her sister was the victim of a horendous and notorious homicide there. It involved two brothers, I think from Germany, who came to U.S. to purposely insure and then marry someone, murder them and collect the money. After the brothers were convicted and given death sentence, the two jerks filed papers saying they were mentally retarded. AZ no death penality for mentally retarded. I think one brother was successful, but the other was not. Very sad. Very evil brothers, especially the leader brother.

    Here's a link about the crime and the leader evil brother.
    http://murderpedia.org/male.A/a/apelt-michael.htm
    Last edited by poorpaula; 02-22-2013 at 08:38 PM. Reason: add link for bad guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    There's so many moments from that day! Maybe I'll work on putting together a list with the links. Famous Juan quotes :)

    When he is going at her for her memory problem, she spars I don't have a problem, okay issue then. It reminded me of Gus and okay, we'll call it a triangle then. Jodi has met her match!
    Juan asked if this memory ""issue" was a long standing thing, or is it of recent vintage.
    She decides to be a smartass and say, "define recent"
    Juan swaggering: I don't know, since you started testifying.


    Definitely! With so many of us rooting for him, it would be a fun and cool tribute!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Totally clueless! Also I think she was so pleased with herself because she figured out the correct room number all by her smart little self.
    I found that whole story incredibly creepy. Who the hell does that? (besides Jodi, I mean). I was watching one of the HLN evening programs and one of TA's friends had been on. Talking about how he and his wife were uncomfortable with JA and someone told her she needed to leave and was NOT welcome, but her reaction was to stare at them while smiling all dead eyes, then sit down, and NOT leave. WTF? Creepy bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    I'm kind of amused at Dan Abrams and others saying that JM needs to tone it down. It's not gonna happen, and I believe he knows exactly what he's doing.

    First words out JM's mouth were, "Ma'am take a look at exhibit 413. You recognize that exhibit, correct? And that's a picture of you, correct, right here? And the other one is a picture of your dumb sister Angela, correct?"

    No way he's backing off


    yep - this isn't martinez's first rodeo

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlisonL View Post
    I found that whole story incredibly creepy. Who the hell does that? (besides Jodi, I mean). I was watching one of the HLN evening programs and one of TA's friends had been on. Talking about how he and his wife were uncomfortable with JA and someone told her she needed to leave and was NOT welcome, but her reaction was to stare at them while smiling all dead eyes, then sit down, and NOT leave. WTF? Creepy bitch.
    She is no doubt the creepiest thing I've ever seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post

    yep - this isn't martinez's first rodeo
    I am glad to see that it was a case of self defense and he said she said, with the he being dead. Gives me hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


    yep - this isn't martinez's first rodeo
    I can't stand that narrator's voice- I think it is from the series Snapped, correct? I don't know why they don't get someone better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


    yep - this isn't martinez's first rodeo
    He attacked me defense.

    JM cross "a number of days"

    combative
    refuse to answer the question directly
    couldn't keep her facts straight
    Reporter: He tore her apart on the witness stand

    Verdict GUILTY in 2 1/2 hrs

    thanks Harlette

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