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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    I think it was after Juan asked her what makes her forget & she replied something like people like You (JM) & TA yelling at me, it gets my mind scrambled ... something to that effect
    Holy crap!


    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    ..... it wasn't anything personal, she just mistook him for a serial killer......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Can anyone tell me how they use the psych profile? Could the psych evaluator take the stand for the prosecution? If so, what kind of information might they provide?
    I expect the prosecution to 'counter' the def boohoo expert, with an expert of the prosections own choice and detail all the reasons why Jodi doesn't have signs of an abused woman.
    In penatly phase, def we probably wil hear back to the womb any and all woes of poor Jodi. OMG, she was uprooted when she was 10 (moved) blah blah blah wooden spoons and who knows, maybe some boomshells not allowed in trial.

    Prosecution will then come out and counter them not only with expert that says, not traumic to move or whatever, but the prosection then will be like a mini case against her for the points of why it was cruel heinous etc mixed with this is not a 'disadvantaged' girl, she went on trips, had appropriate needs, private school, opporutnities of life that many don't have and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    Holy crap!
    sorry about using NG, but it's a short version must see part of that segment of the trial


    Immediately following here is Jodi so pleased with herself
    http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/...ing-cross-exam


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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    I'm watching NG and she said something about JA thought she got one over on the jury, then showed a clip of JA holding a laugh in. Does anyone know what question it was? She started smiling and almost laughed. She had to look down.
    Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bPbl...tu.be&t=38m14s
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GulfCoastMom View Post
    Prosecution!
    Welcome noob.

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    Does the defense get to see media? I can't remember..but i was just thinking, the defense is going to say something to her about all the smiling and smirking right?? I hope not or we'll be back to boring jodi. I hope she stays her true self throughout the rest of the trial. She is flipping nuts to show her true colors now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I have no investment in the case or anyone in it or following it. I don't make an effort to hurt anyone. If I did inadvertantly, I am sorry. I am well aware my language skills are lacking. I am not a smart person, the mind is aged and not what it once was, vocab declined. But I am grateful to discuss common interests here. If I appear ungifted in my word selections, I would hope others would give me the benefit of the doubt before taking any offense. I don't deny strong opinions, always had those. When you've known the hand of violence by the time you could walk, it colors strong opinions.
    Thank you for your apology wasthinking. You might have had a different opinion of my pushing situation if you had more information about it. What I said was a one-liner, but I guess it packed a punch with you. Adding creepy to my line probably made it worse. Anyway, you may be old (I think I am too ) but I don't think you're stupid. I like hearing what you have to say, so keep those opinions coming. And, I'm very sorry to hear you had to experience violence at such a young age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    I'm watching NG and she said something about JA thought she got one over on the jury, then showed a clip of JA holding a laugh in. Does anyone know what question it was? She started smiling and almost laughed. She had to look down.


    start at 39 mins - she laffs at around 40 mins - then nurmi jumps up and objects to stop her

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_bass View Post
    Someone on HLN is saying that Matt McCartney forged the pedophile letters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    You're right. It hasn't flown so far but that doesn't stop Nurmi from trying to put wings under it. The blood evidence shows that Travis was conscious and felt every cut and stab right up to the time she slashed his throat. So now Nurmi is trying by a 'technicality' (the alleged Perjury) or by convincing the jury that Travis was unconscious when Jodi Arias used the knife. Jodi can't help him. She blanked out!!!!! She's also caught in her own earlier lie(s) that she thinks Travis was alive when she took off from the house. Jodi didn't know the law. If Travis was alive, Jodi is dead!!! That's what all the sparring was about between her and Juan Martinez on the subject of whether or not Jodi was being "monogamous" when she was rolling around with Ryan in Salt Lake the next day. If she believed Travis was alive when she ran, then he must have known what she did to him and felt every cut. That meets the Death Penalty Test.
    Yep. If she doesn't remember the murder as she claims, then she should've just said "Travis was alive when I last saw him. I can't remember anything after the gun, so why wouldn't I believe he was alive?" I mean, since she claimed she thought the gun shot didn't hit him.


    I was perusing the WS link someone posted about the courtroom observers. I found it interesting that one of the ladies who was there said that Jodi does NOT wear her glasses when the jury is not in the room.

    I don't know if she legit needs them or not, but why would she only put them on when the jury is around, if she needed them to see all the time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    We most likely will. Rebuttal is limited to what the def addressed so ... if the DEF brings in their experts (which we know they will) then the State can bring in a 'rebuttal witness' to argue against that theory. I always saw these kinds of experts boring and modern juries comment more and more how experts are tending to cancel themselves out. Laymen get told two complete ends and just say to heck with it as any important factor. Unless we have a bleeding heart, or woe is me abused victim in the jury that can't get passed their own situation.
    I mean no offense! But my view as someone that had lived the life .. imo, too many people and yes, 'victims' only focus on that blame of the other and never ever take responsibilty for their choices in living that way. I don't feel that way myself. I can admit I played a big part in my own (adult) abuse. I also think looking within on what part I am responsible for was the only way I was able to change and not repeat those choices.
    Good! I'm hoping we will see it. I am so curious to hear what the psych person has to say about her. And I have a feeling the defense side is going to be very strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


    start at 39 mins - she laffs at around 40 mins - then nurmi jumps up and objects to stop her
    Oh man, I had only seen her response, not the giggle afterwards. That is too much Is she really this stupid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    sorry about using NG, but it's a short version must see part of that segment of the trial


    Immediately following here is Jodi so pleased with herself
    http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/...ing-cross-exam

    What an arrogant self centered snot face she is !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Can anyone tell me how they use the psych profile? Could the psych evaluator take the stand for the prosecution? If so, what kind of information might they provide?
    i read she was the rebuttal witness for the prosecution - rebuttal against the domestic abuse expert testifying for the defense

    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    I was wondering this also. You'd like to think that a defense team would have the resources to comb through everything in advance. I guess with her there's just...so...much. Yeah, they looked surprised.
    defense had all the evidence, and most are saying it was more theatrics, delaying to throw martinez timing off and to help w/ the objection to the judge to try to get it thrown out

    Quote Originally Posted by eliqueang View Post
    Does the defense get to see media? I can't remember..but i was just thinking, the defense is going to say something to her about all the smiling and smirking right?? I hope not or we'll be back to boring jodi. I hope she stays her true self throughout the rest of the trial. She is flipping nuts to show her true colors now.
    defense attys and jodi get to watch the media and tweek her performance - she watches all the news about herself evry nite from jail - just like they can come here and read - the only ones who can't are the jury

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    I am trying to keep my focus on what this trial is actually about.

    Is Jodi's basic position at this point something like this: "I shot him because he was attacking me, but I don't remember any of the stabbing, even though I remember dropping a knife, and then I didn't think he was really dead, but I washed my bloody hands with water from my trunk while driving through the desert after killing him."

    Am I at all close here??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    sorry about using NG, but it's a short version must see part of that segment of the trial


    Immediately following here is Jodi so pleased with herself
    http://www.hlntv.com/slideshow/2013/...ing-cross-exam

    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post

    Thank you for linking. My mind can't compute with this woman.


    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    ..... it wasn't anything personal, she just mistook him for a serial killer......

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    I think if the DT was trying to use stalling tactics with the magazine, it backfired. The way they acted made the magazines seem like a big deal - the way they were both flipping through and scanning all the pages.

    I think if they had just allowed it all in, there would have been less build up of suspense.

    It may not alter the ultimate impact of that evidence either way though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post


    start at 39 mins - she laffs at around 40 mins - then nurmi jumps up and objects to stop her
    What a character she is, she is just cracks herself up--- I hope this jury is savvy & see's right through her & her arrogance.
    ***BTW I love how JM (just after her giigle & side bar) began to whisper & become soft spoken. Love Him <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    defense attys and jodi get to watch the media and tweek her performance - she watches all the news about herself evry nite from jail - just like they can come here and read - the only ones who can't are the jury
    Oh, I get it....Wasn't Jodi just awesome on the stand? So smart and confident!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Thank you for your apology wasthinking. You might have had a different opinion of my pushing situation if you had more information about it. What I said was a one-liner, but I guess it packed a punch with you. Adding creepy to my line probably made it worse. Anyway, you may be old (I think I am too ) but I don't think you're stupid. I like hearing what you have to say, so keep those opinions coming. And, I'm very sorry to hear you had to experience violence at such a young age.
    well, I wouldn't change a belief I held all my life, never laying hands on anyone. I raised my children with, 'no excuse, don't want to hear it, you never settle anything by laying your hands on another in anger'.
    It's a weighed, thoughtful decision as to why I hold that belief strongly. If we had to go on emotion alone, emotional scars, hell, I'm a coward, you could put me in tears with one Juan look! Raise your voice and my brain locks up with fear. Not in the pretend Jodi way, in assholes and elbows run as fast as you can avoidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    Thank you for linking. My mind can't compute with this woman.
    I was absolutely gobsmacked when I watched that yesterday.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    Sorry can't help you. Unfortunately Jodi drew a blank and was unable to tell us how she did it.
    Seems legit.





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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    I was absolutely gobsmacked when I watched that yesterday.
    My jaw dropped and I inappropriately laughed. Not because I thought it was funny, but because I didn't know what else to do. It was an uncomfortable laugh. I watched a little more and I can't believe how she is speaking to the prosecutor. The way she is talking to him doesn't look/sound like a woman who is afraid of men.


    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    ..... it wasn't anything personal, she just mistook him for a serial killer......

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    Thank you for linking. My mind can't compute with this woman.
    It's all about oneupmanship, just like she's said herself many times. Think of 'winning' as the most important thing in your life. Not feelings, no others.. but a self centered allo about me win. Every little move is made to fulfill this need. If a game doesn't exist, they create one! They can't breath without it. Their very existance depends on oneup wins at all times. Her 'shaking' is Only when the game isn't going toward her 'win'. Fury rages below if you dare confront them that you see their game and call it. Makes them feel humilated, after all they think they were pure giggle genius. You'll pay double! Every perceived offense is magnified in their minds. and none go unpunished!
    I'll get you my pretty is their theme song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    My jaw dropped and I inappropriately laughed. Not because I thought it was funny, but because I didn't know what else to do. It was an uncomfortable laugh. I watched a little more and I can't believe how she is speaking to the prosecutor. The way she is talking to him doesn't look/sound like a woman who is afraid of men.
    Not at all. She is not doing herself any favors with that attitude. She probably thinks she's doing awesome though.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    well, I wouldn't change a belief I held all my life, never laying hands on anyone. I raised my children with, 'no excuse, don't want to hear it, you never settle anything by laying your hands on another in anger'.
    It's a weighed, thoughtful decision as to why I hold that belief strongly. If we had to go on emotion alone, emotional scars, hell, I'm a coward, you could put me in tears with one Juan look! Raise your voice and my brain locks up with fear. Not in the pretend Jodi way, in assholes and elbows run as fast as you can avoidance.
    I respect your opinion and will leave it at that.

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