Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[beli]

I'm not being sarcastic, but in WHAT trial have you ever seen a prosecutor circle a witness like she was a piece of meat that he / she was salivating over and waiting to devour?

I don't see it that way at all. He is passionate about his job. He wants to see justice for the family.
She is not as frail as she made herself out to be before with the defense questioning her. I think he is trying to show that, as well.



also, thanks harlette.

[elamir]

judge told them to be back at 1:25 to finish it up assuming so they can't stall any more

yeah, heard that too, Nurmi had like 5 pages to review assuming he's not completely witless he should be able to handle that.

[mariposa1369]

I don't see it that way at all. He is passionate about his job. He wants to see justice for the family.
She is not as frail as she made herself out to be before with the defense questioning her. I think he is trying to show that, as well.



also, thanks harlette.

I agree!

[AnnieBelle]

I'm not being sarcastic, but in WHAT trial have you ever seen a prosecutor circle a witness like she was a piece of meat that he / she was salivating over and waiting to devour?

I've seen it. The prosecutor in the Susan Wright case was pounding her fist onto the shelf in front of the witness box to indicate how many times the defendent had stabbed her husband (196 times, I believe.)

[NCBlonde]

Well, jeez, I quoted a bunch of stuff that I didn't want to quote somehow!

Anyways, with regards to the glasses? I think the point is, Jodi has always been image-conscious. She's always posted pictures of her looking perfectly posed; she relished Travis telling her how pretty she was; one of Travis' friend mentioned that Jodi always dressed for (male) attention and got it.

She was very much about her looks and receiving admiration and compliments. Now, here she is like the little meek, dressed-down church mouse. Whether she really needs glasses or not, it's manipulation to make her look non-threatening.

It's possible that prior to this she did have vision issues. Most likely she wore contact lens then. We've never seen a picture of her, prior to the trial, wearing glasses.

So, it's not so much the idea of "she doesn't need them, she's just wearing them to portray a certain image" and more of a "she may need them, but she was very looks-conscious and hadn't worn them before even if she needed them because they distracted from her 'beauty'."

I mean, this is a woman who asked to put on makeup when she was arrested, right? She smiled in her mug shot.

The glasses -- legit or not -- are part of this meek image she is trying to portray.

[Schpadoinkle]

I'm not being sarcastic, but in WHAT trial have you ever seen a prosecutor circle a witness like she was a piece of meat that he / she was salivating over and waiting to devour?

I have to agree. He's called "The Pitbull" for a reason. He is taking this aggressive stance to get her off-balance and change the pace since she's gotten used to being olive oyl for the last 2 weeks. No mercy for a bullshiter.

[AnnieBelle]

48 Hours also did a program on the Susan Wright case, as well as the Jodi Arias case.

[NCBlonde]

I don't know about anyone else's interpretation, but I don't think Martinez is being overly-aggressive, at all.

He's not badgering her. He's just being matter-of-fact and trying to shut her down before she gets off on one of her little meandering tangents that have nothing to do with what they're discussing.

Martinez is not going to be like the defense, where he spends 5 days recounting every little minute detail. He's picking out the important things and making her focus on them.


Side note: HLN host guy just mentioned about how he'd broken his finger before and it was hard to write, and the writing difference was noticeable. He said Jodi's writing looked the same before and after the so-called broken finger incident.

But, I think that the most important part of that is the fact that it was mentioned the date where Jodi claims Travis assaulted her and was looking at child porn, she made absolutely no mention of it in her journal at all.

[Twinmutha]

What time are they coming back? My kids are down for a nap. I have some "me" time dammit!!!!!

[jingles]

What does it mean to impeach?
she isnt an official, so Im guessing there must be another form?

im?peach

/imˈpēCH/
Verb
1.Call into question the integrity or validity of (a practice): "a motion to impeach the verdict".
2.Charge (the holder of a public office) with misconduct.

Synonyms: accuse - inculpate - charge - arraign - incriminate

[Jem]

Can someone confirm the time from the last picture of Travis alive to the one of him bleeding on the floor? Just reading the police report and it says 3 minutes. Jodi's little bathroom/closet chase and her shooting the gun don't even correlate with these pictures. The last picture of him alive was supposedly at 530 and then at 533 it shows Travis on the floor, at the NORTH end of the hallway, bleeding profusely from the neck. And how if she had already cut his neck did he get to end of the hallway so fast? I suppose he could have still run but that was a fatal injury. Confused. Anyone?

[debk589]

I don't see it that way at all. He is passionate about his job. He wants to see justice for the family.
She is not as frail as she made herself out to be before with the defense questioning her. I think he is trying to show that, as well.

I agree with this. He's the only voice of the victim in that entire courtroom. Travis himself would probably be pretty pissed up there questioning Jodi, so JM gets equally as passionate. He's done it in all his cases (and yes, I've watched videos of his other cases). JM FanClub fo' Life!!

[smurfy]

im?peach

/imˈpēCH/
Verb
1.Call into question the integrity or validity of (a practice): "a motion to impeach the verdict".
2.Charge (the holder of a public office) with misconduct.

Synonyms: accuse - inculpate - charge - arraign - incriminate

Ok, so if they did that, what benefit would it have? Would she gain more charges?

[elamir]

I don't know, but people criticising the prosecutor might take a moment to remember that a man in the prime of his life was brutally murdered, then accused of being a pedophile and an abuser, the prosecutor is speaking for Travis and defending him as Travis is no longer able to speak for himself. If I was a part of Travis' family Juan would be like a hero to me.

[Fidget]

That might negate the gravity of the photo of her hand he entered into evidence where it looks normal, if he were to show how it can look normal now.

But didn't she hold it up all bent for Nurmi a couple days ago?

[I doubt it]

Can someone confirm the time from the last picture of Travis alive to the one of him bleeding on the floor? Just reading the police report and it says 3 minutes. Jodi's little bathroom/closet chase and her shooting the gun don't even correlate with these pictures. The last picture of him alive was supposedly at 530 and then at 533 it shows Travis on the floor, at the NORTH end of the hallway, bleeding profusely from the neck. And how if she had already cut his neck did he get to end of the hallway so fast? I suppose he could have still run but that was a fatal injury. Confused. Anyone?

I think Travis was hurt in that last picture. Maybe she had stabbed him in the back or somewhere else we can't see. I see a fat upper lip and bruise to the left of his chin.
Why is he sitting with the water running?

[Kristinella]

I did some Jodi rambling to get my S.O. up to speed and I think he now officially thinks I'm crazy.

[NCBlonde]

What time are they coming back? My kids are down for a nap. I have some "me" time dammit!!!!!

I think someone said 1:30 Mountain time? So, in like 10 minutes?

[Justice11]

I don't know about anyone else's interpretation, but I don't think Martinez is being overly-aggressive, at all.

He's not badgering her. He's just being matter-of-fact and trying to shut her down before she gets off on one of her little meandering tangents that have nothing to do with what they're discussing.

Martinez is not going to be like the defense, where he spends 5 days recounting every little minute detail. He's picking out the important things and making her focus on them.


Side note: HLN host guy just mentioned about how he'd broken his finger before and it was hard to write, and the writing difference was noticeable. He said Jodi's writing looked the same before and after the so-called broken finger incident.

But, I think that the most important part of that is the fact that it was mentioned the date where Jodi claims Travis assaulted her and was looking at child porn, she made absolutely no mention of it in her journal at all.

I agree with this. He's the only voice of the victim in that entire courtroom. Travis himself would probably be pretty pissed up there questioning Jodi, so JM gets equally as passionate. He's done it in all his cases (and yes, I've watched videos of his other cases). JM FanClub fo' Life!!

I don't know, but people criticising the prosecutor might take a moment to remember that a man in the prime of his life was brutally murdered, then accused of being a pedophile and an abuser, the prosecutor is speaking for Travis and defending him as Travis is no longer able to speak for himself. If I was a part of Travis' family Juan would be like a hero to me.

I don't see it that way at all. He is passionate about his job. He wants to see justice for the family.
She is not as frail as she made herself out to be before with the defense questioning her. I think he is trying to show that, as well.



also, thanks harlette.

I agree with all of this!

[NCBlonde]

I don't know, but people criticising the prosecutor might take a moment to remember that a man in the prime of his life was brutally murdered, then accused of being a pedophile and an abuser, the prosecutor is speaking for Travis and defending him as Travis is no longer able to speak for himself. If I was a part of Travis' family Juan would be like a hero to me.

I do agree with you.

I will say that Martinez has to tread carefully, because if he gets to what looks to be badgering, then there's the jurors will feel sympathy for her. I actually would love to see him break her down and make her flip out or something, but, he has to be careful about how he handles her.

I don't seem him crossing the line, or even getting close to it, when it comes to badgering. I don't find his cross to be aggressive or anything of the sort.

[MoonDancer]

He is going to command that she answer to HIM.

Legally, Martinez cannot COMMAND Jodi answer to HIM. He can cross-examine her within constraints of the legal system, BUT he cannot COMMAND shit. She has constitutional rights.

[aaronsmommy]

I think someone said 1:30 Mountain time? So, in like 10 minutes?

Yes - it's 1324 here... so just a few minutes (if they start on time - Nurmi was saying that they needed more time to go over the fricking 5 pages)

[acertaingirl]

Question....is this the only case JM has worked on in the past 5 years, or does he have others at the same time? He seems to be working alone, wonder if he has time to sleep?

[raisedbywolves]

yeah, heard that too, Nurmi had like 5 pages to review assuming he's not completely witless he should be able to handle that.

AND eat a Nurmi lunch too? I'm not sure about that!

[I doubt it]

I do agree with you.

I will say that Martinez has to tread carefully, because if he gets to what looks to be badgering, then there's the jurors will feel sympathy for her. I actually would love to see him break her down and make her flip out or something, but, he has to be careful about how he handles her.

I don't seem him crossing the line, or even getting close to it, when it comes to badgering. I don't find his cross to be aggressive or anything of the sort.

I don't think he wants her to flip out until he's just about finished.