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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    I've watched this several times, and I think it's the slight head cock, plus a slight movement of the head forward, plus the lack of blinking.
    This is SUPER CREEPY. Oh wow. It's that emptiness I was trying to explain! I just got those chills again - x100!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    I hear you there!
    My brain feels overloaded and completely empty all at once!! I'm pissed we have to wait until Tuesday!!!
    I too, need to start having fun with my man...I seem to talk about this case a lot when we have conversations and after a while of me blabbing on like Jodi, ABOUT Jodi, he's like, "Wow, sounds intense. Can we talk about real life now?" LOL!! It's on my mind 24/7 sometimes it seems... Ugh. Hopefully they FINALLY get to the actual murder next week, but you never know. You watch! I'm calling it, on Thursday, afternoon session, they will talk about every single second of 6/4/08 leading up to 5:30pm ........we'll get to
    Jodie: "Um...so...um...Travis got into the shower...and...."
    Wormi: "Judge, should we recess for the weekend...?"
    Judge: "Yes, ladies and gentleman, we will recess for the day. Please be back in the designated area on Monday at 10:30am, have a nice weekend."
    Shahoolie11: "ARRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!! FUCK THIS SHIT!!!"
    My husband says he misses me. LOL!!!! He says since I have joined this group, I am typing and listening to the trial on my headphones at the same time. I'm missing all of my favorite shows because of this bitch! It will be nice to spend some time with my jack ass husband for the weekend. I say that in the nicest way possible. I do all of my trial stuff when the kids are sleeping. But who cares about hubby. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by poorpaula View Post
    At one point yesterday very end or near there, the camera was on her and her face had morphed, no other way to say it. I could not see her anywhere. It was scary. So morphed, I would swear even her bone structure was different. Gave me heebeejeebees.
    I want to know more about this!!! What do you mean her face morphed and her bone structure was different??? AHH!! I just watched the very end of trial yesterday again, and I couldn't find the spot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinmutha View Post
    I think we are going to see something crazy when Juan gets up there! I honestly do. She is going to definitely crack. Lose it. Cry hysterically. Get pissed. We are going to see a totally different side of her. The side that Travis got to see/hear on a daily basis. I'm sure Nurmi will be objecting everything Juan says and will drag Juan's out too. Jodi will really be shaking like a chiuaua when Juan gets a hold of her. I'm popping popcorn and making a fire in my fireplace all next week as soon as Juan gets up there. Shit is going to hit the fan and it is going to get gooooood.......
    She 'shakes' speaking in front of crowds
    Shakes doing Karaoke
    Shakes singing in prison.

    All BS from a sociopath that is trying to mirror nerves. She doesn't realize she is over presenting her shaking word of the day. People are expecting feeling? Why? can't be scared when you have no feelings like her. Can't be both, a psycho with no feelings and feelings to crack.
    This is the woman that slaughtered a man and move on without blinking an eye to every single person since. Her sociopathy will help her not react and don't think her def team hasn't coached to her the max not to react to him also. I think the most she'll do is shut down. Just like yesterday her voice small and quiet is all you saw. Minor. She did that with Flores when stuck . Watch her body language too, she'll have a tendancy to pull back ever so slightly but its there while buying time. Sometimes it is just a tiny flex, push her hair or her head tilts or pulls back her hands. Sometimes its pulling her legs and body back away from her questioner. She can't pull her knees up on the stand to mirror a fetal position on a chair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinmutha View Post
    My husband says he misses me. LOL!!!! He says since I have joined this group, I am typing and listening to the trial on my headphones at the same time. I'm missing all of my favorite shows because of this bitch! It will be nice to spend some time with my jack ass husband for the weekend. I say that in the nicest way possible. I do all of my trial stuff when the kids are sleeping. But who cares about hubby. LOL
    Ha Ha My husband is deployed. I actually got him hooked on the trial while he was on leave before he left. Now when he calls me he asks for updates. He was pissed that he is missing her on the stand! This case just gets under people's skin doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    She 'shakes' speaking in front of crowds
    Shakes doing Karaoke
    Shakes singing in prison.

    All BS from a sociopath that is trying to mirror nerves. She doesn't realize she is over presenting her shaking word of the day. People are expecting feeling? Why? can't be scared when you have no feelings like her. Can't be both, a psycho with no feelings and feelings to crack.
    This is the woman that slaughtered a man and move on without blinking an eye to every single person since. Her sociopathy will help her not react and don't think her def team hasn't coached to her the max not to react to him also. I think the most she'll do is shut down. Just like yesterday her voice small and quiet is all you saw. Minor. She did that with Flores when stuck . Watch her body language too, she'll have a tendancy to pull back ever so slightly but its there while buying time. Sometimes it is just a tiny flex, push her hair or her head tilts or pulls back her hands. Sometimes its pulling her legs and body back away from her questioner. She can't pull her knees up on the stand to mirror a fetal position on a chair.
    Ooooo, I'll pay attention to that for sure. You have a good point. I guess I'm hoping for some drama. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockabillychick View Post
    Ha Ha My husband is deployed. I actually got him hooked on the trial while he was on leave before he left. Now when he calls me he asks for updates. He was pissed that he is missing her on the stand! This case just gets under people's skin doesn't it?
    It sure does! High five to you and your hubby! I don't know how you can do it. Good for you and thanks to him for fighting for all of us. :)

    You guys can have a weekend YouTube fest when he gets home. Get him caught up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Very unlikely, the bullet went right to left, not left to right like his body was found.
    Well! Something like that then! Who knows exactly what position his head was in when she shot him. It's feasible that he was not in the same position that his body was found. No?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    What do the French call it? Post coital [B]Tristesse?[B]The melancholy that sets in after an intense session of sex! You can see it in Travis languid pose in that first picture of him on the bed with his privates showing. I think Jodi caught him by surprise in that particular picture and it appears to me than he didn't like what she was doing. In the second photo, it looks like he's waving her off. It could not have been very long before Travis started to send out signals that he wanted the visit to end. What could more obvious than telling Jodi to get up and get off the bed 'cause he wanted to wash the sheets and probably that she'd better get going on up to Salt Lake. He stripped the bed, (she probably helped him, trying to hang on as long as she could), carried the bedding downstairs and loaded them into the washer. Travis went to his office to take care of some business or other, Jodi followed him and they soon did the dirty for the last time with Jodi bent over Travis desk. When that was over the wash cycle was probably finished and Travis loaded the sheets into the dryer. By this time he was long past the 'melancholy.' He probably told Jody that he wanted to go back upstairs to shower and clean-up while the sheets were drying and then remake his bed. It was most likely at this point that Jodi realized that Travis was calling it quits. It was over. Travis wanted her out of there. All of those same feelings she went through when she left with the U-Haul in April came flooding back--along with the fury. Travis went upstairs and climbed into the shower. Jodi got dressed, got the gun and the knife and the camera. She went into the bathroom and started snapping pictures of Travis in the shower without his consent (just like she used to do with the old guy she lived with in Palm Desert,) desperately trying to get him to play some more 'cute' games and elicit some reaction from Travis that she could read as a sign that he was not rejecting her. Travis probably got even more annoyed at what she was doing by trying to start the game up again and probably told her to cut it out and get on her way. For Jodi, that was the last straw. She put her plan into action and started stabbing. At one point, in confusion and disbelief, Travis probably said, "I can't feel my legs." That was probably at the bedroom end of the hallway when she was trying to stop him from escaping and to drag him back to the bathroom and perhaps encouraging him to go along with her. By this time Travis strength was almost at an end and he was desperate for help. Jodi was the only one there to appeal to. We've all heard of cases where victims in their extremis appealed to their murderers for help; they were in such shock that they couldn't comprehend what was really happening to them. It was either around here or after she got him back into the shower, Jodi slit Travis' throat.

    Once Jodi got Travis back into the shower, she shot him in the head. Perhaps it was overkill on her part, but I think she did it principally to throw the police investigation off and give her a back-up defense and put some legs under the two Ninja story--one with a gun, one with a knife-- she had dreamed up in advance in the event the cops penetrated all of her subterfuges and somehow figured out she had been there. Jodi then gathered up Travis's clothes and his camera, deleted the pictures as best she could, set the latch on the bedroom door to lock behind her, went downstairs, threw his clothes into the washer, tossed in the camera, (trying to both destroy the images and to make it appear that the camera got into the washing machine be being accidentally mixed up with the laundry), doused everything with bleach, turned the wash cycle on, and high-tailed it out of Travis house.

    Jodi's plan was thought out from start to finish. She just didn't execute it all that well. That spells cold-blooded, premeditated murder to me.

    One of the most poignant images to me is Travis's cry, (according to Jodi and I think it's true except she inserted into the Ninja lie), his cry that he couldn't 'feel' his legs. Then we see those same legs in the autopsy pictures. Strong, well-developed, youthful legs that this monstrous creature sapped of all their strength in virtual seconds.
    OMG....this was a PERFECT description of what PROBABLY DID HAPPEN!!!! I think you've got it... I WANT TO HEAR HER SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She never will.
    Thank you Ian 1 for posting this, what a great play-by-play. Even if I can't get the satisfaction of a TRUE confession from Jodi - being on this forum fulfills a lot of that desire for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmandy9 View Post
    This is SUPER CREEPY. Oh wow. It's that emptiness I was trying to explain! I just got those chills again - x100!
    Totally agree... and there were other times when it was visible, when she was testifying about the letter, and about their fight when Travis called her a bitch.

    I hope the jury is picking up on this vibe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinmutha View Post
    My husband says he misses me. LOL!!!! He says since I have joined this group, I am typing and listening to the trial on my headphones at the same time. I'm missing all of my favorite shows because of this bitch! It will be nice to spend some time with my jack ass husband for the weekend. I say that in the nicest way possible. I do all of my trial stuff when the kids are sleeping. But who cares about hubby. LOL
    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was awesome!!! And...I agree, this bitch has made me miss getting caught up on Revenge, American Idol, The Walking Dead, etc, etc...I want this hussy to go down, JUST FOR THAT!

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    Whoever is admin for State vs Jodi Arias must be hanging out here. They just shared the blog link for Katie Barnes - the one I posted yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinmutha View Post
    Ooooo, I'll pay attention to that for sure. You have a good point. I guess I'm hoping for some drama. LOL
    I think your 'drama' wish is more 'revenge' wishful thinking lol While we are out this long time try and check out vids. It's hard because you'll have to literally shut out her BS words and don't let emotion rule you. Just try and watch to learn her mannerisms and I bet you will see them. People tend to want the 'creep' factors but that is always monday quaterbacking. Making a scary movie for themselves I suppose. But, she could be your waitress, your checkout gal and you wouldn't look twice. It's only in trying to make a 'boogie man' those things are seen. If we could *see* boogie men before they kill we wouldn't have dead victims every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    She 'shakes' speaking in front of crowds
    Shakes doing Karaoke
    Shakes singing in prison.

    All BS from a sociopath that is trying to mirror nerves. She doesn't realize she is over presenting her shaking word of the day. People are expecting feeling? Why? can't be scared when you have no feelings like her. Can't be both, a psycho with no feelings and feelings to crack.
    This is the woman that slaughtered a man and move on without blinking an eye to every single person since. Her sociopathy will help her not react and don't think her def team hasn't coached to her the max not to react to him also. I think the most she'll do is shut down. Just like yesterday her voice small and quiet is all you saw. Minor. She did that with Flores when stuck . Watch her body language too, she'll have a tendancy to pull back ever so slightly but its there while buying time. Sometimes it is just a tiny flex, push her hair or her head tilts or pulls back her hands. Sometimes its pulling her legs and body back away from her questioner. She can't pull her knees up on the stand to mirror a fetal position on a chair.
    Sociopathy is SO intriguing to me since this trial started. I really had no interest in learning about these disorders, then I read "The Sociopath Next Door" - and what you said about Jodi's minor/slight movements, mannerisms, mirroring and reactions really gets my brain going! I want to pay closer attention to these little nuances she has. Are you in the criminology field? Do you study micro-expressions, sociopathy, psychopathy at all? From your post, you seem to know what you're talking about! All very interesting stuff! I'm not really good at catching minor movements, but I bet once I start tuning in, I'll see what you're talking about. All I see when I look at Jodi is THE SAME expression: vacant. Dead. GONE. Her mouth moves, her eyebrows never move, besides her slight smirks here and there, I never see any other movement to her lips or mouth. I'm ALWAYS using my facial expressions as a way to convey my exact feelings. She is so hollow. I'm probably being way harsh on her, because I hate the fucking slaughtering heartless hogwhore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Whoever is admin for State vs Jodi Arias must be hanging out here. They just shared the blog link for Katie Barnes - the one I posted yesterday
    I'm sure they do, they don't miss much. They seem to have finds from all over the internet from what I've seen. They do a good job covering a lot. Maybe it's a team of people helping each other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Whoever is admin for State vs Jodi Arias must be hanging out here. They just shared the blog link for Katie Barnes - the one I posted yesterday
    It's actually two women from Australia I believe. Or that's how it originally started.

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    This is me right now. In bed. Kids taking a nap. Headphones in talking to you guys. If you can look closer, YouTube is on too. Watching yesterdays trial. This is my life now. Nurmi just asked her if she is embarrassed to say penis. We all know she isn't........ LOL

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    Small timeline question....the pic of T sitting in the shower. Is the general consensus that he had already been injured, or was it before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Small timeline question....the pic of T sitting in the shower. Is the general consensus that he had already been injured, or was it before?
    Great question. I was wondering the same thing. Something tells me she was in control at this moment. Maybe he knew she was getting ready to get all stabby on him. If he wasn't hurt already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinmutha View Post
    This is me right now. In bed. Kids taking a nap. Headphones in talking to you guys. If you can look closer, YouTube is on too. Watching yesterdays trial. This is my life now. Nurmi just asked her if she is embarrassed to say penis. We all know she isn't........ LOL
    Yeah, she's embarrassed to say penis, not too embarrassed to chow down on it :@

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Small timeline question....the pic of T sitting in the shower. Is the general consensus that he had already been injured, or was it before?
    I'm on the fence on that one. Part of me thinks he had already received the initial stab to the chest (although there is no visible blood), but I also see a scenario where she was holding the knife in a threatening manner and told him to sit down.

    In either case, I think adrenaline kicked in after that and he tried to make a break for it, knocking the camera out of her hand on his way out of the shower (causing the ceiling pic). The rest of the attack followed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    I'm on the fence on that one. Part of me thinks he had already received the initial stab to the chest (although there is no visible blood), but I also see a scenario where she was holding the knife in a threatening manner and told him to sit down.

    In either case, I think adrenaline kicked in after that and he tried to make a break for it, knocking the camera out of her hand on his way out of the shower (causing the ceiling pic). The rest of the attack followed...
    I never thought of it like that!!! That is a good scenario. Oooooo, I like it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Yeah, she's embarrassed to say penis, not too embarrassed to chow down on it :@
    LMAO!!!!! Right!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I really believe Nurmi has no plans soon of getting to the murder any time soon, including next week. Think positive zee! he only has her car loaded back on the Uhaul dolly for April.
    Well, I can watch on YouTube too, but IT'S JUST NOT THE SAME
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    OMG....this was a PERFECT description of what PROBABLY DID HAPPEN!!!! I think you've got it... I WANT TO HEAR HER SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She never will.
    Thank you Ian 1 for posting this, what a great play-by-play. Even if I can't get the satisfaction of a TRUE confession from Jodi - being on this forum fulfills a lot of that desire for me!
    Thanks! I'm old and have seen and studied and lived a lot. I tend to seek insight and gain understanding of significant events by experiencing the protagonists within a Dramatic structure. That sounds too academic but it works for me and we all do it. I want to see this Jodi Arias re-enact her part from the witness stand just as much as you do. I don't know how much truth we can expect. Our 'Gut' will tell us what is false. Trust it.

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