Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[poorpaula]

Thank you so much for the inside scoop! You are awesome! It was really nice of Martinez to stop and chat. What a nice guy. I wonder if the jury doesn't submit their questions until the last day she is on the stand?

You are not crazy for going to the trial! If I lived closer I definitely would want to. I agree about Jodi looking frail. I think that is part of her strategy? I bet she's lost a good 20 lbs or more in prison. She was thin before, but not the way she is now.

I really hope the vibe you picked up from the jury is accurate. The media is so hush hush and conservative in regards to the jury. I would love to be a mind reader, lol!

Again, tanks for all the details!



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Thanks everyone

[Justice11]

Thank you. I've been lurking long time, feel like a kid spying over the fence at the big kids who don't have to stay in the backyard. I was hanging on the fence watching in here the other day, so exciting, everyone posting tidbits of intell re the jurrors. That was it for me. I couldn't take it anymore, grabbed a twitter remark about a jurror that hadn't been posted, and went and registered. Yahoo, refresh...yahoo, refresh, repeat. Next day, still not allowed in so I wrote. Coolest thing ever, the grandpoobah, answered saying, "apologies. site's been shitty lately," and that it was fixed. After seeing straightup email, I was even more excited. So yay, I made it. Thrilled to be in.
Thanks everyone

And you became premium too!!! Awesome!
So glad you joined! :)

[poorpaula]

'You are the ultimate slut in bed"

'You will feel like you are being raped and enjoy every minute of it."

'You'll rejoice in being a whore, have animalistic sex with me and pleasing me in any way I desire.'


i don't think travis text this to her. i think she sent them to herself.

I agree. What about him saying "muse," whatever. That's Jodi flowery language, not a man.

[poorpaula]

And you became premium too!!! Awesome!
So glad you joined! :)

thank you thank you. auto renew too, i'm in and it's all good.

[Ian 1]

GAH - I will have to watch it later if I can. I really wanted to see Skye, I like her.

Yup! That's what the truth looks like--straightforward and simple. Jodi's a talking pretzel.

[poorpaula]

I just fished out deleted tivo recording of Nancy Grace to look at her montage leadin, strung together clips of jodi testifying yesterday. I wanted to see if what I thought I had seen was really there. This leadin clip, I see Jodi connecting to someone in that jury. Most likely a connection only in her mind, just like Travis, but it was blatant. So animated and locked on someone. I had been catching her stealing glances a couple of times, like she was monitoring someone in there. And then I noticed that she started checking there too after she would do her flash crazy face when Juan made an objection, interupting her as she was about to shift into high gear, doubled speed spidey speaking shooting lies like a tommy gun. I am curious if anyone else seeing this too? TV in person? Thanks for responses in advance. I am dying to hear it's being picked up by others.

[poorpaula]

Me too. And I do not believe they had vaginal intercourse, ever. Main reason I believe this has nothing to do with Jodi's quest for chastity. Not once have I heard Nurmi ask her about birth control. Not once, granted I have dozed off acouple times, so maybe I missed it. But especially if someone got you vaginally, first time every, while you were asleep......and taking into consideration Nurmi is hopefully trying to save her life....in the real world and Jodi's world, everyone would be focused on and highlighting the huge emotional drama and anguish, worrrying about getting pregnant after an event like that. But I onluy heard crickets. That's not right. I call reasonable person's reality bs.

[Obs3ssion]

I have a picture of one of the ninjas [IMG][/IMG]

This seriously freaks me out, thinking this is one of the last images Travis saw and indeed she probably wore that stupid-ass lip-linered smile of hers...

[morbidT]

Me too. And I do not believe they had vaginal intercourse, ever. Main reason I believe this has nothing to do with Jodi's quest for chastity. Not once have I heard Nurmi ask her about birth control. Not once, granted I have dozed off acouple times, so maybe I missed it. But especially if someone got you vaginally, first time every, while you were asleep......and taking into consideration Nurmi is hopefully trying to save her life....in the real world and Jodi's world, everyone would be focused on and highlighting the huge emotional drama and anguish, worrrying about getting pregnant after an event like that. But I onluy heard crickets. That's not right. I call reasonable person's reality bs.

I'm glad you brought up birth control. I thought of it a while ago, saw something shiny, and forgot to ask about it. It may have already been discussed and I just missed it.

Welcome to MDS!

[poorpaula]

Love this song.

sorry all newbie misfire. "little red riding hood song post." please forgive i'll get this down.

[mariposa1369]

Me too. And I do not believe they had vaginal intercourse, ever. Main reason I believe this has nothing to do with Jodi's quest for chastity. Not once have I heard Nurmi ask her about birth control. Not once, granted I have dozed off acouple times, so maybe I missed it. But especially if someone got you vaginally, first time every, while you were asleep......and taking into consideration Nurmi is hopefully trying to save her life....in the real world and Jodi's world, everyone would be focused on and highlighting the huge emotional drama and anguish, worrrying about getting pregnant after an event like that. But I onluy heard crickets. That's not right. I call reasonable person's reality bs.

I also think that Travis would not have been stupid like that and not used any type of birth control. He had a lot to lose if she got pregnant.

[poorpaula]

I'm glad you brought up birth control. I thought of it a while ago, saw something shiny, and forgot to ask about it. It may have already been discussed and I just missed it.

Welcome to MDS!

thank you!

It's hinky and huge def. blunder. Her fake rape might have gotten some legs if they hadn't missed this. To me it's like the bad guy picked up at work in a black and white. Never asks why, what's up, something wrong? ...because he already knows there is and what happened. They didn't bring up birth control, because it wasn't a possibility, which they know.

[Ian 1]

How does giving two passwords build trust?? All it does is feed more suspicion.

That's the kind of stuff that proves to me that Jodi was a stalker--trying to impose a connection on a person who just isn't interested.

Jodi: Tell me your passwords
Travis: What for?
Jodi: We have to re-establish trust between ourselves.
Travis: I don't want to trust you. I just want to shtup you.

[poorpaula]

I also think that Travis would not have been stupid like that and not used any type of birth control. He had a lot to lose if she got pregnant.

If it had really happend, there would have been up to 28 days of worry before finding out you dodged a bullet. Travis couldn't even get her to leave in that uhaul after giving her a bmw. She just kept coming back like a boomerang. Jeez, if she had been able to get anywhere near his sperm, she would have figured out a way to trap and lock him in with a baby.

[Obs3ssion]

If it had really happend, there would have been up to 28 days of worry before finding out you dodged a bullet. Travis couldn't even get her to leave in that uhaul after giving her a bmw. She just kept coming back like a boomerang. Jeez, if she had been able to get anywhere near his sperm, she would have figured out a way to trap and lock him in with a baby.

Very true. I hadn't thought about BC but I bet she'd been on the pill since she was 14 (or earlier). Maybe that's another reason he liked the anal and oral so much...no chance for her to wind up pregnant. Now that I think about it I'm actually shocked she didn't find a way to get herself pregnant by him.

Welcome to MDS, glad you're here :)

[Shahoolie11]

'You are the ultimate slut in bed"

'You will feel like you are being raped and enjoy every minute of it."

'You'll rejoice in being a whore, have animalistic sex with me and pleasing me in any way I desire.'


i don't think travis text this to her. i think she sent them to herself.

Exactly what I thought!! She had access to his phone, she had all his passwords. She could have written any text or email from his phone or computer... I think this is all such BULLSHIT. Some of these things are working out in her favor...some people may start to sway a little, since there's paper evidence of the things he supposedly sent her. MAN, Martinez has his work cut out for him... FUCK.

[morbidT]

Love this song.

sorry all newbie misfire. "little red riding hood song post." please forgive i'll get this down.

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[debk589]

If it had really happend, there would have been up to 28 days of worry before finding out you dodged a bullet. Travis couldn't even get her to leave in that uhaul after giving her a bmw. She just kept coming back like a boomerang. Jeez, if she had been able to get anywhere near his sperm, she would have figured out a way to trap and lock him in with a baby.

Most definitely. She would've "missed" her pill or poked a hole in the condom for SURE.

[wasthinking]

thank you!

It's hinky and huge def. blunder. Her fake rape might have gotten some legs if they hadn't missed this. To me it's like the bad guy picked up at work in a black and white. Never asks why, what's up, something wrong? ...because he already knows there is and what happened. They didn't bring up birth control, because it wasn't a possibility, which they know.

hi, not hinky at all. It's irrelavant because there is no pregnancy in this case.
She lived with Darryl for years so most likely she was on the pill anyway. She is a sociopath, wanting Travis to herself. Just her delusion of me and him traveling the world like in a movie.
That form of thinking doesn't lend itself to sharing with a baby.

[Shahoolie11]

I had forgotten how much I loved that song. *herps*

OMG....I totally forgot about that song....

I went to your house
Walked up the stairs
I opened your door without ringing the bell
I walked down the hall
Into your room
Where I could smell you
And I shouldn't be here, without permission
I shouldn't be here

So forgive me love
If I cry in your shower
So forgive me love
For the salt in your bed
So forgive me love
If I cry all afternoon

Whoa....

[Ian 1]

How will she explain ditching the weapons? If this were true self defense, after it happened she'd be FREAKED but cleaning it all up, ditching the weapons and then going to play doctor with her new boyfriend...come on.

Remember, she ditched the weapons when she thought she was going to get away with it. At that point she was prepared to deny that she had ever been there. She had a back up plan/story, in case she came under suspicion. Go right back to May 28, when she stole the gun from her grandparents. Obviously Jodi needed a gun to get Travis under control in the event he wouldn't take her back. She took the knife to cut him up close. Fast forward to Travis dying from stab wounds in the shower. Back up story was that an intruder had surprised them. No wait! Two intruders/ninjas--one with a gun, one with a knife. How to prove it? Shoot him in the head. That's evidence that shows there were two people, one with a gun and another with a knife. She probably worked this scenario out before she left Yreka.

Premeditation on stilts!

[Shahoolie11]

I had forgotten how much I loved that song. *herps*

HIIIII GUYS!!! Ahhhhh....been a long day - had to drive home after trial so sorry for posting so late. They are really strict with phones in there so I basically had my phone off majority of the day (aka- unable to keep up/post). Anyways, been on for the past 1/2 hour trying to catch up! You guys are too funny. And yes- you found me!

Ok I have lots to say but will give a summary - to start.

So-- had a quick chat with Martinez in the morning- he came up to a few of us that were waiting to get in. Basically, he told us that it's really hard sitting there through this part of the trial - defense questioning Jodi. He said this while shaking his head- you can definitely see the frustration. He shook all of our hands and we all told him a little something like how much we appreciate what he's doing, blah blah. He then said things should 'pick up soon'. Ahhhhh...I like him.

So yesterday the judge instructed us that we were to have NO facial expressions whatsoever, but today-there were no instructions. Uhhhh...ya...I'm pretty sure I took advantage of that. It's just so hard sitting there not wanting to roll your eyes, sighing, laughing at the BS, etc. I'm pretty sure I did all of the above at some point during the first half of her testimony today. I mean, really??? She was BURYING herself!!!

Ok-my observations by sitting in the gallery:

Jodi- CREEPY. No way around that - and that's the best way to explain it. She is frail and so plain and boring looking, but I immediately got a creepy vibe. I was pretty close to her (especially this afternoon) so I got a good look. I really can't explain it, but it still gives me chills thinking about it. Not exaggerating. She looks so EMPTY. I can definitely understand when people explain that she would stare right through them. Although she didn't look directly at me where I was able to gauge that, but I could still tell. It's just straight up weird. And it's not because I know what she did. The 'aura' is just there.

Jury- awwww man - I couldn't keep my eyes off them. They are pretty hard to read- they all stay very serious and look either at Jodi or at Nurmi. Back and forth, back and forth. There were a few that were regularly taking notes, and for the most part, the rest look like they're listening intently-with a few exceptions: yesterday while the sex tape was playing (which btw- how boring was that?! I was very unimpressed with their phone sex 'skills' lol) Anyways, at 2 points in the tape there was one young guy (late 20s/early 30s?) that was holding back laughter. It. Was. Awesome. Once while Travis was 'complimenting' Jodi's lady parts (AHAHAHA!) and the other time when Travis was singing the 'National Anthem'. I wanted to crack up too! He straight up dissed Jodi! Lmao. Anyways, I took that as a good sign- he obviously wasn't buying the humiliation BS. And then as I mentioned on Dr. Drew- about 1/2 hour into the tape, the jury looked irritated. Like it was a waste of time, they weren't moved, get on with the show. Today, they walked in all having the stoic look. They looked more tired than yesterday tho. I watched to see if any of them looked at Jodi (some did) and if they smiled at her (I didn't see any). Although yesterday, somebody else in the gallery told me they saw one of them smile at her because she was smiling at them (don't remember if it was a guy or girl). Anyways, they were NOT having it in the afternoon today. There was obvious annoyance, frustration and impatience when Jodi was looking through the text messages (lots of shifts and head tilts). After that first long break- they were basically done. By the third time Jodi was reviewing, there were sighs, slight eye rolling, swiveling in chairs, one guy whispered something to another and they both chuckled- and then lots of them started looking at the gallery I saw a lot of them looking at JA's family. Thought that was interesting. I thought all of that was a good sign. Got the feeling they're not digging all of the BS. They showed LOTS of annoyance with Nurmi, especially at a specific point when Nurmi said something like 'before I get into xxx, let's go back real quick to...' (I wanted to scream so bad at that point. Literally wishing I was watching the live stream instead so I could!)

BTW- during these long @ss breaks (wtf were you looking at Jodi?! Ho-lee shit!) all I could think of was the sarcastic-filled conversations that were going on here at MDS. If you happened to catch me smirking, that is definitely what I was imagining.

Couple more random observations:
Jodi's demeanor gets really lax when the cameras are off. I know we've all agreed she is acting up on the stand, but I am now confirming that. F-ing crazy @ss.

Travis' family is amazing. They all hold a very professional demeanor and they show there are there for business.

Jodi's fam notsomuch.

JM looks smaller in person. (Have I said yet that I really like him??? )

Nurmi looks smaller too. No, really. He's still big, but not ginormous like he does on TV.

Overall, I am SO glad I got to attend the two days. I am crazy for doing it- I won't deny that when people make fun of me- BUT I'm not the only one. Man oh man, I was hanging with some strange peeps today!

Oh- and still no jury questions in the basket!!

I know there's much more to share, but I'll start there. Any q's???

Can't wait for tomorrow! I'll be back here in the mrng to watch along with you all!

WOW!!! Thank you so much Missmandy9!!! That must have been a surreal experience! I'd love to go to the courthouse and experience the trial firsthand. I was very intrigued by what you said about Jodi's "emptiness" - I was curious if she had those dead "shark eyes" people always comment on, or if it was just the TV making her eyes look hollow and dead. Thank you again for the assessment!! Can't wait for Martinez to show us what he's got on cross!!!!

[Shahoolie11]

I had forgotten how much I loved that song. *herps*

Special Delivery V-day Candy for Stalker

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DixieChic]

Last night I saw Creepy Gus on Drew's show. He said Hoedi called him at 3am June 5th crying hysterically and told him she killed Travis. Did I hear that correctly?!? Why the hell didn't he call 911 and report this?!? He should be locked up for being a f'n creepy dumbass!!!

[Shahoolie11]

I wondered about the whole BCP/condom deal. WHAT IF.................that "doctor appointment" she had.........was an abortion that Travis made her get??? I'm just SAYING. I know it's a bizarr-o off the wall theory, but I'm not counting ANYTHING out at this point. Maybe he gave her a grand worth of cash and told her to take care of it...and the checks she wrote him, paying him in installments for the abortion payment or something? I don't know...I know that would be totally against his morals and religion, but they weren't exactly living by the code. I can see something crazy like THAT driving her psycho-ass off the cliff. Making her destroy the life they created together. That's a huge motive. Don't mind me if I sound insane, this trial has got me crazy beans!