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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Close friend of #JodiArias, Bryan Carr visited Jodi last weekend. @jvelezmitchell interviews him on how his friend is doing at 7PM. (4pm west coast)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Sorry everybody. I only got some of the recap. Justice is doing the full recap, so make sure you give her plenty of love for her hard work.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bermstalker again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Not going to the Emergency Room for treatment of an injury "because I had no insurance" is absolute B.S. Is it not a federal law that hospitals are obliged to treat anyone who presents themselves in an emergency and worry about collecting later?
    Yeah, but you still owe them money and they charge a lot. So that part is not unbelieveable. In fact, it's probably a more likely reason why she would not get an injury treated.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    Believe me Andrea toblerone not THAT good

    I agree. I'm more of a reisen girl myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Yeah, but you still owe them money and they charge a lot. So that part is not unbelieveable. In fact, it's probably a more likely reason why she would not get an injury treated.
    It's a minor injury really. Something that could be cared for in a doc in the box..a minor medical clinic...cheaply. Unless the injury was due to slicing her finger while trying to decapitate a boyfriend.

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    here it is the video w/ florez when she show her cut ring finger from bartending and it is still purple
    starts at around 1:30


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    oh wait - i mean cut from the ninja

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    Quote Originally Posted by So and So View Post
    True story: my dad moved to Antarctica after he and my mom split. No shit.

    The strange thing, I do believe small parts of her story. I can see him saying that when she wouldn't leave him alone. He was messing with serious crazy. Unstable crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronsmommy View Post
    All you have to do is look at the youtube video of her singing in jail and see her hand/fingers are fucking fine.
    Yep. here it is


    although I don't believe the caption for the video

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    her new bf is going to be on JVM and dr drew said he has a friend of jodi's coming on w/ a message from her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    her new bf is going to be on JVM and dr drew said he has a friend of jodi's coming on w/ a message from her

    Doesn't Jodi only have that one girl for a friend? You know, the tacky one with all the tattoos in the courtroom those few days?

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    Update on afternoon Testimony 2/11/13

    Jodi lies about Travis being a pedophile and abusing her.

    Back from break, counsel please approach.
    Jodi has black jacket on. (Hoping she leaves it on so I don't have to see that horrid little bow on her sweater. At the beginning of the day she had it on and took it off quickly as soon as the jury entered.)
    Ha, jury enters, jacket comes off. Pa-the-tic.
    Argument with Travis about John Dixon. This was the argument during the famous "back pack" repacking. "It wasnt make-up." Seriously Jodi, no one cares. She was crying. She brushed her teeth.
    Supposedly Jodi repacked a journal, Travis read it.
    Objection from Martinez.

    Jodi realized that Travis was not the kind of guy she wanted to marry because he said "fuck you." (Anal rape is okay, but saying fuck you was too much? Yeah right.)
    Travis called John Dixon "John Dickhead." (Oh the horror.)
    She did't want to go on trip. She stayed in bathroom to calm down. Suddenly they are all in the car in the garage getting ready to drive off.
    Objection overruled after Nurmi led Jodi....again.
    Her feelings were hurt. She felt an "emotional chasm" between them.
    Nurmi says "let's move back"....everyone at MDS has a heart attack because Nurmi is a douche.

    Late 2007.
    Jodi said Travis pushed her down in his bedroom and she landed on her knees. (I'm confused, is this still the "backpack argument"???) Nurmi is being a douche again, objection. Sustained, then objection again, overruled. (I HATE Nurmi.)
    Approach because Nurmi seems to think if it is not being offered for the truth of the matter Jodi can say anything and lie all she wants to.
    (Martinez is getting fed up. So am I.)
    When Travis pushed her down, he said "no, five times fast." She was not allowed to leave according to Nurmi. She tried to leave three times...Travis let her leave and he did not try to stop her. (Why does any of this matter.)
    Travis called her names. She does'?t remember all the names, but she remembers him insulting her family. Objection.
    Travis said her brother was a faggot because his name was Carl. (huh???)
    (Jodi's lies DO NOT make sense.)
    Travis said Jodi's grandfather is also a faggot for being named "Carl." Jodi is crying about this. (LMBO. She is really hoping that someone on the jury is gay and that they will hate Travis. What a dumb strategy. Probably Nurm's idea.)
    Lots of yelling. She can't remember everything (yeah right, that?s a new one.)

    Nurmi want's to know why this wasn't the last day she saw Travis.
    Jodi says it was going to be, but Travis followed her down to her car yelling at her and said, in an artificially friendly voice "I have a great idea, how about you move to Antarctica and never call me again." She said, "Minus Antarctica, sure." (This is such a third grade argument, I can't take it. She is so obviously making this crap up.)
    She got into car and started to close the door and Travis slammed the door hard after he leg was in the car. She drove away. She thought that they were not ever going to talk again.
    (Wait, didn't she just say right after the argument that they went downstairs in the garage and got in the car to leave? Now she is adding this whole other scenario in. Hmmmm, Daniel never mentioned ANY of this. Or is this another time altogether?)

    Jodi says this was a low point for her, she was feeling suicidal. (Me thinks that she or her attorneys realized that she can't say she felt suicidal suddenly in jail if she never felt that way before.) She decided she wanted to go through with it. She called her friend Matt (aka Matt the LIAR McCartney) because he had guns. She was going to ask if she could borrow a gun to kill herself with. (Maybe she didn't get the gun from her grandparent's after all, maybe she borrowed one from Matt the LIAR?)
    Matt supposedly called a suicide hotline and her dad, and her parents.
    Travis called her while she was on the phone with Matt. She wanted to talk to him in case Travis wanted to apologize. Travis was very friendly and apologetic and wanted her to come back....and help her make his bed. (WTF?) The sheets had been washed and were out of the dryer (WHO CARES about the freaking sheets.)
    Travis wanted her to make the bed so they could have sex. Nurmi throws up the french maid outfit photo and ask if Travis requested this outfit again. (LOL, Nurmi, you are NOT Martinez. Give it up! A french maid outfit is not equivalent to a slashed throat. What a loser.)
    Nurmi has a LONG dramatic pause, to let the french maid outfit soak in. LMBO. Jodi starts crying. (hahahahah, seriously, you can't make this crap up.)
    She is saying no while she is turing around to go back to Travis. Nurmi wants to know why she turned around. (Duh, Nurmi, she wanted buttsecks.)
    She said she turned around because she felt like a "writhing ant under a magnifying glass for the last three hours." He relented and was nice and talked in almost a baby talk way, so she went back to his house. They made the bed and they had sex. Anal sex that night. (I soooo called it!) (Ummm, is Daniel and his sister still sitting in the living room all this time? Awkward.)
    It was anal sex, but it was "kind of loving"...he whispered he loved her in her ear. Jodi looks down sadly. Nurmi has another long dramatic pause.

    Nurmi asks about incident earlier (please no....not earlier again Nurmi!)
    Nurmi asks if she remembers an incident talked about earlier, when Lisa Andrews was at Travis' and she walked in. She said yes.
    Was that around this same time period? Jodi said yes, right after they were in New Mexico.
    After trip to New Mexico, they are acting as a happy couple in New Mexico, Nurmi puts up photo of Jodi and Travis with hot air balloon in background.
    Jodi starts rambling about honey chicken (I can't even...too many dumb details. God help me.)
    She called John (Travis' roommate???) and asked if he wanted honey chicken, he said yes, you can't refrigerate it, etc, etc. etc.
    She admits she came and went in Travis' house without knocking. John told her Travis was not there, to come on over with the chicken. Jodi comes into the kitchen to get a plate, sees Travis and another woman in the kitchen and she was "mortified." She turned around and left because she was "really embarrassed" because she thought he wasn't home. She then gives all the details about driving, going west, turning here, etc. (Kill me now please.) (Also, what about the chicken Jodi??? What happened to the chicken? How can she just leave us hanging without giving us ALL the details about the chicken. Did she take it with her? Did John eat it. Did Travis and -gasp- Lisa eat it???)

    A car came up behind her with the high beams on. She didn't know who it was. (More dumb driving details.) The car pulled over the double line, pulled in front of her and slammed on the brakes. She then noticed it was a purple BMW (purple? really?) and knew it was Travis. He pulled in the turn about, she pulled in behind him. Travis and Jodi discussed it. He said a girl from his ward was there and wanted to see his house, so he gave her a tour. He gave her a hug and squeezed her butt (more butt squeezing, really Jodi?) and asked her if she was coming over later. To Jodi this meant that she was coming over for sex.
    Nurmi says "after Travis' date with Lisa, you were supposed to come over and have sex with him, right." Jodi says yes. Long dramatic pause from Nurmi. (He really wants that Oscar.)

    (Part two coming right up)

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    Part two (afternoon 2/11/13)

    Back to late 2007. (I feel like we will NEVER leave 2007.)
    She is having sex with Travis, but not vaginal, so much. Nurmi wants to know why not having vaginal sex. She said she confided in Rachel and wanted to know what Rachel thought about her sex life. Rachel freaked out and said they have to go see bishop, go now, wear a seatbelt. LOL.
    Nurmi said, "so, to make a long story short." (yeah, too friggen late for that a-hole) Jodi said SHE didn?t want to have vaginal sex because of the law of chastity.

    January 2008. Thank God. Finally in 2008.
    Nurmi wants to know what happened in Jan 2008 that changed the relationship. Martinez wants to narrow a specific date and time down. Nurmi wants her to just have free rein to say anything she wants. Council approach. (I feel like the judge is going to call it a day soon.) Nurmi has to ask her if she remembers the date "it" occurred and where. It was in Travis' bedroom, on a Monday, around Jan. 21st.
    Objection. Martinez wants a time. LOL!

    She got off work (lots of dumb details) she went to his house, they hung out. He disappeared in attic and then jumped out and scared her. Handed her an angel statue and called her an angel.
    She left, realized that she left angel, Travis would make her feel guilty about leaving it, so she went back to go get it. She called, he didn't answer. She went into his bedroom without knocking. Travis was on bed masturbating. She was really embarrassed. It was awkward walking in on him. She asked if he needed her help. He grabbed papers off his bed. She saw a photograph that fell on the floor....it was a picture of a little boy. Long dramatic pause from Nurmi...again. Little boy was about 5 or 6, she did not recognize him. Little boy was wearing underwear in photograph. After she saw this she was frozen for a minute and didn't know how to react. She left the angel there on the dresser and turned and left. Travis calls her name and tells her to wait. She just left and drove away. She says she felt nauseated by what she saw, she was afraid she would puke in car. (Travis' brother looks like he wants to murder her. So do I.) She barely made it home before she threw up in the bathroom. Travis kept trying to call her after this. After she threw up she saw that he called her on her cell phone 3 or 4 times.
    Nurmi wants to know why this wasn't the end of the relationship with him. She said she was confused and crying and didn't know what to think. She went for a drive because she was afraid he would come over to her house. She went to the temple visitors area to meditate and figure out what to do next and how to handle it.
    She couldn't imagine never talking to him again because she would feel "unsettled." She wanted to let him explain. She got a frantic voice mail from him begging her to come over to his house and talk to him.
    Nurmi again asks why after she "sees him masturbating to the image of a child," why she couldn't imagine not having any more contact with him.
    She heard in the past that people who do that might have been hurt in the past (lots of fake tears), it upset her to think maybe he had been hurt in the past.
    Jodi called him back. They agreed to meet up and swap cars for family home evening (what????) Travis was going to family home meeting "same day he got caught masturbating to images of children." (Nurmi has now said this three times. I hate him soooo much.)
    She had a headache and went home.
    She went to his house later and they talked. Travis did the talking. Nurmi wants to know what he said, Martinez objects. Nurmi asks to approach.

    (I bet the judge wants to recess for the night soon. I'll be surprised if it isn't right now. This is such torture for Travis' family. I hate that they have to listen to all these lies.
    Oh, Jodi is fake crying again during this approach. Give it up.)

    And we are back...judge is surprising me.
    Nurmi just said for the fourth time "Travis was masturbating to the image of a child."
    Nurmi wants to know what Travis told her. Martinez objects. Judge sustains...finally.
    After her conversation with Travis she came away "with the understanding" that Travis had a sexual interests in children. She believed he had an interest in young boys. Also young girls, "sexually mature girls, but minors." (I've "come away with the understanding" that Nurmi is a dick.)
    Nurmi wants to talk about that in a minute. (Whatever douche."
    She "came away with the understanding" that she could help him with this problem. Her "understanding" was that he preferred sex with woman because it made him feel "more normal." In this conversation she found out that the reason that Travis wanted her to wear little boys underwear because of his sexual desires with little boys. (I. Hate. Her.)

    After this discussion Jodi had anal sex with Travis. (And he is the one who is supposed to have the problem????)
    She was willing to have anal sex because Travis seemed ashamed with himself and like he didn't want to be that way. He struggled with it. He was trying to deal with it. When he had sex with woman he felt normal. She also believed him to be normal. (huh?) She had anal sex with him to "help him." (I can't even....is she really saying all this??)

    Nurmi wants to know if she did anything else to "help" him. She said yes, before she moved back to CA, she gave him a pamphlet about mental health services, free and affordable, that could help him. (Jodi, please meet kettle.) She gave him the pamphlet in mid to late March.
    Jodi said Travis was upset when she gave him the pamphlet. They argued. It started verbal and then became physical. (yeah riiiiiight.)
    Nurmi brings up him grabbing her wrist again, she said this incident was in April...and that he had been physically abusive before that.

    Nurmi wants to back up....(Lord help me.) Jodi said Travis grabbed her wrists (1st incident,) then pushed her down (second incident) and the third incident is after she walked in on him. (She is all over the place. She makes no sense.)

    She was going to California. She went over on Jan 22nd (day after she walked in one him masturbating.) He wants to borrow $200 from her. She had just lent him $699 dollars, so she could not loan him the money. She kind of snapped, but not really, because he reacted bad in the past when she snapped. He called her selfish. If she couldn't afford to loan him more money she should work more shifts. They argued and then he walked across the room and grabbed her, shook her, said "I'm fucking sick of you" and screamed at her so loud that some spit got in her face. He then body slammed her on the floor at the foot of his bed. This didn't hurt her, only startled her. (oh the lies!!!!!) She "yelped." He said don't act like that hurt, called her a bitch, kicked her in the ribs, went to kick her again and she went to block, so he kicked her finger. Her left hand. She screamed really loud, yelled "my finger." Travis stormed out of room and went downstairs. She rolled over, set up, and was holding her finger. It was starting to swell up. She peeked around corner, heard door bell and was listening to see who it was. He sent whomever it was away and started back upstairs. Her "anxiety shot through the roof." Travis was calm now and wanted to see her hand. He was not yelling. He was calmer, but snappy. She let him look at her hand. Specifically her ring finger on her left hand. She did not seek medical attention for this "injury" because she did not have medical insurance and was afraid of the police getting involved. Travis made a splint out of broken popsicle sticks and tied it on her finger.

    Nurmi wants to know why she didn't call police. She would never call the police on Travis because it would have felt like "treachery." She was "loyal" to him. She was loyal because she didn't look at him as a bad person, just someone with his own issues. She made him promise he would get help for his issues.

    Nurmi wants to know about splint. Was finger broken? Jodi thinks it was. Nurmi wants to know if the injury is still visible to this day. She said yes, it is crooked. Nurmi wants her to hold up finger. She does. LONG pause from Nurmi. He wants to know how she feels about injury. Objection. Nurmie said it goes to "state of mind of battered woman's syndrome." (Oh no he didn?t. If anyone was battered, it was clearly Travis. Jodi is just a skank whore who LIES!) Judge said approach. Recess soon?? Nope, I'm shocked again. Judge says you may proceed.

    Nurmi has Jodi hold finger up again. (Pa-the-tic.) Seeing her finger reminds her of the incident. She tries not to think about incident because it is unpleasant. Are you scared when you think about that day? Jodi says she does not go that far in her mind when she thinks about it. She wishes she would have handled it differently. She wishes she would have made a record of these things. And that it would not be so wonky and feel arthritic.
    Nurmi leads MORE AND MORE....he said, "you didn't want Travis to get in trouble." Objection, overruled. After Nurmi's leading Jodi says she didn't want Travis to get in trouble and she didn't want anyone to know. Nurmi leads and says "you were embarrassed that he beat you up." She said yes. Nurmi says "shamed" and "shame" about a hundred times trying to lead her to say she was ashamed. Nurmi is asking if she was happy, if she wanted to shout it from the rooftops. She said no, she felt very "ashamed." (Finally, she said it, Nurmi must be so happy.) She said she always felt that woman in these situations, like this it was partially their fault. (More fake crying.) She felt like she was "that thing" that she used to judge because she was now one of those people.

    Recess. Thank GOD. Berm, I don't know how you do this. You are amazing.
    I'm sorry for any typos...too much to proofread.
    Last edited by Justice11; 02-11-2013 at 07:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Doesn't Jodi only have that one girl for a friend? You know, the tacky one with all the tattoos in the courtroom those few days?
    or donavan -

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    The strange thing, I do believe small parts of her story. I can see him saying that when she wouldn't leave him alone. He was messing with serious crazy. Unstable crazy.

    I agree. I keep hearing his friends talk about how he was glad she moved back to Nor Cal. He wanted her to GTFO!

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    Justice that was a GREAT recap. I'm glad you got it all because I missed almost 30 minutes of the good stuff.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Justice11 again.

    Yes, it is hard to recap. Nurmi jumps all over the place. He goes forward, then wants to jump back. He's still not as bad as Palin, tho. She's a bitch to recap.

    I have a huge feeling it's going to be hard to recap JM when he starts questioning Jodi.

    Anyway, Great job and thank you.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Justice11 again.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to bermstalker again.

    TY!! i don't know how you guys do it - i am just sitting here in complete shock still!!!!

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    Apparently I really like you, Justice11, because I can never seem to give you any more rep!

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    she lied! and nurmi subpoenaed perjury just based on john dixon and her previous testimony!! why is this being allowed!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    The strange thing, I do believe small parts of her story. I can see him saying that when she wouldn't leave him alone. He was messing with serious crazy. Unstable crazy.
    You hit it! That's what liars do. They anchor the lie to a tiny truth then embellish around it with the fabrication. It helps them remember what they said. They get caught when the questioner probes for details surrounding the event. Watch Martinez in action. He's an expert at it. I hope the jury gets it.

    Bye the way, when Nurmi asked one of his last questions, "What type of Sex?" I shouted at my computer, "Anal Sex!" Two seconds later, JA, answered "Anal Sex." Her answer was right out of the well-written script.

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    Why did the judge allow Nurmi to just about testify today? He was literally putting the words in JA's mouth (not the worst thing that's been in there).

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    I'm trying to catch up on all the comments. LMBO!! You were all saying the exact things I was thinking.

    Welcome new folks!!!!!!

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    JVM just said "the sky's the limit when you let a pathological liar take the stand"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    The strange thing, I do believe small parts of her story. I can see him saying that when she wouldn't leave him alone. He was messing with serious crazy. Unstable crazy.
    Same here. there are bits of truth interwoven with lies. same as when she was telling Flores the ninja story

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    is any one an expert here??? iambatman - raven somebody??? does a pedo like little boys and girls and have sex w/ women to avoid their homophobic fears and pedo fears?? and don't have any porn on the computer or any pics or magazines in their house, not even any toys to entice kids to his house??? and do not work in any youth groups or any group that puts them in contact w/ children???? - and rape the very sound asleep gf???

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