Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Justice11]

i think its the bullet casing - i keep running into statements like this in time lines and case recaps

"blood on the ground exhibt #114 reddish brown substance there - casing is there #1 -top of casing have any blood on it? no! objectcion - overrulled - approach!"

there was a pic of the casing w/ one of those yellow cards w/ numbers way back - but i can't find it now

Hmmm, that might be it. The evidence numbers at the crime scene do not necessarily correspond with the evidence numbers referred to in the court records....or do they??? What could be secretive about the casing I wonder? If anything is even secretive at all. I may be reading too much into it.

[Harlette]

So very well said.

Maybe this is what makes me so passionate about this case.
My father was killed by being shot when I was two months old. He was only 19 years old. I know almost nothing about what happened. Only what my mother has told me. Her details are vague. Her version of events is ridiculous, to say the least. It involves my father being shot five times through a door that he was pounding on. The man who shot him supposedly didn't mean to kill anyone and was afraid my father was going to break the door down. My father was a huge man, 6'4" and over 200 lbs. I have a hope that someday I am able to look into it and find out what really happened.

My mother always paints my father in a bad light. She alludes to petty crimes and possible drug use. Also claims he was physically violent with her. I take everything my mother says with a grain of salt.

Bottom line for me is that I'll never know what kind of man my father would have turned out to be. I never got to know him and he never got to know me. He will never see his grandkids. He never had a chance to lead a "good" adult life because his life was ended way too soon. In honor of all that he will never have I chose to name my son after him.

[Missmandy9]

Hey guys- been 'lurking' all weekend and keeping up on this thread as best as I can, but been way to busy to post which is why I've been 'silent' since Friday. Happy to finally be able to post again. Loving the discussions you all have been having! I just wanted to pop in and say I'm SOOOO looking forward to tomorrow and can't wait to be watching and participating on this thread at the same time. Like some of you here, I am able to watch while I'm at work...stream on my comp and plug in the headphones. (And HATE when somebody comes up to my desk and 'interrupts' me! Damn work. Hehe.) Ok- time to get some rest so I can be awake and alert enough tomorrow to multi-task! Thank you all for the entertaining discussions over these last couple days...

[Missmandy9]

Yup- I remember this. He said the defense should rest by the 11th. So much for that estimate!

[Missmandy9]

Damnit- sorry guys! My above post was meant for this:

Didja miss me?? Been gone all weekend but still kept up with reading or else I'd be lost for sure!

I think I recall Wormi stating he would be done with his witnesses by Feb 11...does anyone else remember hearing this?

Must. Sleep. Now.

[Poppycock]

sorry i'm behind but has this been posted before sorry if it has.

A recording of Travis Alexander in one of the last speeches he ever gave.

To listen, please scroll to the end of the article.

http://www.cshughes.com/travis-alexa...rnardino-2008/

I just listened to this recording of Travis speaking at a seminar - thank u rachy- it is an audio link at the bottom of the page. I was multitasking while listening, but had to go back cause i heard Travis say the words "rough up, rape, sex, murder -" he was quoting a 50 Cent song at about 38 minutes - very shocking and ironic to hear him utter those words.

[Poppycock]

Thanks for info Justice and Chelsey:

LE = law enforcement

Rafael Columbo = Budget car guy, vividly recall his sweater and hair but was a credible witness i thought

Everyone get ready for tomorrow,10:30 start, lunch at noon, back at 1:30, recess at 4-4:30 is likely schedule, plan accordingly! AZ time.

[Karlita]

Aww! Well at least you have a system down so you can still catch the trial! If it's a busy day, sometimes I'll just catch bits and pieces and then go to YouTube to watch the full trials from croakerqueen123. She has all of them, in case you want to hit that up some time! Can't wait for this to start back up tomorrow!

Thanks Shahoolie11 for that info. I ususally come on here too and between the awesome members recaps and all the posting I get pretty much what went on that I missed and what all was discussed by y'all too. That is the best part the commentary....LOL
Everyone enjoy the trial today and will see you this afternoon. I am sure it will be JA on the stand all day with considering we were only on Valentine's day of oh dang cant even remember the year!!! LOL anyway later.......

[Karlita]

i don't remember him saying she did it in 1 slice so i might or might not be 1 slice - but what he did say was there were no hesitation marks

Yes he did say no hesitation marks I remember that also so however she did it she never stopped just kept going. I also take interest with the wound on the neck that he said the right carotid artery and right side of the jugular were cut thru, my opinion is that this would be consistant with a left handed person standing over someone from behind and you would by nature go over to the right side to slash that type of wound and the right side would be deeper also kind of losing the cut as it approached the left because positioning of the hand. I also think his throat was cut as he was approaching the bedroom from the hall and I feel he was probably so weak that he was probably trying to crawll drag his way there by this point and then she just reached down and pulled his head back. Wonder how many more days of her lying testimony we have to listen to before the man JM gets to go at her!!

[bermstalker]

I agree with ChelseaDawn about the carpets in AZ, I have never seen one of those metal dividers used here. I also did not see one in the crime scene pic. I think what we are seeing is the baseboard and the object, whatever it is, is too big to be a foot.

That's what I discovered going thro all the crime scene photos-before and afters. There are no metal carpet dividers in Travis' house. That dragging picture is the white baseboards. Also, the pictures show the carpet tacks that were there when the police removed the carpet. Travis' carpet from the bedroom that is connected to the bathroom tile (hallway) was rolled under. There were no room divider. Thanks to Tawnidilly for the wonderful pictures inside the house. They are very clear pictures.

[Karlita]

you can't get azcentral.com??? They have a live feed and they're just a news channel, so I can't imagine why your work would block it.

I do graphic design and marketing, so I'm lucky enough NOT to be on the same computer system as anyone else in our firm. They have a lot of restrictions - any social media, youTube, forums...etc. I have to access so many websites for my job, that I get to be on a non-monitored computer with no blocks. Which means I can watch/listen to the trial without detection. Its the little things that make me happy!!!

It is this sight I cant get at work MDS, azcentral freezes my computer and so I found wildabouttrials and that one works for me. Get to listen on headphones of course and occasionally sneak a peak at what is going on. I work in a hospital so they block a lot. Sometimes I am a little surprised at things I can get into and then some non threatening I cannot. Go Figure huh! Anyway happy Monday all starts 12:30 p in my area.

[Karlita]

That's what I discovered going thro all the crime scene photos-before and afters. There are no metal carpet dividers in Travis' house. That dragging picture is the white baseboards. Also, the pictures show the carpet tacks that were there when the police removed the carpet. Travis' carpet from the bedroom that is connected to the bathroom tile (hallway) was rolled under. There were no room divider. Thanks to Tawnidilly for the wonderful pictures inside the house. They are very clear pictures.

Looking forward to your recaps when I get home this evening. Thanks for all you do to keep us who cant see or watch all day in the loop. Love the way you put things and for taking the time to do that for us!!! You make me LOL when I am reading the recap with your words interjected in it.....

[Karlita]

Hey how come I have been posting then I just did one and it said it is in moderation....damn and I though I was all good now!!! Guess my clearance lever isnt high enough LOL

[Karlita]

Hey how come I have been posting then I just did one and it said it is in moderation....damn and I though I was all good now!!! Guess my clearance lever isnt high enough LOL

Huh that one went right thru...oh well Hi Ho Hi Ho it's off to work I go....Have a great day all and will be in here tonight. May not be able to post trying to catch up but will be reading it all for sure. Hope this proves to be an informative day and not just a drawn out few hours of that bitch reliving an afternoon minute by mintue by minute and so on and so on!!!

[Shahoolie11]

Hello everyone. Another newb here. I've been following this and the Morgan thread since early November and finally got enough beer in me about a week ago to hop on this crazy train. Figured I'd say hello before things get revved up tomorrow.

Welcome TupeloHoney!! This is a fun place to be - but it's even more fun when playing Jodi drinking games! Prepare for the forum-storm today!

[Shahoolie11]

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Whoa....this video is eerie as hell...especially when I saw the pigtail braids, and Fiona hiding in the closet.

[Shahoolie11]

did you see this?

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/...02/09/1905101/

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!??!?!?!??!???!?!?!?!??! O...M....G........ I am seething with rage right now............. I hate this whore. What a greasy, sleazy, dirtbag thing to do!
Can she drag this poor victim's name in the mud any more??????? I just want Travis's sisters to be allowed just 2 minutes in a room alone with her. Cannot believe the judge allowed this shit.

[Shahoolie11]

and this

http://www.inquisitr.com/517643/jodi...to-young-boys/

Don't you think....if Travis was a pedophile, and into all this kiddy-porn, they would've found SOMETHING....ANYTHING on his computer??????? JESUS!!
*I need to take some deep breaths....*

[jlydia]

this is behind it


or the better pic

I'm confused. Jab a the Hut runs a website?

[Shahoolie11]

lol! i don't know if this video story translate well into 2013 - it kinda of reminds me of a stalker episode from criminal minds

Ahhh yes.... LOL - the 80's were just so full of romance. It's the only time in America, where stalking could be portrayed as hot. Just like The Police "I'll Be Watching You"....CREEPY!!!!! *shiver*

[Shahoolie11]

I'm listening to the last speech Travis gave before he died. In it he says "The only change you can count on is the changes you decide to make. And as long as you are putting your life into someone else's hands nothing is going to change." (its at 9:45 on the audio)

Its sad to sit here and listen to him talk and make people laugh and have such a great time knowing what horrible things happen to him a month later.

I felt the same way...chills ran down my spine. Just ONE MONTH before she killed him. This whole case just makes me want to burst into tears, whenever I see the crime scene photos, or that slide show his friends and family put together in his memory. Total waterworks. Poor Travis.......let's just pray this guy gets some goddamned justice in the end!!!!!!

[jlydia]

yea i don't either - maybe this will help us

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Harlette again :)

[Shahoolie11]

Thank you for this. I have been reading through some of your posts and thoughts. I do have a question. When the hunky ME was testifying, did he state whether the wound on Travis' neck was a clean slice or was this sawed through? I cannot imagine the strength that it would have taken to cut through the neck in the manner in which she did. Is it just that she had an extremely sharp knife or that rage was fueling her or both?

Hi dianalyn!! I'm not sure if your question was for me or Nyx276 - but it's a Very good question!! Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but I believe the ME said the wound was due to a knife being stabbed into the side of the neck (he wasn't sure if it was a left to right or a right to left direction) and sliced through. Due to the stage of decomposition, the skin flaps on either side of the slice, had sort of "wilted" and when he tried to press the two pieces back together, the slice didn't give him a solid picture as to whether or not it was sawed or sliced -- but DEFINITELY with an extremely sharp object. Maybe this is how Jodi cut herself...inflicting this fatal wound on Travis. However, I agree with you...this one wound in particular has my head spinning. Seems SO angry and powerful, how deep it was...I realize when individuals are hyped up on adrenaline, in some cases, they can lift a 2,000+ LB vehicle, so, I guess you never know. Mixing Jodi's psychopathy, adrenaline and rage for Travis, I guess she had a LOT of strength behind those stringy arms. So brutal and disgusting. I think you've got the right idea with this though! (Sorry if your questions was not directed at me!) :-)

[Shahoolie11]

i don't remember him saying she did it in 1 slice so i might or might not be 1 slice - but what he did say was there were no hesitation marks

That's right!!! "No hesitation marks" I forgot about that!!!
Thank you Harlette!

[Shahoolie11]

So very well said.

Maybe this is what makes me so passionate about this case.
My father was killed by being shot when I was two months old. He was only 19 years old. I know almost nothing about what happened. Only what my mother has told me. Her details are vague. Her version of events is ridiculous, to say the least. It involves my father being shot five times through a door that he was pounding on. The man who shot him supposedly didn't mean to kill anyone and was afraid my father was going to break the door down. My father was a huge man, 6'4" and over 200 lbs. I have a hope that someday I am able to look into it and find out what really happened.

My mother always paints my father in a bad light. She alludes to petty crimes and possible drug use. Also claims he was physically violent with her. I take everything my mother says with a grain of salt.

Bottom line for me is that I'll never know what kind of man my father would have turned out to be. I never got to know him and he never got to know me. He will never see his grandkids. He never had a chance to lead a "good" adult life because his life was ended way too soon. In honor of all that he will never have I chose to name my son after him.

OMG Justice11!!!! I am so sorry about this....thank you for sharing your story. I am in such admiration of everyone opening up in this forum...the vulnerability and the devastation is beautiful in a way. It reminds me that there are really good people out there...who have suffered such losses. Jodi is another person, who has added to good people's misery and loss. We need to rid the world of scumbags who take our loved ones away. It angers me to learn about other people's hurt...I am deeply and sincerely sorry for the loss of your father at such a young age. It's completely UNFAIR...you should have had your father in your life. Fuck it makes me so sad and sick when I think about the losers out there...killing for no reason!! SENSELESS!!!! Anyway, I'm going to give myself a stroke, if I don't tone down my emotion & passion for everything! LOL - This case hits close to home for all of us on different levels. Mine (much like others in this forum) comes from a place of being previously abused and mistreated by an ex boyfriend...choosing to stay, and let him use me when it was convenient for him, and shutting my mouth and staying away without complaint, when he was done with me, or annoyed by my presence. It went on for way too long...and I was too blind and thought I was in love, to stop it. Did I ever seek revenge? NO! Did I ever hurt him in return?? NO! Sure I felt jealousies, and I knew he was seeing multiple women at a time, while using me in the process...but I was so pathetic and had such disregard for my own being that I allowed it to go on and on. I knew one day, when I finally cut all ties with him...that karma would bite him in the ass. One day, people who hurt others, will get theirs. I just feel that to be true... Anyway, I'm rambling. I just wanted to thank you for your awesomeness, and openness... We're all here for you, and we're all together through this horrific journey during trial.
Let's just hope Jodi, "gets hers" in the end...