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    From that crazy j.a. is innocent site:

    In light of the latest events, I wouldn"t be surprised if there was some kind of child porn ring in operation? possibly even at the Hughes's home...where both TA and Chris Hughes were both actively involved (and others). This is probably another reason why Hughes is making such an effort to cover for TA (and trying to blackmail "Mr X")? and subsequently has so much to lose in every sense of the word.
    The anonymous proxy surfing... 12 year old girls in pigtails... boy's underwear... little girl's costumes... and now TA masturbating over pics of young boys?
    Could it be any clearer?
    The door has certainly been opened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    From that crazy j.a. is innocent site:

    In light of the latest events, I wouldn"t be surprised if there was some kind of child porn ring in operation? possibly even at the Hughes's home...where both TA and Chris Hughes were both actively involved (and others). This is probably another reason why Hughes is making such an effort to cover for TA (and trying to blackmail "Mr X")? and subsequently has so much to lose in every sense of the word.
    The anonymous proxy surfing... 12 year old girls in pigtails... boy's underwear... little girl's costumes... and now TA masturbating over pics of young boys?
    Could it be any clearer?
    The door has certainly been opened.

    Those people are insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    From that crazy j.a. is innocent site:

    In light of the latest events, I wouldn"t be surprised if there was some kind of child porn ring in operation? possibly even at the Hughes's home...where both TA and Chris Hughes were both actively involved (and others). This is probably another reason why Hughes is making such an effort to cover for TA (and trying to blackmail "Mr X")? and subsequently has so much to lose in every sense of the word.
    The anonymous proxy surfing... 12 year old girls in pigtails... boy's underwear... little girl's costumes... and now TA masturbating over pics of young boys?
    Could it be any clearer?
    The door has certainly been opened.

    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    Those people are insane.


    Oh good grief, what is wrong with those people? Insane or just plain nasty people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    From that crazy j.a. is innocent site:

    In light of the latest events, I wouldn"t be surprised if there was some kind of child porn ring in operation? possibly even at the Hughes's home...where both TA and Chris Hughes were both actively involved (and others). This is probably another reason why Hughes is making such an effort to cover for TA (and trying to blackmail "Mr X")? and subsequently has so much to lose in every sense of the word.
    The anonymous proxy surfing... 12 year old girls in pigtails... boy's underwear... little girl's costumes... and now TA masturbating over pics of young boys?
    Could it be any clearer?
    The door has certainly been opened.

    Perfect example of the ridiculous dribble that is posted on that hate site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    From that crazy j.a. is innocent site:

    In light of the latest events, I wouldn"t be surprised if there was some kind of child porn ring in operation? possibly even at the Hughes's home...where both TA and Chris Hughes were both actively involved (and others). This is probably another reason why Hughes is making such an effort to cover for TA (and trying to blackmail "Mr X")? and subsequently has so much to lose in every sense of the word.
    The anonymous proxy surfing... 12 year old girls in pigtails... boy's underwear... little girl's costumes... and now TA masturbating over pics of young boys?
    Could it be any clearer?
    The door has certainly been opened.

    Whoa, I hope Chris sues her.

    And there wasn't any proxy surfing, the guy said under oath it was a video. Geesh doesn't she know the difference between a browser and a video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    Oh good grief, what is wrong with those people? Insane or just plain nasty people?
    Probably a little of both!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfenderbender View Post
    Couldn't it be from cutting the inside of her fingers with the bloody, slippery knife? When she was still on the ninja story with Flores, she shows him the wounds and tells him she no longer can get a ring on that finger because of the cut she got in the struggle with ninja woman.

    These wounds are why her blood is mixed with his in the palm print.
    Did you notice how Flores almost needed a magnifying glass to find ONE little mark? She had her prints taken in June, the 22 or 26, around there. I'm sure if she was sliced up it would have been noticed then at the police station and shown on the prints taken. When Flores shows her her palm print (she has a few deeply defined linesl) they come out real clear in the blood print and her police prints... but she looks, then blurts out without thinking, "I don't have any cuts! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyx276 View Post
    So on the subject of that shower pic that's of Travis looking into the camera, do you remember when Jodi commented to Flores that one was a great photo? It's got me thinking again about the chain of events before Jodi starts her biggest lie about what happened.

    I think he was forced to sit at gunpoint when the pic was taken while she told him off, expressing her power over him. Remember her big complaint to Flores about jail was that she felt "powerless." I think she got Travis where she felt like she finally had the upper hand, after nothing else worked to make him fully be hers. That's why this picture was meaningful to her.

    I think then she tried to shoot him but the gun jammed just like she claimed happened in her ninja story. I think he lunged up at her out of the shower and knocked the camera away as it took a pic of the ceiling. Probably knocked the gun away too. Then she got her knife from wherever, probably her pocket, andstabbed at him blindly at first while he used his hands to defend himself. She then hit him in the heart (I suspect she was aiming for it after the first few cuts, it would obviously incapacitate him and it is also symbolic of Jodi the eternal victim). After the heart stab he was swiftly weakened to the point of not being able to defend himself as strongly. He probably grabbed on to whatever was around he could steady himself on, the sink; he bled over it while she started stabbing him in the back, head, anywhere she could hit. She must have been in a rage-panic. Possible at this time: He fell and went down onto his back. She fell back herself in the process and hit the camera button with her foot, where it took the next pic of him on the floor. If this was the case, the blood shown in that photo is coming from stab wounds, not throat slashing.

    With one last huge surge of strength to knock her aside, he gained a few seconds to pull himself up or crawl into the hall, falling against the sides of the walls and smearing them with blood as he got weaker with the exertion. With how low the blood smears are on the wall I think he was crawling or almost crawling. He collapsed at the end of the hall (or she knocked him to the ground; he was weak and she was all adrenaline). I think he fell face down and she pulled his head back and slashed his throat while she was crouched over him. But she could have rolled him over and slashed his neck that way (god, looking at his face while she did it..... cold murdering bitch). I think he died right there quickly. I hope fiercely that he was unconscious immediately and felt no pain.

    She started to freak out over the blood everywhere (remember she said to Flores early on that she heard there was a lot of blood involved, implying it had an impact on her) and thought if she got him back into the shower she could clean things up. She took the sheet off the bed because it was easier and cleaner to wrap him up in something. Possible here instead: as she was starting to move his body, she stepped back and hit the camera, which had been kicked into the hall by one of them in the struggle. The camera took the pic of her standing over him and the blood was coming mainly from the throat slashing. I think this is more likely than the pic being taken in the bathroom, but I haven't looked at the timing of the photos to see. She wrapped him in the sheet and started to lift him, steps back AGAIN and hits the camera with her foot where it took the final picture of the hall baseboard. At some point in the hall sshe braced herself against the wall and left a palmprint. The hair found could have been ripped out at any point during the stabbing.

    She got him into the bathroom and before she heaved him into the shower, she shot him in the head. Why? Did she feel after that horrendous struggle for his life that she needed to show she was powerful again (likely IMHO)? Did she mistakenly take post-death convulsions for signs of life (also likely IMHO)? Or was she thinking that she could stage it like a break-in, and then gave that idea up as she tried to clean the mess?

    Regardless, she got him into the shower and probably also got into the shower (!!!) with his body to wash herself off. Then she dressed and tried to mop the blood up with towels, the sheets, and cups of water before realizing that it was fruitless and she needed to get out of there. She must have realized that the camera still had photos on it from earlier in the day, so she deleted them. I think she intended to take the camera with her along with the weapons, but accidentally scooped it up with the bloody sheets and threw it in the wash. Wasn't the bedroom torn up like someone looked for something in a hurry? She grabbed her stuff (including the KY!), made sure she had the weapons and her bloody clothes with her. Put up the dog gate just in case the dog started sniffing around, locked the door, and booked. I do think it is possible that the roommate came home while she was there, maybe just as she was ready to leave, and she may have snuck out. But she could have done the shoddy cleanup she did in a fast-paced half hour. She had to have parked down the street earlier in the day so as not to be seen.

    I think she waited until she was well out of AZ and then burned the clothes somewhere in the desert. Tossed the gun and knife, maybe into a river. She didn't show up at the next guy's house until like 12 hours later so I suspect she had an adrenaline crash and was sleeping it off somewhere - the car? A cheap cash motel? Were the red stains in the car Kool-aid or blood? I imagine eventually she tossed the floor mats after realizing they had some incriminating substance on them.

    Being that she's a narcissistic monster and probably let him have it verbally while he was at gunpoint in the shower, I think the expression on his poor face is questioningly fearful, maybe a little indignant or shocked. Maybe "I should have followed my instincts" or "I should have listened to what other people were saying" crossed his mind, or maybe he just thought she was fucking with him. With how much she loves to talk about herself, I cannot imagine that she just attacked him without telling him why first. It's all about her after all.

    I think she planned to shoot him in the shower where things would stay tidy and end quickly ("humanely," as she said in her interrogation). I wonder about the knife. I feel like she had the knife so she could stab him in the heart like a symbolic act. Her stalking behavior after all was filled with symbolism, dates, power plays, etc. and that's only what we know so far. I'm not so sure she would have stabbed/slashed if the gun had worked. But I could be wrong.

    TL:DR - JM's final argument is going to be awesome if he can finally put together all of the steps that happened that evening, because we're all probably almost right about what happened but don't quite have it all figured out. And I need to go to bed!
    Amazing Nyx276!!! I agree with everything you stated. VERY, very well put. I think that's the way it went down, I hope some day...we get this verified.
    FUCK JODI!!!! Thank you for your assessment!!

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    The photo on the court screen is lighter than ones I've seen before. I'm not so sure that's a foot, looks like it could be a blood run to me in this one.


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    I can finally see something in that picture!
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    It still looks like a foot to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    It still looks like a foot to me.
    My ignorance is showing, WHERE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    My ignorance is showing, WHERE?


    You can see the seam on the pants. There is a vertical stripe on the pants. I can't tell if it's a shoe, or a sock, or a sock over the shoe, but I totally see the bottom of the yoga style pants. You can also make out a zipper on the back.

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    A foot in a black sock. I see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    It still looks like a foot to me.
    Every time I see something now with this pic or 'feet'... I can't help but hear Martinez "if that were a human beings foot, would you have any problem saying that perhaps this human being had another foot if they were a normal human being "
    OMG I was dying I laughed so hard. Martinez and stabbing that court reporter and squats himself. I had tears, those are keepers. The ME deserves a medal for keeping a straight face on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post


    You can see the seam on the pants. There is a vertical stripe on the pants. I can't tell if it's a shoe, or a sock, or a sock over the shoe, but I totally see the bottom of the yoga style pants. You can also make out a zipper on the back.
    I can't tell, they've enchanced it so much it's pretty grainy. Here's the other shoe / sock one, is that an eyelet on there?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    My ignorance is showing, WHERE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post


    You can see the seam on the pants. There is a vertical stripe on the pants. I can't tell if it's a shoe, or a sock, or a sock over the shoe, but I totally see the bottom of the yoga style pants. You can also make out a zipper on the back.

    I thought it was the sheet or blanket she was dragging him on. It looks folded over to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeLosMuertos View Post
    A foot in a black sock. I see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Every time I see something now with this pic or 'feet'... I can't help but hear Martinez "if that were a human beings foot, would you have any problem saying that perhaps this human being had another foot if they were a normal human being "
    OMG I was dying I laughed so hard. Martinez and stabbing that court reporter and squats himself. I had tears, those are keepers. The ME deserves a medal for keeping a straight face on that one.
    I promise I'm not being difficult. I just don't see a foot. I don't see anything in those 3d pictures that your supposed to stare at and something else appears. Nothing ever appears for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Lady View Post
    I thought it was the sheet or blanket she was dragging him on. It looks folded over to me.





    I promise I'm not being difficult. I just don't see a foot. I don't see anything in those 3d pictures that your supposed to stare at and something else appears. Nothing ever appears for me.
    Oh Crazy, I never for a second think you difficult! psst, I never saw a foot. The prosecutor wants one there though. I always thought that was a pretty drawfed deformation for a foot but now lighter, that looks like blood to me. Done his ride side and onto the floor possibly under him too.

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    oh and forget part


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    So....another lurker who just had to join & give thanks to all of you! This place is great....love the humor splashed in with all the seriousness....it's great!
    Prob. Will still just read mostly, as what I have to say has been said a million times over.
    This chick is a whore, used her looks & ass to get what she wanted and when someone wouldn't play her game she freaked! I know some jodi's or have known throughout life.....none of them have killed though. All of them have a story, abuse etc.... whatever....fry her ass! Can't wait for cross....not only to see Martinez to put her ass in it's place....but to read everyones take on it here as well!
    Thanks for having me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    oh and forget part

    or geez thats suppose to say arm not are!

    welcome lurker girl!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Oh Crazy, I never for a second think you difficult! psst, I never saw a foot. The prosecutor wants one there though. I always thought that was a pretty drawfed deformation for a foot but now lighter, that looks like blood to me. Done his ride side and onto the floor possibly under him too.

    Thanks!

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    oh and forget part


    Quote Originally Posted by LurkerGirl View Post
    So....another lurker who just had to join & give thanks to all of you! This place is great....love the humor splashed in with all the seriousness....it's great!
    Prob. Will still just read mostly, as what I have to say has been said a million times over.
    This chick is a whore, used her looks & ass to get what she wanted and when someone wouldn't play her game she freaked! I know some jodi's or have known throughout life.....none of them have killed though. All of them have a story, abuse etc.... whatever....fry her ass! Can't wait for cross....not only to see Martinez to put her ass in it's place....but to read everyones take on it here as well!
    Thanks for having me!!
    Welcome Lurkergirl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LurkerGirl View Post
    So....another lurker who just had to join & give thanks to all of you! This place is great....love the humor splashed in with all the seriousness....it's great!
    Prob. Will still just read mostly, as what I have to say has been said a million times over.
    This chick is a whore, used her looks & ass to get what she wanted and when someone wouldn't play her game she freaked! I know some jodi's or have known throughout life.....none of them have killed though. All of them have a story, abuse etc.... whatever....fry her ass! Can't wait for cross....not only to see Martinez to put her ass in it's place....but to read everyones take on it here as well!
    Thanks for having me!!
    Welcome.
    I was watching part of last week that I missed this morning Meanie Travis took her out to eat and the movies! What abuse! hurrrumphhh. I called my grandson who kind of follows this case and said, omg, you have to watch this video ... we are going to have to shut down the AMC, MGM, Sundance, all of them, it's abuse.

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    Oh & the pic....looks to me like a shoe...a small type tennis shoe like puma's or something of the sort!

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