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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I suspect she took cut and paste from Travis diary.
    Spot on. It could have been Travis' actual handwriting, but digitally manipulated to say something other than what it originally said.
    If she had stolen his actual journals as reported early on, the person who fabricated the letter had a lot of source material from which to work.

    It's unlikely she did it herself, because she was behind bars in 2010. There are conspirators on the outside, and they need to be found and exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    OMG! You poor thing..... What a HORRIBLE experience to go through! I'm sorry you had to live through such an experience, but I am glad you LIVED through it!! You're here, you're stronger because of it...and my guess is...you're a LOT more selective and guarded when it comes to picking a companion, which is never a bad thing!!! Thank you for sharing your story...you're a good example of a smart person who take the appropriate action in bad times. You were responsible and you got yourself out of it. Props to you!

    This is what pisses me off about the Jodi being a victim of abuse theme...what kind of "expert" is going to come in and testify that she's truly a victim of a lifetime of pent up abuse and mistreatment from EVERY single person she crossed paths with??? Either she is able to tell the expert exactly what they need to hear, in order to diagnose her as a victim of abuse, or they're all just going to blatantly lie under oath. This is what angers me about our justice system. There's no fucking way to prove Jodi is lying on the stand!!!

    Thank you. It was a pretty trying time in my life, but I was lucky to get out of it. I know there are people who have gone through much worse than I have.

    I shudder to think about Jodi's "experts". I can't watch it. Just more vicious lies and accusations that will be leveled against a victim who has no ability to defend himself. I really can't see anymore lies and dragging Travis through the mud. I can only wait and hope for a devastating cross-examination by the prosecution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    All science is "theory". Gravity is a "theory".

    You are right in that the sequencing doesn't really matter. Whether the throat was cut at the end of the hallway or later after she dragged him back to the shower, in either case, she slit his throat from ear to ear and right down to the spine. That is irrefutable.

    BUT... I find it disturbing when someone who is not a scientist and doesn't have specialty in an area (like blood evidence) and hasn't examined a crime scene thinks that they know better than people who are specialists and have examined a crime scene. I honestly hope that the jury does not think this way. This is the kind of thing that destroyed the Casey Anthony case.



    Thank you.
    lmao, sorry zeezee but if you think gravity is a theory, I dare you to jump of a high bridge. That is so funny.

    The judge pretty much slap the def hands telling them the seq doesn't matter. That was fun to watch.

    Can't insult me lol, I know enough to know, you can't slice liquid. ME's aren't gods to me, and I don't look for idols. ME's make mistakes, or even lie just like any other human being. Turned out for whatever reason this one fits right in there. He had to admit oops, the brain wasn't liquid after he said it was. Oops the brain he said was non existant was suddenly there. He sliced it and weighed what he said didn't exist.

    I think some people just have trouble accepting anything that isn't like minded with them. I don't however feel that way. I find murders disturbing, but posters? That too dramatic for me. I learn a lot from others views and they make me think. I love when anyone questions anything! It means they are using their own brain cells. We can't all be Henry Lee's spitting ketchup. Or whats his name breaking Caylee's little skull.

    No offense but if you believe the Anthony jury did any thinking at all, I'd argue that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    I think she is! Truly, I think she's loving it. Even when they show the pictures of Travis slashed throat she can't wipe the smirk off her face.
    I think so she is so proud of her as she is wearing her #1 mom necklace in the courtroom
    - Beauty is a beast.

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    Here is another link to documents where Jodi threatens to drag Travis through the mud if she doesn't get a 2nd degree charge.

    Hope this works!


    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...riasngfile.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    her husband looks like breaking bad!!!
    I don't know what that means.

    But, I wish I knew that family. I'd advice them to hold hands, put his arm around her, her lay her head on him nonstop affection.. hell hold the sisters hand too!
    All the things that would turn KILLER absoluately green since she has a straight view of them from the witness stand. Be good to get that obsessed brain twirling in madness making her forget her placecard in her own lies. ")

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Thank you. It was a pretty trying time in my life, but I was lucky to get out of it. I know there are people who have gone through much worse than I have.

    I shudder to think about Jodi's "experts". I can't watch it. Just more vicious lies and accusations that will be leveled against a victim who has no ability to defend himself. I really can't see anymore lies and dragging Travis through the mud. I can only wait and hope for a devastating cross-examination by the prosecution.

    I guess the quote is true: "What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger." It's a lesson you learned the horribly hard way. And It upsets me to no end, that Travis never got to learn that same lesson and be careful who he let into his life and his home in the future. His future is OVER. It's so sad. Regardless of whether or not he was fucking with Jodi's head, having sex with her whenever it was convenient for him, being nice to her when he wanted a piece of ass, then snubbing her in public, dating other chicks, but still flirting with her on the side, etc. REGARDLESS...he didn't deserve to be brutally murdered, he didn't deserve to have all his chances in life, taken away from him. His future with finally falling in true love, marrying his future wife and having children with her. He doesn't get shit. Jodi doesn't deserve to get shit either. You hit the nail on the head, he's a victim who's not around to defend himself. He has no voice. That's why I'm happy that Martinez is such an aggressive and passionate attorney. Let's hope that when he cross-examines her, he doles out his aggressive style in waves... he takes it more gentle with her, then goes full-throttle, then pulls back a little...then hammers it home. I want her to fucking break down and cry at some point. Not because she has the capacity to even FEEL anything...but because he corners her in all her lies. Sociopaths play on the emotions of others, by producing crocodile tears when cornered. I haven't seen her actually SHED ONE TEAR during the trial. I see her wiping her face with tissue...but I see no red or puffy eyes, I don't see the grimacing face that goes along with sobbing, and I see no wetness around her eyes. She's cold. But I want him to reach something inside her empty heart. Panic. Fear. Anything! She stirs some craziness up inside me!!!! I can't take any more of the lies on the stand. So, those experts better be legit. If not, Martinez has his psychoanalyst who has already completed her assessment of Jodi's mental state. For fuck's sake. I need to get a life. LOL!!

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    I wish I could post pics and video! WTF!!! I have no permissions....

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    wouldn't they close the case to the public and hide the names of the young ones or sexual victims? one of the talking heads said they are not allowed to broadcast sex crimes cases, i'm sure that that would extend to this, or at least that portion of the testimony.

    aren't pedos usually surrounded by children? they work as priests, pediatricians, teachers, janitors at school, coaches... i can't think of any point during my following of this case where i even thought that travis had any interest in being around children, period. he seemed too self absorbed and ladder climbing to want to hang out with kids. this is so left field.
    The old court show carried the entire Kennedy rape case. TH heads talk out their ass, I never listen to those circus barkers.


    Pedos, it just is not that narrow. Myth beliefs long outdated . Pedo isn't a crime of sex!
    I am sad when I see how many don't make it a point to learn about it. It is imo our only battle to stop it before it starts or beaware. Anyway, they come in all professions and 'preferences'. Some like to hang around children for easy prey, some like the challenge of 'selecting' out one and so on. One thing to know is they do tend to have age groups, just like Sky asked right off the bat. It has to do with the body forms. The one that is driven to toddlers for instance, probaby won't go after teens etc. Some prefer one specific sex, others could be married to the opposite sex and still prefer the same sex for pedo.

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    Still reading and trying catch up..just saw transcripts I think it was JVM & they were talking about day the erection pics were up on all the monitors and computer screens. This case isn't funny but my Lawd that had to be a site with all the peenies up everywhere and no safe direction to look..I guess you can find some degree of comic relief in some cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    It's funny how so many people have such a different impression of that pic-anger, scared, startled, serious sexy pose. It's no wonder our day to day body language and non-verbal communication gets so lost in translation!
    I want the ones that see sexy to lie their ass off and not let the def see they won that Jodi posing tale. I bet Nurmi has spys all around. I swear I can see him smirking every time I see someone say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    lmao, sorry zeezee but if you think gravity is a theory, I dare you to jump of a high bridge. That is so funny.

    The judge pretty much slap the def hands telling them the seq doesn't matter. That was fun to watch.

    Can't insult me lol, I know enough to know, you can't slice liquid. ME's aren't gods to me, and I don't look for idols. ME's make mistakes, or even lie just like any other human being. Turned out for whatever reason this one fits right in there. He had to admit oops, the brain wasn't liquid after he said it was. Oops the brain he said was non existant was suddenly there. He sliced it and weighed what he said didn't exist.

    I think some people just have trouble accepting anything that isn't like minded with them. I don't however feel that way. I find murders disturbing, but posters? That too dramatic for me. I learn a lot from others views and they make me think. I love when anyone questions anything! It means they are using their own brain cells. We can't all be Henry Lee's spitting ketchup. Or whats his name breaking Caylee's little skull.

    No offense but if you believe the Anthony jury did any thinking at all, I'd argue that one.
    Uh-oh. Are you a creationist? You're confusing theory with hypothesis, nay, guess.

    I didn't pay attention to the CA trial, but didn't they not even have a COD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    she was saying they went to that "body" art exhibit that was touring at the time, where the art was real cadavors preserved to see inside called body world http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,669680,00.html
    She also told Flores in one of those sessions, her and Travis were looking at some anatomy thing on the computer. He got bored and walked away. but 'I liked it and kept looking" .



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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Here is another link to documents where Jodi threatens to drag Travis through the mud if she doesn't get a 2nd degree charge.

    Hope this works!


    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...riasngfile.pdf
    thats it ty! she basically is trying to blackmail the state into making them settle - i can't imagine travis' families strength to go ahead w/ this trial?? you know that martinez prolly went over all of this w/ them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis View Post
    Uh-oh. Are you a creationist? You're confusing theory with hypothesis, nay, guess.

    I didn't pay attention to the CA trial, but didn't they not even have a COD?
    I do get confused from time to time, but the one thing I am not confused about is gravity, I know if I jump I'm not going to get to hear Juan rip into Jodi. lol
    No cause of death on a skeleton.

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    Jodi is a liar. I was reading through the documents and saw where the detectives have/had a bunch of her diaries. Maybe she can "recall" so many stupid details about things because she wrote entries about the stuff in her diaries and probably re-read them over and over because she's so narcissistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    nurmi tried like hell to withdraw from this case but the state wouldn't let him
    victoria threw nurmi under the bus stating that since he no longer worked for the firm, the request doesn't affect him.
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    "Say, you know who could handle this penis? MY MOTHER."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    Spot on. It could have been Travis' actual handwriting, but digitally manipulated to say something other than what it originally said.
    If she had stolen his actual journals as reported early on, the person who fabricated the letter had a lot of source material from which to work.

    It's unlikely she did it herself, because she was behind bars in 2010. There are conspirators on the outside, and they need to be found and exposed.
    You are right, made me remember something. seeing an order on the court mins ordering someone, Sky maybe, to turn over all of Traivs' journals. Unless, there were more than what his killer stole?
    "Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    I guess the quote is true: "What doesn't kill us, makes us stronger." It's a lesson you learned the horribly hard way. And It upsets me to no end, that Travis never got to learn that same lesson and be careful who he let into his life and his home in the future. His future is OVER. It's so sad. Regardless of whether or not he was fucking with Jodi's head, having sex with her whenever it was convenient for him, being nice to her when he wanted a piece of ass, then snubbing her in public, dating other chicks, but still flirting with her on the side, etc. REGARDLESS...he didn't deserve to be brutally murdered, he didn't deserve to have all his chances in life, taken away from him. His future with finally falling in true love, marrying his future wife and having children with her. He doesn't get shit. Jodi doesn't deserve to get shit either. You hit the nail on the head, he's a victim who's not around to defend himself. He has no voice. That's why I'm happy that Martinez is such an aggressive and passionate attorney. Let's hope that when he cross-examines her, he doles out his aggressive style in waves... he takes it more gentle with her, then goes full-throttle, then pulls back a little...then hammers it home. I want her to fucking break down and cry at some point. Not because she has the capacity to even FEEL anything...but because he corners her in all her lies. Sociopaths play on the emotions of others, by producing crocodile tears when cornered. I haven't seen her actually SHED ONE TEAR during the trial. I see her wiping her face with tissue...but I see no red or puffy eyes, I don't see the grimacing face that goes along with sobbing, and I see no wetness around her eyes. She's cold. But I want him to reach something inside her empty heart. Panic. Fear. Anything! She stirs some craziness up inside me!!!! I can't take any more of the lies on the stand. So, those experts better be legit. If not, Martinez has his psychoanalyst who has already completed her assessment of Jodi's mental state. For fuck's sake. I need to get a life. LOL!!
    I agree.

    I was watching the video someone posted a few pages back, with bits of the interrogation in it. At one point, something is said that I can't recall, and Jodi puts her head down and it sounds like she is sobbing. I'm willing to bet there were no tears.

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    hahahah I could watch Juan in this segment every day!

    http://<iframe width="640" height="3...reen></iframe>

    If my first try at putting in a video doesn't work, try this @2:52:14 http://youtu.be/1tZKYBlfkxI

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    I want to know more about Matt McCartney. On the Jodi is innocent site he says he is in the public eye and he wanted to stay out of the case to protect his family. Are there pictures of him from Jodi's myspace? Also, wasn't Matt's name mentioned when they were questioning Creepy Gus or old Darryl? I think Matt is involved in some way.

    What's the deal with her maintaining friendships with all her ex-boyfriends? When I ended relationships, I never wanted to see their face ever again, let alone conversate or ask for favors. Especially if they cheated on me or abused me. It's almost as if she needs a backup guy on call at all times. She never completely lets one go. I think she considered her relationship with Travis to be more intimate than what it actually was.

    I would bet money she had her gun and knife in the bathroom and when the last pic of him, with him on the floor of the shower and the shower door open, she was threatening to harm herself...and then she let him have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Reading some more court notes tonight and once again Matt McCartney's name came up.
    This is what it said:
    CR2008-031021-001 DT 05/25/2011
    For the reasons set forth on the record,
    IT IS ORDERED denying the Motion to Compel the Notes of Detective Flores.
    The parties are advised to arrange an interview of Detective Flores by Defense counsel.
    Argument is presented regarding the Motion to Compel any and all materials related to the attempted interrogation of Matt McCartney.
    IT IS ORDERED granting the Motion with regarding to notes.


    Does anyone know anything about this Matt guy? His name keeps coming up.
    Here is something I posted on 1/29/13.
    Last edited by Justice11; 02-09-2013 at 03:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Something is up with the defense witness Matthew McCartney.

    I was reading some of the court minutes dated 8/10/2011 and I saw this:
    "Advisory Counsel, Victoria Washington addresses possible issues with witness, Matthew McCartney as stated on the record."

    Is Matthew McCartney the reason Victoria Washington was eventually replaced?

    Also this:
    I was reading on the awful site "Jodi Arias is innocent" a while back and there was a post from someone only identified as mm (at that time) and this is what he wrote:"mm says:
    January 3, 2013 at 6:29 pm
    Jason, I like how direct you are. What am I?

    1. I am a man with a family who comes first. Yes even before Jodi.
    Your right Jason they will pay for the plane ticket but nothing else. My job may not be waiting for me when I get back. My first obligation is to my family.

    2. I was asked if I would lie for Jodi. I said yes. So yes, that makes a me liar. That?s probably why they haven?t called me.
    "The above is found in the comment section on this page :http://jodiariasisinnocent.com/jodi-...s-is-innocent/

    This was written in response to someone who asked why he wasn't testifying for the defense. Later, the site reposted his comment with a title of Matt McCartney (comment re-post) http://jodiariasisinnocent.com/matt-...i-arias-trial/ , thus identifying mm as Matt McCartney.

    So...the defense has a witness on their list who has said on this website that he would lie for Jodie. I'm surprised the idiots at that website haven't deleted those posts yet. I took screenshots in case they do.

    What do you all think? Who is this Matt McCartney guy?
    I also posted this on 1/29/13.
    Last edited by Justice11; 02-09-2013 at 03:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Here is another link to documents where Jodi threatens to drag Travis through the mud if she doesn't get a 2nd degree charge.

    Hope this works!


    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...riasngfile.pdf
    very interesting read ty

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