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    I can't keep up with the story unfortunately.
    But I did hear about the whole little boys and Travis situation and I have to say I feel SO sorry for the family of Travis, especially because this is such a worldwide case that people are following and hearing all this information that isn't looked upon in a good light.

    The family has tried so hard to make him into an angel and nothing less than perfect at the very beginning of all this, and Jodi keeps trying to make up excuses that may or may not be true about Travis(most likely not true for all accounts) just so she doesn't seem guilty.

    No one wants all this kind of demeaning information out about a relative, son, or friend and Jodi needs to just give up with all the different stories because she is giving Travis such a bad name.

    Then again, I have barely caught up with the story in the slightest, so I don't really know Travis, but I feel bad that all this demeaning information has gone worldwide for the public to view Travis as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfenderbender View Post
    anything is possible; how do you explain him getting to the end of the hall if his throat was already slashed? no one's going anywhere after that; it was only connected by the spine. and you believe the bullet came first, right?
    huh? His throat had to be last, that I agree. sorry if I haven't been clear. In the shower, I meant LAST in the shower. We know she drags him there. Lkie I said before, he could have been weak or even in and out of it and she could still bebable to drag him with little to no fight left in him. Moaning and with a damn he still isn't dead? she makes one more deep slash ear to ear.
    His arm is slightly lifted in the drag pic. Either him half out of it in a weak attempt but too slaughtered to put up much, or her lifting his arm to position him to drag, whatever. I can't see the stabs that should be on his back neck in that drag pic. Could be a bad pic, or, could be they weren't done yet.
    I just don't think the only theory is the one the prosecution is trying to sell as the only one and fear his is too limiting.

    Yes, I believe the bullet was first. Like she adds to the ninjas --the gun jams. I remember Columbine kid shot twice in the head, frontal lobe and he crawled to and out the library window!
    http://vimeo.com/5416436

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    Man oh man...I can't wait for Monday to get here. I never thought I'd say that. Plus...if I'm being honest here, I miss Jinkasaurus.

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    This is from the FB memorial page as well.

    Chris Hughes
    OK, so I have been pretty quiet through this trial?so far. We have decided to not do any media until after the trial is over. We had no idea how hard that commitment would be to keep as we had underestimated the attack that would be made on Travis. But we made it, so we will keep it. That said, there are a few things I need to clear up that are floating around on the net?..

    IT (Jodi), being IT, came up with a whole new set of lies in 2010. Lies, I would imagine, she is going to try to work into this trial, as she fights for her life. I didn't think she would attempt to do this as there is no evidence as to the validity of these claims. There are only letters conjured by IT that were thrown out of court and deemed "fraudulent." I just figured she, and everyone on her team, had given up on these ridiculous claims until I read the posts below:

    "It also makes you wonder just how much Chris & Sky Hughes really knew about TA?s child addiction (and the physical/verbal abuse he inflicted upon Jodi in private). Remember Sky?s initial reaction to one of TA?s letters too, where she specifically referenced TA?s age of attraction?" and "(& subsequent cover-up of TA?s abuse & child porn-related issues) by Chris & Sky Hughes."

    UNBELIEVABLE! Are people really this delusional? This info is from fake letters?too fake even for the National Enquirer to run with! That is saying something! Some of you heard me call Nurmi a liar. It was related to these claims. He had LIED to my wife. He emailed her a letter, telling her it was "100% verified to be Travis' writing" and that there was "irrefutable evidence" backing up these claims. #1- It's near impossible to verify something 100%. AND it is absolutely impossible to even come close if there is no original (which we later found there is not). #2- There is no, and never has been "irrefutable evidence" to back up these claims. He totally lied! Sky's reaction to what Nurmi sent her had ZERO to do with Travis and his character, and EVERYTHING to do with Nurmi's lies and manipulative tactics and her experiences working with sexually abused kids. The ONLY reason Sky even went there, as far as Travis was concerned, was because Nurmi told her there was "irrefutable evidence," and to us, the only thing irrefutable would be video tapes. We had NO IDEA that it was legal for the defense attorney to lie about evidence to try to sway someone's testimony (we had been subpoenaed to testify in a hearing the following week). Unbelievably unethical in my opinion.

    I just wanted everyone to be aware of this, because I'm guessing Jodi, being the shamelessly evil person she is, is going to make these asinine claims! Here is what we know about Jodi? and it is truly "irrefutable." Jodi lies?and lies? and lies? it's just what she does, and who she is. She has done it from the beginning, and we can expect more of it until this trial is over. To expect anything other than lies from Jodi would be naive at best. Travis is not, and never has been, a pedophile. And only the most despicable of human beings would accuse someone of being such, knowing they are not. There is nothing worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfenderbender View Post
    not being snarky about the bullet, i really don't know, think it could be first or last...
    oh no I didn't take it snarky at all! It's all just talking to me. I'm not emotionally attached any more than I would be any murder. None of us can know really. I'm fine with not knowing a lot. Most murders don't write a perfect movie for us or a jury. My fear is always, too many in our society have grown to expect it all drawn out perfect like a one hour CSI and they get called on jury duty.
    Add to that the law is not "just" or a search for the truth. Jodi can bring in all this BS, but the prosecutor can't bring in any old thing even if it's true. Take the too prejudical rules. WTF, if it's true tough, it should come in. It is unfair, unjust, complex, never easy, and our laws only grow to support the criminals 'rights' without growing more 'rights' for the prosecution.

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    This is not the first time that Arias claimed that Alexander was attracted to children. Arias produced letters she claimed were written by Alexander after she walked in on him while masturbating. Martinez denounced them as forgeries; a handwriting expert said they could have been written by Alexander, but they were not admitted into evidence because they were copies, not originals.
    Hmmm...this is different from what I've been led to believe...

    Jodi Arias is also claiming that Alexander admitted in the letters that he was a pedophile. But, according to Cobb, the prosecutor's office was able to show the letters were not all they were alleged to be.

    "They did a scientific examination of the letters and concluded they had been forged," Cobb told The Huffington Post.

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    i'll bet advocate martinez is pleased as pie about all of this. she's really digging a hole around her. this is like some bizarro trial or something. none of it makes sense.











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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    Hello everyone! I'm FINALLY emerging from my dark, creepy, lurker shadows to join this fantastic forum. I've been reading the comments every day since Day # 1 of trial. You all are fucking hilarious!! Because of this bitch hodi, I have zero social life - but I'm so damn invested in this case now! I have SOOOOOOOOO much to say about it...but I'll take it slow. Anyway, Jodi is a rotten cuntwhorebagslutfuckshithead. I hate her and I hope she spends her afterlife licking the very depths of satan's farthole...What a twat. Sorry for all the profanity!!!
    Happy to be here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggrrl72077 View Post
    This is from the FB memorial page as well.

    Chris Hughes
    OK, so I have been pretty quiet through this trial?so far. We have decided to not do any media until after the trial is over. We had no idea how hard that commitment would be to keep as we had underestimated the attack that would be made on Travis. But we made it, so we will keep it. That said, there are a few things I need to clear up that are floating around on the net?..

    IT (Jodi), being IT, came up with a whole new set of lies in 2010. Lies, I would imagine, she is going to try to work into this trial, as she fights for her life. I didn't think she would attempt to do this as there is no evidence as to the validity of these claims. There are only letters conjured by IT that were thrown out of court and deemed "fraudulent." I just figured she, and everyone on her team, had given up on these ridiculous claims until I read the posts below:

    "It also makes you wonder just how much Chris & Sky Hughes really knew about TA?s child addiction (and the physical/verbal abuse he inflicted upon Jodi in private). Remember Sky?s initial reaction to one of TA?s letters too, where she specifically referenced TA?s age of attraction?" and "(& subsequent cover-up of TA?s abuse & child porn-related issues) by Chris & Sky Hughes."

    UNBELIEVABLE! Are people really this delusional? This info is from fake letters?too fake even for the National Enquirer to run with! That is saying something! Some of you heard me call Nurmi a liar. It was related to these claims. He had LIED to my wife. He emailed her a letter, telling her it was "100% verified to be Travis' writing" and that there was "irrefutable evidence" backing up these claims. #1- It's near impossible to verify something 100%. AND it is absolutely impossible to even come close if there is no original (which we later found there is not). #2- There is no, and never has been "irrefutable evidence" to back up these claims. He totally lied! Sky's reaction to what Nurmi sent her had ZERO to do with Travis and his character, and EVERYTHING to do with Nurmi's lies and manipulative tactics and her experiences working with sexually abused kids. The ONLY reason Sky even went there, as far as Travis was concerned, was because Nurmi told her there was "irrefutable evidence," and to us, the only thing irrefutable would be video tapes. We had NO IDEA that it was legal for the defense attorney to lie about evidence to try to sway someone's testimony (we had been subpoenaed to testify in a hearing the following week). Unbelievably unethical in my opinion.

    I just wanted everyone to be aware of this, because I'm guessing Jodi, being the shamelessly evil person she is, is going to make these asinine claims! Here is what we know about Jodi? and it is truly "irrefutable." Jodi lies?and lies? and lies? it's just what she does, and who she is. She has done it from the beginning, and we can expect more of it until this trial is over. To expect anything other than lies from Jodi would be naive at best. Travis is not, and never has been, a pedophile. And only the most despicable of human beings would accuse someone of being such, knowing they are not. There is nothing worse.
    thanks

    I am sorry but, Chris and Sky are responsible for their own QUICK to believe (a def atty at that!) reaction. WTH were they even talking to him for. Why so quick to believe to even respond with such damaging comments? WHY not wait and forward to the prosecution, ask if there is any truth to this.

    Jodi is a POS but, they have resonsibilty they need to take on this too. I don't care what my line of work is, I would never jump to tell a defense atty 'we knew he had issues" about my "best friend". Thanks but no thanks, I wouldn't even want a friend that would fall that fast for BS. Sadly, they can't unring the bell now that the jury heard his own 'best friends' ready to believe the worst so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    Hmmm...this is different from what I've been led to believe...
    One of Juan responses on those letters, well worth the read :)

    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...riasngfile.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    One of Juan responses on those letters, well worth the read :)

    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...riasngfile.pdf
    wrong link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    Hmmm...this is different from what I've been led to believe...
    me either - frm what i read when jodi decided to rep herself she produced hand written letters from travis claiming that he admtted to being a pedo and abusing her - but experts proved they were forged and thrown out and thats when the judge told her she had to have attys - and now the ntl enquierer said they now longer existed and just have electronic copies now

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    and i give tanisha props - idk how she hasn't smuggled a gun into court and just blown her ass away while she is on the stand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    agreed! But those women 'think' themselves normal, they claimed not to know until the pregnancy and birth (DNA) told the truth. There was times when friends or family supported them in sympathy. AHHHH It changed me forever, in a bad way I hate to admit.
    I agree with you wasthinking. I personally know a few women who have turned a blind eye to child molestation.

    One is a old family friend and she had been divorced for many years, her ex was molesting all their kids and others. She worked a lot so that was her excuse to why he got away with it. I could never get past that she did not know something was wrong in that household, she did not find out about it until after her divorce, so she says. She is a very well educated women, church going none drinker etc... woman. I have heard of many cases like you have pointed out also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    wrong link?
    omg, I should give up and go to bed. Yes, that is wrong, sorry. Damn, no idea where I got this right one from, dumb me renamed it 10 letters. Maybe the court site? HP? ugh

    not date by day but shows July 2010
    CR 2008-031021-001
    Defendant. )

    REPLY TO DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE;
    MOTION TO PRECLUDE LETTERS
    PURPORTEDLY WRITTEN BY TRAVIS
    ALEXANDER TO DEFENDANT
    (Assigned to the Honorable
    Sally Duncan, Div. M, Crj13)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    I agree with you wasthinking. I personally know a few women who have turned a blind eye to child molestation.

    One is a old family friend and she had been divorced for many years, her ex was molesting all their kids and others. She worked a lot so that was her excuse to why he got away with it. I could never get past that she did not know something was wrong in that household, she did not find out about it until after her divorce, so she says. She is a very well educated women, church going none drinker etc... woman. I have heard of many cases like you have pointed out also.
    i know that happens but i don't think it applies to this case, they weren't married or even a couple - just and occasional booty call - who protects a booty call?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    I agree with you wasthinking. I personally know a few women who have turned a blind eye to child molestation.

    One is a old family friend and she had been divorced for many years, her ex was molesting all their kids and others. She worked a lot so that was her excuse to why he got away with it. I could never get past that she did not know something was wrong in that household, she did not find out about it until after her divorce, so she says. She is a very well educated women, church going none drinker etc... woman. I have heard of many cases like you have pointed out also.
    Don't get me wrong, I believe whole heartedly it is very possible to not know. Peds are clever, sneaky, it is easy to make a child fearful! You wouldn't believe the kids that are threatened with I will kill you, or your mom etc and are terrified to tell even once mom and or LE supports them. It is a very complex issue. How many times in your life do you hear, "I know for a fact so and so would never"
    Truth is, we NEVER truly know another. The greatest danger is in thinking we can. If they want to hide a darkness they are very clever at doing so. One word, PRIESTS. How many didn't believe their kid because.. but it's a priest.
    My point was only regarding women that once it is proven, still stay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    omg, I should give up and go to bed. Yes, that is wrong, sorry. Damn, no idea where I got this right one from, dumb me renamed it 10 letters. Maybe the court site? HP? ugh

    not date by day but shows July 2010
    CR 2008-031021-001
    Defendant. )

    REPLY TO DEFENDANT'S RESPONSE;
    MOTION TO PRECLUDE LETTERS
    PURPORTEDLY WRITTEN BY TRAVIS
    ALEXANDER TO DEFENDANT
    (Assigned to the Honorable
    Sally Duncan, Div. M, Crj13)
    WooFrigginHoo

    Michael K. Jeanes, Clerk of Court
    *** Electronically Filed ***
    Laura Sam
    Filing ID 646017
    7/23/2010 10:56:56 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Happy Birthday!!! Feel better soon!

    I have an idea of what you might want to wish for when you blow out your candles....
    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    happy birthday!!!! just make your b-day wish is that she fries!!!!
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    Happy Birthday! Hope you feel better soon!
    thank you! lol that will be my wish
    I won't feel sorry for me, I'm getting drunk
    But I'd much rather be somewhere with you

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    This pedophile allegation is a load of crap. Yes, there are there are times when people don't or can't identify a pedophile at the time that it is happening. But I don't know one case where in hindsight, that you don't find a victim, that you don't find others who harbor the same suspicions (besides Mama Arias or the most current Jodi "lover"), that there aren't rumors, that you don't find evidence. We have none of that.

    Travis is dead. If someone was afraid of him coming back at them for telling, they have had 5 years to come out and talk...there is no one and there is nothing, not even a whisper.

    If anything, it shows who Jodi really is. Truth means nothing to her.

    I am not a death penalty supporter, so I can't wish for that. But I hope she lives a very long life, and I hope she spends every single day of that long life looking out of the bars of a prison cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    One of Juan responses on those letters, well worth the read :)

    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...riasngfile.pdf
    Hmmm. The link I got was apparently Jodi's attempt at negotiating down to a 2nd Degree Murder charge. In the document, she's basically threatening to drag Travis through the gutter if the defense doesn't play ball. And what do you know? She followed through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    This pedophile allegation is a load of crap. Yes, there are there are times when people don't or can't identify a pedophile at the time that it is happening. But I don't know one case where in hindsight, that you don't find a victim, that you don't find others who harbor the same suspicions (besides Mama Arias or the most current Jodi "lover"), that there aren't rumors, that you don't find evidence. We have none of that.

    Travis is dead. If someone was afraid of him coming back at them for telling, they have had 5 years to come out and talk...there is no one and there is nothing, not even a whisper.

    If anything, it shows who Jodi really is. Truth means nothing to her.

    I am not a death penalty supporter, so I can't wish for that. But I hope she lives a very long life, and I hope she spends every single day of that long life looking out of the bars of a prison cell.
    Can't judge by victim reporting. It is very common for a victim not to report, ever or for years. Shame, guilt is overwhelming. That is a sad truth about the problem. Not even considering this massive media blitz case. He could have raped me every day, I promise you, you would never in a million years see me open my entire life up in this case before the cameras! Let alone help put my child out there for crazy interneters (is that a word?) to rip apart .. no way in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Hmmm. The link I got was apparently Jodi's attempt at negotiating down to a 2nd Degree Murder charge. In the document, she's basically threatening to drag Travis through the gutter if the defense doesn't play ball. And what do you know? She followed through.
    It is page 11-18 of the 40 pages "Court Documents" Huffington Post had. Once I take something like that I don't get the link. I'll see if I can find the link again.

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