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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    My personal theory is that people are constantly looking for patterns in order to learn (and to avoid being hurt). It's part of what makes us successful as a species. BUT there are not always patterns and a lot of things are just random.

    People who want to blame victims think that if they avoid whatever it is that they feel the victim did to "cause" their murder, they can avoid being murdered. But it doesn't always work that way. Sure, sometimes it helps to, say, not walk around a bad area of town at night, but you could be walking down a street in the middle of the day and run into some crazy psychopath who wants to do you harm. Or you could think that if you treat people right, they won't hurt you, but it's not always true..
    wow! you nailed it! that is best explanation!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Are you sure about the date? I thought she posted that after he died
    No kidding! She posted that on June 3 at 10:54pm?????
    She killed him June 4 at 5:30am!!!!! That's 6-1/2 hours later! This also means she had to post that from her Searcy phone on her way to Mesa! That's huge!

    ETA:
    Did she do this from Daryl's while appropriating gas cans?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    No kidding! She posted that on June 3 at 10:54pm?????
    She killed him June 4 at 5:30am!!!!! That's 6-1/2 hours later! This also means she had to post that from her Searcy phone on her way to Mesa! That's huge!
    She killed him at 5:30 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    wow! you nailed it! that is best explanation!



    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    She killed him at 5:30 PM
    You sure about that? That wouldn't have given her much time for any cleanup before roomates came
    ETA:
    Whoa, guess it was 5:30pm.

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    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...tionreport.pdf

    whoever posted this is... awesome!

    do you guys think that ashley thompson may be the person from travis' myspace? the married woman that was sending sexual emails to him...

    she made the anonymous tip about her husband being involved with the death. at the time they were having problems and she and travis were 'very close' and she had even asked travis if she could move in once they separated, but they decided it 'would not look good'.

    -from reading the police report... page 17.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Tuesday 6-03-08 at 10:54 p.m.,
    Arias posted the following message to her MySpace page:

    "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough."
    can you post the link or a screen pic??? can't find it - and how do you see date and time on myspace??? - i just see 4 years ago on time - like that comment travis made about her being hot - i was curious when he posted it

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    She killed him at 5:30 PM
    M Joy, sorry about this, I'm not finding it. And that is some very old notes, I didn't even keep a link. Maybe on Travis'? Hell, I dunno. Can we forget it until IF or when I find it again.


    On the time of death, I'm not so sure he was dead yet in 5:32:16 drag. Started rethinking ... what if he wasn't? What if he was just so weak yet breathing while being dragged.
    Someone else check this out please .. the should back stabs and this drag pic. Is it just me or is the drag pic missing those should, neck stabs, looks like it could be to me.

    We have to remember he had head stabs and other neck stabs, it is possible, his throat wasn't cut yet in that pic. Just because that is the 'theory' Martinez wants doesn't make it so.
    What is weak, unconscious, she drags him in the shower than slits his throat because as she indicted ... he just wouldn't die easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    M Joy, sorry about this, I'm not finding it. And that is some very old notes, I didn't even keep a link. Maybe on Travis'? Hell, I dunno. Can we forget it until IF or when I find it again.


    On the time of death, I'm not so sure he was dead yet in 5:32:16 drag. Started rethinking ... what if he wasn't? What if he was just so weak yet breathing while being dragged.
    Someone else check this out please .. the should back stabs and this drag pic. Is it just me or is the drag pic missing those should, neck stabs, looks like it could be to me.

    We have to remember he had head stabs and other neck stabs, it is possible, his throat wasn't cut yet in that pic. Just because that is the 'theory' Martinez wants doesn't make it so.
    What is weak, unconscious, she drags him in the shower than slits his throat because as she indicted ... he just wouldn't die easy.
    i'm pretty sure you are right about the comment - i remember seeing it b4 w/ that time and date a while back - i just never put it together b4 - maybe i can find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    M Joy, sorry about this, I'm not finding it. And that is some very old notes, I didn't even keep a link. Maybe on Travis'? Hell, I dunno. Can we forget it until IF or when I find it again.


    On the time of death, I'm not so sure he was dead yet in 5:32:16 drag. Started rethinking ... what if he wasn't? What if he was just so weak yet breathing while being dragged.
    Someone else check this out please .. the should back stabs and this drag pic. Is it just me or is the drag pic missing those should, neck stabs, looks like it could be to me.

    We have to remember he had head stabs and other neck stabs, it is possible, his throat wasn't cut yet in that pic. Just because that is the 'theory' Martinez wants doesn't make it so.
    What is weak, unconscious, she drags him in the shower than slits his throat because as she indicted ... he just wouldn't die easy.
    I'm pretty sure, because of the blood evidence, his throat was cut at the end of the hallway where the carpet begins. Apparently, there was a lot of blood there.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.c...tionreport.pdf

    whoever posted this is... awesome!

    do you guys think that ashley thompson may be the person from travis' myspace? the married woman that was sending sexual emails to him...

    she made the anonymous tip about her husband being involved with the death. at the time they were having problems and she and travis were 'very close' and she had even asked travis if she could move in once they separated, but they decided it 'would not look good'.

    -from reading the police report... page 17.
    wait - wasn't she the girl on dr drew last wed saying that the whole sex story about the baptism was a lie because she knew travis and he would never do that??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    You sure about that? That wouldn't have given her much time for any cleanup before roomates came
    ETA:
    Whoa, guess it was 5:30pm.
    Remember, one roommate was house sitting somewhere else, if I recall correctly. The other roommate had to take the bus home or something like that and did not get home until many hours later than he usually did. Thank goodness for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    can you post the link or a screen pic??? can't find it - and how do you see date and time on myspace??? - i just see 4 years ago on time - like that comment travis made about her being hot - i was curious when he posted it
    No idea why I have that, so sorry. It will drive me crazy now lol

    I found this they have the same thing. I wouldn't cut and paste from a site like that though without checking it elsewhere. I could see me typing the one wrong digit, but two in a row?
    Confession, I do have issues I didn't used to have and often language / typing gets mixed a little. But missing 10 for 3, doesn't fit those really.

    http://victimsheartland.forumotion.c...s-on-the-stand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Remember, one roommate was house sitting somewhere else, if I recall correctly. The other roommate had to take the bus home or something like that and did not get home until many hours later than he usually did. Thank goodness for him.
    The late bus is what the roommate said on TV, but interestingly, that doesn't make what Flores put in his report!

    Not that I think it is a big issue, killer was behind locked doors, she could be as sneaky quiet as she wanted for as long as she wanted. She didn't get to Kingsman until almost midnight, that gave her HOURS in that house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    M Joy, sorry about this, I'm not finding it. And that is some very old notes, I didn't even keep a link. Maybe on Travis'? Hell, I dunno. Can we forget it until IF or when I find it again.


    On the time of death, I'm not so sure he was dead yet in 5:32:16 drag. Started rethinking ... what if he wasn't? What if he was just so weak yet breathing while being dragged.
    Someone else check this out please .. the should back stabs and this drag pic. Is it just me or is the drag pic missing those should, neck stabs, looks like it could be to me.

    We have to remember he had head stabs and other neck stabs, it is possible, his throat wasn't cut yet in that pic. Just because that is the 'theory' Martinez wants doesn't make it so.
    What is weak, unconscious, she drags him in the shower than slits his throat because as she indicted ... he just wouldn't die easy.
    I searched and found this, though its not 100% proof, but it seems more plausable:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho....php?p=3943272
    Originally Posted by akashana (on websleuths)
    Here's her last myspace status update:

    Jodi Arias misses Travis. "See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough.at 10:54 PM Jul 10, 2008"

    Chilling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    I'm pretty sure, because of the blood evidence, his throat was cut at the end of the hallway where the carpet begins. Apparently, there was a lot of blood there.

    I know that is what the prosecution wants but ...
    He had other stabs to his neck and stabs to his head! down to the bone! stabs behind his ear down to bone!
    I wouldn't bet where his throat was cut. Blood every where and many wounds / blood trails could justify it all along the way. With all those even if his throat wasn't cut yet, and he laid there unconscious it would still be the same blood imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i'm pretty sure you are right about the comment - i remember seeing it b4 w/ that time and date a while back - i just never put it together b4 - maybe i can find it
    This is what I found: June 19, 2008 - At 10:54 p.m., Arias posted this message to her MySpace page: "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough." - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...#slide=2052774

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    No idea why I have that, so sorry. It will drive me crazy now lol

    I found this they have the same thing. I wouldn't cut and paste from a site like that though without checking it elsewhere. I could see me typing the one wrong digit, but two in a row?
    Confession, I do have issues I didn't used to have and often language / typing gets mixed a little. But missing 10 for 3, doesn't fit those really.

    http://victimsheartland.forumotion.c...s-on-the-stand
    ok i found this on the huffington post time line

    Key Dates In The Jodi Arias Case
    June 19, 2008 - At 10:54 p.m., Arias posted this message to her MySpace page: "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough."


    don't worry about getting things mixed up - i do all the time - i've decided i have selective dyslexia

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I searched and found this, though its not 100% proof, but it seems more plausable:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho....php?p=3943272
    I saw that too, but yes, like me they aren't anything we can see for ourselves. And what is nagging me is, I remember asking how do you see times on myspace myself not too long ago. I don't recall seeing them ever, just 4 yrs aqo kind of thing. WHERE in the world would I get an exact time? I wouldn't make it up but duh, it was so early for me in this case, I have no idea why / how I noted it. A video? Police report? Lost my mind and took bad info from a reporter? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    ok i found this on the huffington post time line

    Key Dates In The Jodi Arias Case
    June 19, 2008 - At 10:54 p.m., Arias posted this message to her MySpace page: "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough."


    don't worry about getting things mixed up - i do all the time - i've decided i have selective dyslexia
    lol now we have 3 different dates that she posted that on. Should we go with the Huffington Post date?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    ok i found this on the huffington post time line

    Key Dates In The Jodi Arias Case
    June 19, 2008 - At 10:54 p.m., Arias posted this message to her MySpace page: "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough."


    don't worry about getting things mixed up - i do all the time - i've decided i have selective dyslexia
    lmao, great, now we have 3 dates.

    I tried to multiquote you and Justice, can't manage that either.

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    Originally Posted by akashana (on websleuths)
    Here's her last myspace status update:

    Jodi Arias misses Travis. "See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough.at 10:54 PM Jul 10, 2008"

    Chilling.
    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Googled it and it appears to have been posted on 10:54 PM Jul 10, 2008
    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    This is what I found: June 19, 2008 - At 10:54 p.m., Arias posted this message to her MySpace page: "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough." - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...#slide=2052774
    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    ok i found this on the huffington post time line

    Key Dates In The Jodi Arias Case
    June 19, 2008 - At 10:54 p.m., Arias posted this message to her MySpace page: "misses Travis. See you soon, my friend, but not soon enough."


    don't worry about getting things mixed up - i do all the time - i've decided i have selective dyslexia
    well that narrows it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    lol now we have 3 different dates that she posted that on. Should we go with the Huffington Post date?
    you should email him and ask where he got that from for us, lmao!

    I'm a prove it gal, I want to see it .. where ever that might be. :)

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