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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    I don't get the self defense AT ALL. I will believe the ninja story over the self defense story.
    She had NO CHOICE but to go with the self defense story. They had a plethora of evidence putting Jodi at the scene. No way in hell she is ever going to admit to anything that would not give her a shot at a complete acquittal . So that's why they are going for the SD route.

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    mT, just to clarify, the defense asked the ME about those miracle brain injuries we sometimes hear about, and asked him if this could have been like that. He denied that possibility saying that the injuries you hear about are spikes or arrows, but gun shot sounds release gases that expands in the brain. Since it is already such a delicate thing, that if the foreign object didn't trigger the brain to shut down, the external gases certainly would have. He was immediately incapacitated, according to the ME there is no question about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smashie View Post
    She had NO CHOICE but to go with the self defense story. They had a plethora of evidence putting Jodi at the scene. No way in hell she is ever going to admit to anything that would not give her a shot at a complete acquittal . So that's why they are going for the SD route.
    Oh, I get the defense has to go that route. I just don't get it. It's so absurd the defense must feel like dumb asses for having to present it.


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    ..... it wasn't anything personal, she just mistook him for a serial killer......

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    That IS NOT a beauitful flower!!!

    What is that? Some kind of cystic absess on her veej? Ehhhuuuhck!

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    Fresh meat!

    Oh, I mean ...New blood! YAY! WELCOME NEW MEMBERS!

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    i just read about a guy named Israel Keyes in the Arizona Republic. geeeezzzzzzz i did not see a thread on here about that serial killer. but this one is enough, i am already behind in my chores.

    THIS: i sell on ebay and just remembered to check her art; one of her pieces that sold for 100. is being resold and is up over 1k; someone else is selling items claiming they are from her...http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40
    the forged art will be hitting soon.

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    *whoops, I meant to say gunshots always produce gasses that expand in the brain. He could not see the path through the brain because of decomp. The defense chick asked him if there was a possibility of the bullet not entering the brain, and they had a five minute argument about it passing through the brain or not. He was adamant that it did, because of where it entered and where it lodged. He wouldn't back down on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronsmommy View Post
    mT, just to clarify, the defense asked the ME about those miracle brain injuries we sometimes hear about, and asked him if this could have been like that. He denied that possibility saying that the injuries you hear about are spikes or arrows, but gun shot sounds release gases that expands in the brain. Since it is already such a delicate thing, that if the foreign object didn't trigger the brain to shut down, the external gases certainly would have. He was immediately incapacitated, according to the ME there is no question about it.
    Interesting. I wonder if they are fighting against the possibility because of the perjury thing. I mean, to say it is impossible is stretching it, ya know?

    My foster sister found some dude to shoot her husband. The dude flattened the hubby's tire. When hubby came out to change tire, dude walked up to him and shot him. Hubby didn't even know he was shot. He thought someone hit him in the head. He had a tiny bit of bleeding at the entry wound. When he had an x-ray, oops, a bullet. He lived.

    I know this ME has more knowledge and experience than me, but I just can't help but question it. I'm sure they could find thousands of cases where people were shot in the face/head with little to no injury.


    Baahhh! Maybe she will tell the truth once she's convicted.


    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    ..... it wasn't anything personal, she just mistook him for a serial killer......

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    No worries, I was just explaining the ME was asked and answered about the miracle stories already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronsmommy View Post
    *whoops, I meant to say gunshots always produce gasses that expand in the brain. He could not see the path through the brain because of decomp. The defense chick asked him if there was a possibility of the bullet not entering the brain, and they had a five minute argument about it passing through the brain or not. He was adamant that it did, because of where it entered and where it lodged. He wouldn't back down on that one.
    Yep. she tried. And also kept asking him if he talked to Det. Flores about 6 times. He kept saying "Again, I don't recall ever talking to him about this case, ever...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketgirl View Post
    W-w-Wait - I'm sorry, .... there is a butthole pic??!!??
    Oh yes. The most shocking day of my life. Sitting her during a break of the trial. Nothing on the screen except twitter comments on the side of the video that I was reading. BOOM! All of a sudden, Jodi hole was right in my face. I was not expecting it. Then slowly...it became like some weird porn movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Yep. she tried. And also kept asking him if he talked to Det. Flores about 6 times. He kept saying "Again, I don't recall ever talking to him about this case, ever...."
    That was that awesome day where she looked like a moron because she argued with the ME forever about the bullet hitting the brain and then kept asking the same questions over and over. She wasn't allowed to speak after that and had to keep Jodi company.

    Also, welcome new people

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    Here's the information from the testimony and the receipts shown on the screen:

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    Quote Originally Posted by nestlequikie View Post
    Holy Shit!!!!

    Poor Travis. I feel so badly for his family having to see photos like this - in court or anywhere.
    And we're supposed to believe that she did that by herself?

    You people are insane.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    And we're supposed to believe that she did that by herself?

    You people are insane.
    I'm completely confident that I could do worse than she did. I wouldn't, I'm just trying to say that her size/stature has no bearing on her being able to repeatedly plunge a knife in and out of a piece of ailing meat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    I'm completely confident that I could do worse than she did. I wouldn't, I'm just trying to say that her size/stature has no bearing on her being able to repeatedly plunge a knife in and out of a piece of ailing meat.
    Exactly my point. I have said this before. This thread is a bunch of women who honestly think that they could do something like this. That's why logic has gone out the window.

    "I'm badass, and I could do this, so this bitch acted alone."

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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Exactly my point. I have said this before. This thread is a bunch of women who honestly think that they could do something like this. That's why logic has gone out the window.

    "I'm badass, and I could do this, so this bitch acted alone."

    I don't think it would be easy to do and I certainly don't think I could do it. You'd have to have mad rage to inflict those sorts of injuries on someone else. I don't think it's impossible though. If her first stab was the chest wound and she took Travis by surprise then he'd be incapacitated enough to carry out the rest of the attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Exactly my point. I have said this before. This thread is a bunch of women who honestly think that they could do something like this. That's why logic has gone out the window.

    "I'm badass, and I could do this, so this bitch acted alone."

    I can't speak for others, but I haven't invested enough time in this case to decide what happened and what didn't happen. I came here for the naked pictures and the crime scene photos because I'm just a piece of shit like that.

    I have no doubt that, if I wanted to bad enough, it would be completely possible for me to carry out the violence in this case with my own 190 lb. husband. Stabbing at an unarmed, naked, unsuspecting and showering man isn't exactly like taking on a WWE superstar. If you get him good enough the first time, the rest wouldn't take much effort.

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    There have been a lot of cases where a woman attacked, stabbed, mutilated men that were twice their size all by themself
    - Beauty is a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantompoet View Post
    There have been a lot of cases where a woman attacked, stabbed, mutilated men that were twice their size all by themself
    Link?
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Noob here. My first comment yesterday went into the black hole and came out missing the first part...but I digress.

    It just hit me that Jodi chose the most cowardly way to kill Travis. I mean, Travis was probably not expecting a crazed, stabby, homicidal hosebeast to attack him while he was either enjoying his shower or exiting the shower.

    I don't think you'd have to be particularly strong to overtake someone if that someone were wet and slippery.

    Another thing- I was listening to her police interrogation at work Friday and she said they had sex in his office and he cleaned house for a bit then wanted to take a shower. She wanted to photograph him and he didn't want her to. She sure was proud of that head-on photo. Whether or not that was taken with his consent, we can only speculate. In Jodi's bizarro-world, a picture that captures Travis' fear and/or bewilderment is awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Exactly my point. I have said this before. This thread is a bunch of women who honestly think that they could do something like this. That's why logic has gone out the window.

    "I'm badass, and I could do this, so this bitch acted alone."

    yeah, you seem like the only dude on here; I do not think I could do that, I know I could not, but I sure as hell think Jodi Ann Arias could and did! There is no other evidence, including DNA, or reason to have an accomplice. No one else in any photos, no menage a trois photos. No one arriving in Utah with her. She admits she did it. And it would not make any difference in her charges anyway. The photos and palm print are enough. The photos are her downfall.

    That is the part I cannot fathom, how the camera was snapping, I have read there was no strap on it to be holding it by; and then to leave it there was her big mistake. But the killing, things just 'went her way' as far as it being accomplished. He was not able to over power her, and Enrique did not come home ~ though if he had, she may have stabbed him too. I bet he feels lucky he didn't encounter her.

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    Alrighty..... I quoted and responded to a few posts this morning and they are still being held by mods? How long does that take? I feel like the conversation moved way past my posts. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Link?
    Aileen Wournos, Winnie Ruth Judd, Lizzie Borden...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeLosMuertos View Post
    Alrighty..... I quoted and responded to a few posts this morning and they are still being held by mods? How long does that take? I feel like the conversation moved way past my posts. :(
    I think that happens if they were too long.

    Find other threads and post there.

    If you have a higher count, then you can contribute. I think it's a failsafe with the software to prevent spamming. Someone signs up and immediately leaves one 10,000 character post about their viagra.
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