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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    The ME said the very first wound TA suffered was fatal. It was only sooner or later from there. I guess at Travis lasted less than two minutes after that. The first strike went through ribs and cartridge and had to have been inflicted with tremendous force and fury. Horrible. He never knew what hit him.
    Actually, they don't know exactly what the first wound was, just that he was stabbed first because he had defensive wounds on his hand, so he was moving around and trying to defend himself. The neck wound and the gun shot both would have been incapacitating and he would only have lived for seconds after either one of those. So he was stabbed first, but they don't know the exact order of every stab wound.
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    I believe the ME said that only the chest/heart wound would have resulted in Travis ending up bending over his sink spitting blood from his nose/mouth. If that was not the first stab wound I suspect the much heavier and larger Travis would have overpowered JA. He must have been in immediate shock from the unexpectedness of a stab through his chest into his heart area.

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    My apologies if this has already been asked and/or posted, but does anybody have a screen shot of the pic shown of Jodi in the defense's opening statement? I believe they showed a naked photo of her taken the day of the murder, right? I'm mostly interested because I want to see the color of her hair at the time, but I also want to find something else about her to make fun of. Y'know, win-win and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaosengine View Post
    My apologies if this has already been asked and/or posted, but does anybody have a screen shot of the pic shown of Jodi in the defense's opening statement? I believe they showed a naked photo of her taken the day of the murder, right? I'm mostly interested because I want to see the color of her hair at the time, but I also want to find something else about her to make fun of. Y'know, win-win and all that.
    Also, you want to see her nekkid.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    I believe the ME said that only the chest/heart wound would have resulted in Travis ending up bending over his sink spitting blood from his nose/mouth. If that was not the first stab wound I suspect the much heavier and larger Travis would have overpowered JA. He must have been in immediate shock from the unexpectedness of a stab through his chest into his heart area.
    Yes the chest wound to the heart was the only one that would have been fatal eventually, but there's really no telling which stab wound was "the very first".
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaosengine View Post
    My apologies if this has already been asked and/or posted, but does anybody have a screen shot of the pic shown of Jodi in the defense's opening statement? I believe they showed a naked photo of her taken the day of the murder, right? I'm mostly interested because I want to see the color of her hair at the time, but I also want to find something else about her to make fun of. Y'know, win-win and all that.
    That all translates to "I just want to see her naked.".

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    Something else interesting about the wounds is, they asked (the ME? I think) if there were any hesitation marks around the cut to the throat, and there were not. So she did not hesitate at all to cut his throat from ear to ear.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassHat View Post
    That all translates to "I just want to see her naked.".
    I don't want to see her naked, but was her hair blonde or brunette...anyone know??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Well, the thing is, he may be a big guy but he probably wasn't expecting to be blitzed, plus he was all naked and vulnerable, and she was crazed. Moms do crazy shit all the time that defies science just because they get an emotional overload, like lift cars to save their kids.
    This. With his unexpected reaction plus her murderous rage, that first stab to the heart was enough to throw him off kilter and already leave him incapacitated. They said at this time is when he stumbled towards the sink and leaned over, which left his back wide open to be stabbed almost 30 times. He at least had some fight in him since there was self defense cuts on his hands.

    So here is my issue with her "self defense." Last time I checked, I don't keep sharp cutlery in my bathroom. I'm pretty sure I could take a poll that most people don't have a slew of Cutco knives in the medicine cabinet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Msmichie View Post
    I don't want to see her naked, but was her hair blonde or brunette...anyone know??
    She is a brunette in her original arrest mugshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Msmichie View Post
    I don't want to see her naked, but was her hair blonde or brunette...anyone know??
    Brunette. I believe the said she dyed her hair at some point in the beginning of her 3,000 mile journey in a huge circle across the pacific time zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassHat View Post
    She is a brunette in her original arrest mugshot.
    I know that.. but I wondered if she was a blonde or brunette in the "sexy time photos". I missed that part of court that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    ?.. but there's really no telling which stab wound was "the very first".
    You are correct. However I would suggest that common sense would suggest that anything less than a knock out strke - first, viciously and unexpectedly would not have incapicated TA the way the blood evidence suggests. IMO Nonetheless that poor guy had an absolutely horrific last moments in this life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    You are correct. However I would suggest that common sense would suggest that anything less than a knock out strke - first, viciously and unexpectedly would not have incapicated TA the way the blood evidence suggests. IMO Nonetheless that poor guy had an absolutely horrific last moments in this life.
    He did.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    Brunette. I believe the said she dyed her hair at some point in the beginning of her 3,000 mile journey in a huge circle across the pacific time zone.
    I think he wants to know if she dyed her hair before or after she killed Travis.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    From an article;

    "Prosecutors suggested that Arias stole a gun from her grandfather to kill Alexander. Prosecutors said two days before the murder, Arias went to Yreaka to rent a car. She changed her hair color between June 2 and June 4 and returned the car a day late on June 7."

    So, I'm assuming she was a brunette at the time of the murder.

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    Actually, no, that would mean she was a blonde. Cause he was found on the 10th, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassHat View Post
    From an article;

    "Prosecutors suggested that Arias stole a gun from her grandfather to kill Alexander. Prosecutors said two days before the murder, Arias went to Yreaka to rent a car. She changed her hair color between June 2 and June 4 and returned the car a day late on June 7."

    So, I'm assuming she was a brunette at the time of the murder.
    Thank you. I wished I hadn't missed those pictures :(

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    Well yeah, he was found on the 10th, but she hightailed it out of Mesa on the evening of the 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaosengine View Post
    My apologies if this has already been asked and/or posted, but does anybody have a screen shot of the pic shown of Jodi in the defense's opening statement? I believe they showed a naked photo of her taken the day of the murder, right? I'm mostly interested because I want to see the color of her hair at the time, but I also want to find something else about her to make fun of. Y'know, win-win and all that.
    Well, they said the guy at the rental car place stated she was blonde, but someone at some point along her road trip said she had brown, so she dyed it along the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Msmichie View Post
    Thank you. I wished I hadn't missed those pictures :(
    Yeah, I've missed some of the pictures, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    I think he wants to know if she dyed her hair before or after she killed Travis.
    I wasn't explicit enough with my 'in the beginning.' I meant before, I apologize. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that she was a brunette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristinella View Post
    I wasn't explicit enough with my 'in the beginning.' I meant before, I apologize. But yeah, I'm pretty sure that she was a brunette.
    I didn't see the pictures, so I don't know for sure if she was blonde or not when she killed Travis. She was blonde when she rented the car and she was brunette when she got to Salt Lake, that's all I know.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    I didn't see the pictures, so I don't know for sure if she was blonde or not when she killed Travis. She was blonde when she rented the car and she was brunette when she got to Salt Lake, that's all I know.
    I swear I thought I heard that she was brunette at the time? But yeah, I'm not definitely sure.

    Ok, so this just hit me since I only had the audio from the opening statements and Day 1. Are they trying to say that a knife was available to Jodi in the bathroom because of the rope fetish that Travis had? I feel like I just had some epiphany because I really didn't know how they were going to explain that.

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    I'm also wondering if maybe Travis had a thing for brunettes? It seems like what I believe was an ex-girlfriend was as well as the girl he was planning on taking to Cancun. So maybe in some last ditch effort to make herself desirable towards him, Jodi decided to "surprise" him with the darker hair color?

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