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Thread: 10-month old baby Lisa Irwin missing since 3 October 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Boxed wine is a huge hit among the middle aged suburban mom drinking crowd. It's cheap and lasts a lot longer than if you pop open a bottle.
    The quality is also much better these days (or so my sommelier friend says). I have considered buying a box because it keeps longer. I sometimes will drink a glass of wine before bed, but once I open a bottle of wine, I don't always finish it before it turns to vinegar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    I honestly didn't want to make the point that she's a drunk. I was just pointing out that she was most likely extremely wasted and woudn't know what happened to her baby, anyway. For her to say "alcohol doesn't change a person like that" is bull. She doesn't know how it changes her.

    I would think she knows exactly how it changes her. I certainly knew exactly how it changed me. I also don't recall ever not remembering what I did. It might be hazy, and all the details might not be there, but nobody will ever convince me that she could have killed her child and hid the body and not know it. I don't really buy the blackout drunk shit. I think people want to forget so they pretend that they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deeply shaded View Post
    I would think she knows exactly how it changes her. I certainly knew exactly how it changed me. I also don't recall ever not remembering what I did. It might be hazy, and all the details might not be there, but nobody will ever convince me that she could have killed her child and hid the body and not know it. I don't really buy the blackout drunk shit. I think people want to forget so they pretend that they do.
    No, people do actually blackout. I have had a few blackouts in my younger years. There were times when my memories were very hazy and confused, but a few times that I can't for the life of me remember what happened. It's pretty scary actually, thinking back on it.
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    I prefer red wine, if anyone has any suggestions for a red boxed wine.
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    Well I personally wanted to forget many times, but I never did, and I don't believe this chick did either. She was an experienced drinker. No offense to you black out drunks, but it's just too convenient to not remember shit you'd rather forget.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deeply shaded View Post
    Well I personally wanted to forget many times, but I never did, and I don't believe this chick did either. She was an experienced drinker. No offense to you black out drunks, but it's just too convenient to not remember shit you'd rather forget.
    Oh there's plenty of stuff I'd rather forget, believe me. But there are genuinely times when people black out. The times I can recall that I blacked out were not even times when I did things I'd rather forget. I don't know what I did. Oh, one time I walked into a tree and I woke up with a big cut on my face. That was fun explaining to my parents what happened when I couldn't even remember myself what happened (I made up a story about hitting my head on the dashboard when my friend hit the brakes real hard). I had to ask my friend how I got a cut on my face.

    In any case, I have no idea if this lady has blackouts or not.
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    when i used to drink, i used to drink those big ass bottles of sangria. you should know the ones im talking about. and i think my 3-4 "cups: (read - big cups filled to the rim) could = 10 "glasses" of wine, but they just made me sleepy and i slept like a baby for the night. her waking up 5 hours later and being fine, that bitch must be a fucking champ bc fuck that noise if that were me. i usually would be in bed by 10 and be fine when i woke up around 6:45. wake me up before that, im still drunk.
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    Oh god, I black out. I call it teleporting. I'll be totally confused about where I was for an hour. I don't even do anything shameful. Half the time, people don't know how drunk I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Oh god, I black out. I call it teleporting. I'll be totally confused about where I was for an hour. I don't even do anything shameful. Half the time, people don't know how drunk I am.
    Yeah, it's the times that I remember that I do really shameful things. Unfortunately.
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    I don't know if she blacks out or not, either? Quite frankly, I don't care. I do think she's full of shit.
    IMO, her tears are real because she feels guilty for whatever happened to Lisa. She was drunk that night, and that's why she's sick of all of the attention being geared towards her. I wish I had money because I would put a large sum of it up for a bet that this baby may or may not be found, but Bradley knows what happened to her because she either did it herself, or found her like that.

    I do think it's rather disgusting that so much time and money is being put into searching for a baby that the parents aren't even willing to help cooperate to find, while so many others are still missing.

    This is why I'm glad I'm a white female. I'm just sayin'. At least I know I've already met the basic qualifications for a full-blown money wasting search effort. Oh, and maybe a spot for one of my loved ones on Nancy Grace should I ever go missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    I don't know if she blacks out or not, either? Quite frankly, I don't care. I do think she's full of shit.
    IMO, her tears are real because she feels guilty for whatever happened to Lisa. She was drunk that night, and that's why she's sick of all of the attention being geared towards her. I wish I had money because I would put a large sum of it up for a bet that this baby may or may not be found, but Bradley knows what happened to her because she either did it herself, or found her like that.

    I do think it's rather disgusting that so much time and money is being put into searching for a baby that the parents aren't even willing to help cooperate to find, while so many others are still missing.

    This is why I'm glad I'm a white female. I'm just sayin'. At least I know I've already met the basic qualifications for a full-blown money wasting search effort. Oh, and maybe a spot for one of my loved ones on Nancy Grace should I ever go missing.
    sigh. Assuming they are innocent (which you're not..I get that) what more can they do to "cooperate?" I see absolutely no point in questioning them over and over and over and over when they've already done it over and over and over and over. They aren't going to get more info from them, so what do you want from them? If it's about the kids being questioned, meh, I don't have a problem with that, either. Kids could say any fucking thing, true or not, which is also not helpful in any way.
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    I think they need to whatever it takes to get LE off of their backs, and onto searching for someone else. They're not doing themselves any favors. Even though it's bullshit (and I agree) if you have nothing to hide take a lie detector test. Let your kids be questioned, stop cancelling opportunites to get your missing kid's story out there, ect. Chances are if they're not hiding anything they won't fail a ldt, their kids won't speak a bunch of bull about them, and the media will stop speculating about their sudden reclusive behavior. I know shit happens and ldts are not 100%, but c'mon. They're more worried about the slight chance (what is it...1-2%?) of an error during a test? If they'd just take the fucking test, I feel that a lot of speculation would be dropped. LE and psychologists understand that open ended questions and children mix about as well as oil and water, but their are people who are versed on how to interrogate young children. If she was drunk and passed out, her children most likely were not intoxicated and could have picked up on something that happened that night. What is it going to hurt? I just don't get the mentality? They're already dealing with the fact that they've been uprooted from their home, their baby sister is missing and in the midst of a media frenzy. There's just too much hesitation and backpeddling for my taste.

    FYI, I don't believe that lie detector tests should be used as definite grounds for decision making in either direction, but it shows that they're willing to do anything to help further interest in LE searching elsewhere for their kid.

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    We already covered all this waaaay back in the thread.
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    I know, I know, but shit...I like to argue.

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    Tell it to these people.


    The Kern County child abuse cases started the day care sexual abuse hysteria of the 1980s in Kern County, California.[1] The cases involved claims of Satanic ritual abuse that were performed by pedophile sex rings with as many as 60 children testifying they had been abused. At least 36 people were convicted and most of them spent years imprisoned. 34 convictions were overturned on appeal. The district attorney responsible for the convictions was Ed Jagels,[2] who was sued by at least one of those whose conviction was overturned,[3] and who remained in office until 2009.[4] Two of the convicted died in prison and were unable to clear their names.






    Kids can be led wherever the interviewer wants them to go.
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    I like you. I really do. Oh, and thanks for posting a birthday cake to my profile way back in the day. I've just recently learned how to navigate this site.
    But, I really hate when people pull that "Oh, but way back when someone did something corrupt and that's how I source my decisions" card.
    One time I had butt sex and it hurt, and then another time I liked it. Not every situation is the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    I like you. I really do. Oh, and thanks for posting a birthday cake to my profile way back in the day. I've just recently learned how to navigate this site.
    But, I really hate when people pull that "Oh, but way back when someone did something corrupt and that's how I source my decisions" card.
    One time I had butt sex and it hurt, and then another time I liked it. Not every situation is the same.
    I have three kids and two grandkids. I know how they operate.
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    She's saying that kids can be manipulated.
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    Que Ron. Buttsecks has just been mentioned.

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    I do too. Well, I don't have any grandkids and I only have one child. But I know they have huge imaginations, and I'm pretty sure people who are formally educated on how to question children are aware of this too. If your mentality was used as a basis, Elizabeth Smart may have never been found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    She's saying that kids can be manipulated.
    Apparently even though that was true in the '80s it's no longer true today. This thread and the same shit every day. Let me know when they find a body.
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    Butt sex is not something really worth getting excited about. No need for a bumrush.

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    Yes, because I don't understand at all that children can be manipulated. I don't get that. I'm stubborn and I don't read anyone else's posts here.

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    But your reasoning is that if they were innocent, the parents would want to keep being questioned as suspects over and over again and allow their children to keep being questioned and possibly manipulated over and over again. I say, no, they would not necessarily want to do that. They may want to police to start focusing on someone outside of the family. Their behavior in this matter does not speak to guilt or innocence.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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