Originally Posted by Angiebla
I had to google it.
This new scenario just makes me really sad for both of them, and the doggers.
I had to google it.
This new scenario just makes me really sad for both of them, and the doggers.
Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1
She obviously loved him and put a ton of work into taking care of him if he was in such good condition on the surface that most people didn't know.
Very sad that the one dog went for a vet procedure and then was likely resting in the cage due to that and couldn't get out.
I lived out near the border of NM at that time and people were freaking out about the hantavirus in the 90's. This was back during the time when Ebola was always in the news and there were several best sellers about deadly viruses, and TV/movies about them. Overall it's very rare even for people in the environment with rodents, but it was scary.
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The weird thing is, he didnt show signs of dehydration?
From Marsh's post: "Hackman was likely home with his deceased wife for one week before he died, Santa Fe County Sheriff Adan Mendoza said. There was no food in his stomach, which means he had not eaten recently, but he had also no evidence of dehydration, officials said."
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"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
Gene Hackman's will has been unveiled and the two-time Oscar-winner left every penny of his fortune to his wife, Betsy Arakawa.
His three children, son Christopher and two daughters Leslie and Elizabeth, are not named in the will.
Betsy's will leaves most of her assets to Gene, but there's a provision which says if they died within 90 days of each other, it would be considered a simultaneous death, and in that case, her will provides all of her assets would go to charity.
New Mexico is a community property state, so assuming there's no prenup, Betsy's estate could have a lot of money and her share would go to charity.https://www.tmz.com/2025/03/14/gene-...tate-children/As for Gene's estate, despite the fact he did not include his children in his will, they would presumably get his share since they are the most direct living heirs.
Andrew M. Katzenstein, a prominent California trust and estate attorney, has reportedly been hired by Gene's son Chris, indicating he may challenge the will.
Hackman discussed his difficult relationship with his children over the years, admitting he wasn't around much during Chris' formative years. He had gotten closer to his kids in more recent years.
My ex's parents always flew and traveled seperate. They were loaded and knew if they both died at the same time, things would get messy.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
All you have to do is state what you want to happen in your will if the primary beneficiary were to die simultaneously...it's not hard and anyone that doesn't get legal advice on providing for a contingent beneficiary has a bad lawyer and is kind of ignorant. Spell out exactly what you want to happen in your will, don't leave it up to interpretation. It sounds like Gene ONLY put a primary beneficiary and that's why there's some ground for someone to fight..if you name a primary and contingent most valid and legal wills are pretty contest proof. The idea that people can easily fight and overturn a valid and legal will with a primary and contingent beneficiary is a myth.
I agree with you, thats just what they thought. And their son was a sociopath, so there was that. I think they were afraid of him.
Interesting about the contingent.
Last edited by Angiebla; 03-14-2025 at 06:47 PM.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
small updated time line
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...7f7e76142&ei=7
"Preliminary cell phone records revealed Gene Hackman's wife, Betsy Arakawa Hackman, did not die on Feb. 11, as once believed, according to the Santa Fe Sheriff's Department.
Betsy's autopsy determined the manner of death as natural, and authorities previously believed she died on or about Feb. 11. Toxicology results remain pending."
""We can now confirm that Mrs. Hackman’s phone was utilized on the morning of February 12 to call a medical center in Santa Fe, Cloudberry Health.
"A total of three calls were made that morning, all to the medical center. One incoming call was made to Mrs. Hackman from the same medical center that afternoon. That appeared as a missed call on Mrs. Hackman’s cell phone."
Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1
Interesting.
Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.
No surprise here.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...d/82427460007/
New details were released about the death of one of Gene Hackman and wife Betsy Arakawa's dogs, whose body was found in their Santa Fe home, along with the deceased couple, in late February.
The dog, Zinfandel (nicknamed Zinna), likely died from dehydration and starvation, according to a necropsy report obtained by the Associated Press and ABC News on Friday. The AP cites the New Mexico Department of Agriculture’s Veterinary Diagnostic Services as the source of the report, while ABC News sourced the report from Santa Fe Animal Control.The 12-year-old Australian Kelpie mix's stomach was mostly empty, with the exception of "small amounts of hair and bile," the news outlets reported. The report also said there was no evidence of infectious disease, trauma or poisoning, per the AP and ABC News.
A date of the dog's death was not reported, but outlets stated the autopsy showed "partial mummification" and "severe decomposition."
So sad.
So she was calling for help?
Ugh, the dog died a slow death, that makes me want to cry.
Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.
He must have been really bad if he didn't acknowledge that she was dead or that the dog was locked in. Such a sad case and a horrible way to go.
You can take those Fleets and shove them up your ass
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...unclaimed.htmlGene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa's bodies still haven't been claimed a month after the couple were found dead.
Hackman and Arakawa's remains are still unclaimed and being held by the Office of the Medical Examiner of New Mexico, TMZ reported Thursday.
The Medical Examiner updates the list of unclaimed decedents each Monday.
Iconic actor Hackman and Arakawa were listed as unclaimed earlier this week, and TMZ confirmed with the medical examiner's office that their bodies remained in storage there.
Here's a link to the Medical Examiner's unclaimed persons list:
https://hsc.unm.edu/omi/for-families/missing.html
But yet the son is suing to overturn the will. Classy.
I was going to say, someone(s) bitter.But yet the son is suing to overturn the will. Classy.
Was the son his or hers? I know he has 2 daughters.
He has a son too.
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