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    Nevaeh Crain (18) Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms While Pregnant

    https://www.propublica.org/article/n...source=threads

    Nevaeh Crain was crying in pain, too weak to walk, blood staining her thighs. Feverish and vomiting the day of her baby shower, the 18-year-old had gone to two different emergency rooms within 12 hours, returning home each time worse than before.

    The first hospital diagnosed her with strep throat without investigating her sharp abdominal cramps. At the second, she screened positive for sepsis, a life-threatening and fast-moving reaction to an infection, medical records show. But doctors said her six-month fetus had a heartbeat and that Crain was fine to leave.

    Now on Crain’s third hospital visit, an obstetrician insisted on two ultrasounds to “confirm fetal demise,” a nurse wrote, before moving her to intensive care.

    By then, more than two hours after her arrival, Crain’s blood pressure had plummeted and a nurse had noted that her lips were “blue and dusky.” Her organs began failing.

    Hours later, she was dead.

    Fails, who would have seen her daughter turn 20 this Friday, still cannot understand why Crain’s emergency was not treated like an emergency.

    But that is what many pregnant women are now facing in states with strict abortion bans, doctors and lawyers have told ProPublica.

    “Pregnant women have become essentially untouchables,” said Sara Rosenbaum, a health law and policy professor emerita at George Washington University.

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    I am sick over this. People must vote like their life depends on it...because it truly does.

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    I think for so long a lot of women felt a moral superiority because they didn't support abortion/never had one. They felt like all of this wouldn't affect them. Now they realize that they are just expendable sacrifices to Republican Jesus. It doesn't matter if they are white, highly educated, wealthy, etc. They can do everything 'right' and if something happens in their pregnancy they will be allowed to die. They are realizing that if they are raped they will be forced to carry their rapist's baby. Suddenly it's getting real to a lot of women who thought all of this wouldn't affect them.

    I am also hoping that it's getting real to a lot of men. They will lose the women they love. They will be forced to be a dad as a teenager because there isn't any more choice if their girlfriend becomes pregnant. They will be raising their other children if their wives die while pregnant.

    So many people have felt like this doesn't apply to them, but there are very few people in the US this doesn't affect negatively in one way or another.

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    It's such a selfish mentality, and so many people don't care because it doesn't affect them. But guess what, I care about others, and I care about women of the future. I am going to have a granddaughter and I will damned if she doesn't have a choice about her OWN BODY.

    Some guys at my work were talking about this, saying women should only be allowed to have one if she were raped...um, a majority of rapes go unreported due to fear, what about them? It's not cut and dry, which is why there shouldn't be conditions put on it. That's when you start gambling with people's lives, like we are seeing here.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.

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    If men could get pregnant abortions would be free and on demand at 7-11. Fuck all of the men who think they get ANY say in womens' healthcare and options.

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    What gets me is the majority of those vocal against abortion and the right to choose are men.

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    Exactly.

    I fucking love DL Hughley, not just because he's funny as fuck but in his shows he makes a lot of good political points. Like on the abortion issue he says "I'm not going to say whether I am for or against abortion, but what I am against is a bunch of men sitting around the White House deciding what women should do with their bodies."


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    @Nic - I love that. I need to look him up.

    My theory is the men who degrade women and are pushing the right to life agenda are generally not respectful of women in general. They do not see us as equal for whatever reason, whether it be their own upbringing or an experience they had in their life.

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    And on top of all of that they don't know jack about women's bodies and how they work...and yet they are going to make medical decisions for all of us women. FUCK THEM!

    Have any of you seen this? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC56...x7OrhTUE9hjluw

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    Why would they send someone with sepsis home? Pregnant or not? You are pretty much dying. I know you at least need IV antibiotics?

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    BWS - he is great, a lot of people are like "who?" when I mention his name. He was one of the original Kings of Comedy back in the day with Steve Harvey and Cedrick the Entertainer. One of my favorite standups (which is the one I quoted about the abortion thing) is called Genius of the G.E.D. If you get a chance, give it a listen. I crack up so much.

    But yeah, he is basically saying no matter what side you are on, men shouldn't be making these decisions, which I don't understand how people can disagree with that.


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    No uterus no opinion! (except if you had a hysterectomy)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla
    Why would they send someone with sepsis home? Pregnant or not? You are pretty much dying. I know you at least need IV antibiotics?
    They don't want to do ANYTHING that can be connected afterwards to someone trying to say the death of the fetus happened on their watch because in these states they WILL lose their medical license. They cannot treat the mother in this situation until she is almost dead, so they don't treat in an effort to get her to the almost dead point and then they can treat and remove the dead fetus. By then it's usually too late, but they can't and won't do it before then.

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    IV antibiotics shouldnt affect a pregnancy, but IDK. I had the worst upper respiratory infection towards the end of my pregnancy, and the doctor gave me some strong shit. People gave me shit, but she was worried that I was so sick I would get pnemonia.

    She treated me as the patient.

    Guess what pro lifers? If the mom dies the baby will probably die too.

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    You don't understand Angie, they don't care if the baby dies as long as the mom is forced to carry the baby until either the baby is born or the mom dies. It's about control, not the baby being born. They don't give a shit about the baby or mom. They only care about babies until they are out of the womb, then they couldn't give a shit about them.

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    Oh ok. Ignore me

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    No, I don't want to ignore you, I'm just trying to help you understand. You keep explaining why they should have done certain things for the mom, and you are right. The mom is of no concern though, other than to be a womb for the fetus. I want you and everyone else to understand that because these people do.not.care.about.women.

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    I get it. My problem is my brain is trying to make sense of a senseless situation because the alternative is too damn sad to register.

    I grew up with "the mother is the priority save her at all costs" and this horseshit is so foreign to me.

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    The Biden administration recently sued to FORCE Texas hospitals to provide emergency abortion care for women if they were in danger, and the Supreme Court backed Texas. They do not give a shit about women, their already living kids, or anything other than forcing them to carry babies. Just wait, they want to repeal access to contraception and even if Trump is defeated they have the justices to make that law again, so get ready.
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    This makes me foaming-at-the-mouth angry

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    Men should stay the fuck out of any conversation regarding women's health.

    The only way we should be contributing is by voting for the people who will respect women's biological autonomy.
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    Singing to no one and nowhere to really belong." - Waylon Jennings

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    I have read that her family was all super pro-choice, and I guess they thought that the abortion ban wouldn't apply to them (like so many people seem to think) and have been asking why they didn't step in and take care of her. This is the problem...everyone votes for horrible stuff because they think they are special and won't be held to the rules they want applied to everyone else.

    I hope it was worth it.

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    I've noticed a lot of upper/middle class women who are shocked beyond belief that this happened to 'one of them'. Not to be too political but yes, magaites & magalites. They have held to the belief that this issue only really affected "them" and now that they see it affects all women past, present & future they're shocked I tell you, shocked. That mindset baffles me, maybe it was a group head in the sand kind of thing? Who the hell knows but seeing those pretty white ladies who've died because of the rules set by angry, selfproclaimed 'Christian zealots seems to have rattled the wives, daughters & mothers of those same men.
    Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshmallow
    Who the hell knows but seeing those pretty white ladies who've died because of the rules set by angry, selfproclaimed 'Christian zealots seems to have rattled the wives, daughters & mothers of those same men.
    I sure as hell hope so!

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