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    189 bodies found in funeral home, cremations faked

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    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (AP) — A Colorado funeral home where 189 decaying bodies were discovered this month appears to have fabricated cremation records and may have given families fake ashes, according to information gathered by The Associated Press from customers and crematories.

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    WTF? What was their plan, just keep stacking bodies?


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    fake ashes?

    not a bad idea. actually gives me a thought.
    (I swear I'm not a bad person, really)

    My parents are cremated. I had their ashes here in my home. Not my plan but my brother avoid reality or just about anything by either going silent or drinking himself into a stupor. Sometimes, usually both. So here Mom & Dad sat. In their boxes, in their least favorite child's house. After a few years, Dad passed first then I brought my mom to our area and she passed a couple years later, I started nagging my brother about scattering the ashes. He ignored me. Again and again.
    So one beautiful October day a couple years ago, I told the Mr that we were taking my folks to a little lake I grew up on and taking the canoe out for a nice ride then scattering the parents on the land we once had. I'd spoken with the man who bought the property, he was fine with it. So we did it. It was a beautiful Fall day, no one else was on the lake as we took them for one last ride around it. And two ducks followed us the whole was then flew over as we landed and scattered the ashes. I felt a peace, it felt right.
    My brother either doesn't know or got my message and ignored it. If he doesn't know, I've considered giving him some ashes just to let him play his let's pretend game. I know he won't say anything or ask because that would be dealing with something uncomfy and my brother doesn't do that. But still.... I could fake some mom and dad for him if need be and it wouldn't send me straight into hell in a handbasket, right???
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    And to think how many people defended the funeral industry in here when I said that I thought they lost Julie Mott's body instead of it being "snatched".

    She's still sitting on someone's shelf somewhere labelled as " Grandma" IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    And to think how many people defended the funeral industry in here when I said that I thought they lost Julie Mott's body instead of it being "snatched".

    She's still sitting on someone's shelf somewhere labelled as " Grandma" IMHO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marshmallow View Post
    fake ashes?

    not a bad idea. actually gives me a thought.
    (I swear I'm not a bad person, really)

    My parents are cremated. I had their ashes here in my home. Not my plan but my brother avoid reality or just about anything by either going silent or drinking himself into a stupor. Sometimes, usually both. So here Mom & Dad sat. In their boxes, in their least favorite child's house. After a few years, Dad passed first then I brought my mom to our area and she passed a couple years later, I started nagging my brother about scattering the ashes. He ignored me. Again and again.
    So one beautiful October day a couple years ago, I told the Mr that we were taking my folks to a little lake I grew up on and taking the canoe out for a nice ride then scattering the parents on the land we once had. I'd spoken with the man who bought the property, he was fine with it. So we did it. It was a beautiful Fall day, no one else was on the lake as we took them for one last ride around it. And two ducks followed us the whole was then flew over as we landed and scattered the ashes. I felt a peace, it felt right.
    My brother either doesn't know or got my message and ignored it. If he doesn't know, I've considered giving him some ashes just to let him play his let's pretend game. I know he won't say anything or ask because that would be dealing with something uncomfy and my brother doesn't do that. But still.... I could fake some mom and dad for him if need be and it wouldn't send me straight into hell in a handbasket, right???
    I just want to give you a hug, first of all for having lost both of your parents, and second of all, because we all need a fucking hug right now as the world goes to shit. I'm sorry for your loss, and I'm glad you are at peace with what you did. Maybe one day your brother will grow out of his funk and deal with this, but that's not your burden to carry. You did what you thought was right, and that's what matters.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Go fuck yourself.

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    Update on the case:

    Relatives who knew or feared that their loved ones were among the 190 abandoned bodies found decomposing in a Colorado funeral home watched in person for the first time Tuesday as the owners of the business appeared before a judge.

    Jon and Carie Hallford own Return to Nature Funeral Home, which has a facility in Penrose where investigators in early October discovered dozens of stacked bodies, some that had death dates as far back as 2019, according to a federal affidavit. The pair stand accused of abusing corpses, stealing, laundering money and forging documents.Family members had been falsely told their loved ones were cremated and had received materials that were not their ashes, court records said.

    In court for a scheduled hearing Tuesday, Heather DeWolf held up a photo of her late son, Zach DeWolf, who died in 2020 at age 33. Return to Nature handled his remains.

    “I don’t view them honestly as human at this point. I don’t believe a human could do this,” DeWolf told a reporter.

    Though her son’s remains had yet to be identified among the many discovered at the facility, she feared the worst: the container she had rocked like a baby, thinking it was her son’s ashes, had some other material inside.

    “I had not rocked with him since he was a child. And I could put my arms around him and just hold him,” DeWolf said, her eyes watering. “And now, looking back, I don’t know if I was rocking my son or rocking concrete.”

    Several families who hired Return to Nature to cremate their loved ones have told the Associated Press that the FBI confirmed to them privately that their loved ones were among the decaying bodies.

    How the bodies allegedly were mishandled remained unknown to the wider public Tuesday as defense attorneys objected to the desire of prosecutors to unseal affidavits in the case. El Paso county magistrate Hilary Gurney said she would defer to a future judge overseeing the case to decide that.

    The Hallfords were arrested in Oklahoma last month, after allegedly fleeing Colorado to avoid prosecution. They have been jailed on a $2m bond. Both have been charged with approximately 190 counts of abuse of a corpse, five counts of theft, four counts of money laundering and more than 50 counts of forgery.

    Court records say Jon Hallford is being represented by the public defender’s office, which does not comment on cases to the media. Carie Hallford is being represented by attorney Michael Stuzynski, who declined to comment on the case.

    After the bodies were removed from the facility in Penrose, about an hour south of Denver, authorities began working to identify the remains using fingerprints, dental records, medical hardware and DNA.

    When the director of the state office of funeral home and crematory registration called Jon Hallford a day after an odor was reported, Hallford acknowledged having a “problem” at the site and claimed he practiced taxidermy there, according to an order from state officials dated 5 October.

    On the same day the funeral home was searched and the remains were found, Jon Hallford stopped using his phone, according to an FBI affidavit that said he likely turned it off to avoid being found by law enforcement. Several weeks later and facing eviction from a property the couple was renting in Colorado Springs, the Hallfords allegedly told their landlord they would not contest the eviction and “to do what he wanted” with the property they’d left behind, according to the affidavit.

    The FBI tracked Carie Hallford’s phone to Oklahoma, at the residence of Jon Hallford’s parents, where they found his car and obtained a federal court warrant for the couple’s arrest for allegedly fleeing Colorado to avoid prosecution.

    The company, which was founded in 2017, offered cremations and “green” burials without embalming fluids and was beset by financial crises. The owners had missed tax payments, were evicted from one of their properties and were sued for unpaid bills by a crematory that quit doing business with them almost a year ago, according to public records and interviews with people who worked with them.

    The Hallfords’ funeral home business is based in Colorado Springs, just north of Penrose.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ecaying-bodies

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