With such minimal posting, I feel like there is no more "stay on topic". We can do whatever we want!Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm
We can derail a discussion quicker than most and that is awesomeness.
With such minimal posting, I feel like there is no more "stay on topic". We can do whatever we want!We can derail a discussion quicker than most and that is awesomeness.
Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...35201dd1&ei=11
Supreme Court throws out Oklahoma inmate Richard Glossip's murder conviction and death sentence
The Supreme Court on Tuesday threw out the murder conviction and death penalty for Richard Glossip, an Oklahoma man who has steadfastly maintained his innocence and averted multiple attempts by the state to execute him.
The justices found that Glossip's trial violated his constitutional rights because prosecutors did not turn over evidence that might have bolstered his defense.
“Glossip is entitled to a new trial,” Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote for five justices.
Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented, voting to uphold the conviction and death sentence, while Justice Amy Coney Barrett would have allowed a state appeals court to decide how to proceed.
Justice Neil Gorsuch did not take part in the case, presumably because he participated in it at an earlier stage when he was an appeals court judge.
You speak the truth.
I keep reading this name as Gossip.
It may be just me, but I find with these cases the person gets convicted again, and are sentenced to life.
If he's innocent, I hope this is not the case.
I just dont like to see innocent people get their hopes up, then dashed *shrug*
But I know nothing about his case.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
Agreed, but the first step is to keep him from being killed because he has already had multiple execution dates set.
I think the next step will be getting him another trial or applying for clemency or something like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Glossip
Glossip's case has attracted international attention due to the unusual nature of his conviction, namely that there was little or no corroborating evidence,[4][5][6][7] with the first case against him described as "extremely weak" by the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals.On January 7, 1997, Justin Sneed beat Barry Van Treese to death with a baseball bat.[17] The killing occurred at the Best Budget Inn in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, where Van Treese was the owner, Sneed was the maintenance man, and Glossip was the manager.[17] In exchange for avoiding the death penalty, Sneed confessed and told police that Glossip had instructed him to commit the murder.[17]
Glossip insisted on his actual innocence and refused to accept a plea bargain.[17] In July 1998, an Oklahoma jury convicted Glossip of the murder and sentenced him to death.[17] In 2001, the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals unanimously threw out that conviction, calling the case "extremely weak" and finding Glossip had received unconstitutionally ineffective assistance of counsel.[17][8]It's an interesting case, definitely worth reading about.Glossip's legal team asserts that Justin Sneed was addicted to methamphetamine at the time that he murdered Van Treese, and that he habitually broke into vehicles in the parking lot of the Best Budget Inn while he was employed as a maintenance man.[19] Glossip's execution is controversial because he was convicted almost entirely on the testimony of Sneed, who confessed to bludgeoning Van Treese to death with an aluminum baseball bat by himself and who was spared a death sentence himself by implicating Glossip.[7][20]
In 2015, Oklahoma City police released a 1999 police report showing that a box of evidence had been marked for destruction. The report was never provided to attorneys who represented Glossip in his second trial or his appeals, according to his new defense team.[21] In an interview published the same day, Glossip's attorney, Donald Knight, criticised his previous attorneys, saying "They did a terrible job. Horrible. No preparation. No investigation."[22]
On September 22, 2015, Glossip's attorneys filed papers referring to a July 1997 psychiatric evaluation of Sneed, in which he said he understood he was charged with murder in connection with a burglary and made no reference to Glossip's involvement.[23]
On September 23, 2015, Glossip's attorneys filed papers asserting that two new witnesses were being intimidated. In affidavits, one witness had claimed that Sneed laughed about lying in court about Glossip's involvement; another said he was convinced based on his conversations with Sneed that Sneed acted alone.[24]
On September 24, 2015, the Oklahoma Attorney General's Office filed papers stating that the claims of the new witnesses were "inherently suspect," and that the time it took Van Treese to die and whether blood loss contributed to his death did not affect the trial outcome, in response to a defense claim that the testimony of Dr. Chai Choi, who performed the autopsy, was incorrect.[25]
On September 28, 2015, the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals voted 3–2 to proceed with execution.[26][27][28] Presiding Judge Clancy Smith wrote "While finality of judgment is important, the state has no interest in executing an actually innocent man. An evidentiary hearing will give Glossip the chance to prove his allegations that Sneed has recanted, or demonstrate to the court that he cannot provide evidence that would exonerate him." Judge Arlene Johnson wrote that the original trial was "deeply flawed" and an evidentiary hearing should be ordered.[29]
So, it sounds like it was all hearsay. I hope he gets another trial.
We can derail a discussion quicker than most and that is awesomeness.
did someone say "derail a discussion"? that's my super power!!
Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1
You speak the truth.
I keep reading this name as Gossip.
sometimes I worry that it's just me that does that. glad I'm not alone!
Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1
[QUOTE=raisedbywolves;3864567]Agreed, but the first step is to keep him from being killed because he has already had multiple execution dates set.
I think the next step will be getting him another trial or applying for clemency or something like that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Glossip
So Sneed had a substance use disorder and regularly robbed people to support his habit. Probably killed the owner in a botched robbery. Meth makes people rage and I can totally see him doing it.
I dont see what Glossip's motive would be.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
Ha ~ I am happy I am not alone either.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...0aec72a2&ei=34
Firing squad executes Brad Keith Sigmon in South Carolina in 'bloody spectacle'
A firing squad in South Carolina executed Brad Keith Sigmon on Friday for the beating deaths of his ex-girlfriend's parents, marking the first firing squad execution in the state in modern history and the first in the U.S. since 2010.
Sigmon was strapped to a specially made chair and had a hood over his head while three volunteer corrections staffers aimed loaded rifles at his heart and each fired off live rounds, according to several news media witnesses who spoke at a news conference afterward. He was pronounced dead at 6:08 p.m., the witnesses said.
Sigmon was seated and restrained in a metal chair, a hood over his head, in the corner of a room shared by the state's electric chair, according to the execution witnesses.
The firing squad team − three voluntary corrections staff − were standing behind a wall with loaded rifles 15 feet from Sigmon. The wall has an opening for the weapons.
A small target was placed over Sigmon's heart, after which his attorney read his last words, the warden ordered the execution and the team fired, the witnesses said. The bullets all seemed to hit his chest over his heart, said Associated Press reporter Jeffrey Collins.
"It was instantaneous," Collins said. "When the shots were fired, it was very loud, it was very jarring ... I think at that point everyone in the room flinched ... There was only one place where I could see any damage so that makes me think they (the bullets) were all clustered."
Sigmon chose the firing squad over the electric chair or lethal injection, with his attorney citing "prolonged and potentially torturous deaths" caused by the state's recent execution drug and the barbarity of an "ancient electric chair, which would burn and cook him alive."
"He chose the firing squad knowing that three bullets would shatter his bones and destroy his heart," King said Friday. "But that was the only choice he had."
I still choose the firing squad
But I also plan to NOT beat 2 people to death.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
I have formally changed my mind ~ I'll go back to lethal injection.
Yeah, this wasn't a clean head shot, they all aimed for his heart. It says the bullets went above his heart, fail. He obviously died, but still. He probably felt pain before he did. So, lethal injection still for me.
Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.
Do they pick the bottom of the barrel for these executions? I get it, there is no way I or 99% of the population would want to do your job. But can you maybe get it right one time?
I couldnt do lethal injection. Dont like the needle in my arm (catheter) and I would have an anxiety attack waiting for it to happen.
Just shoot me and get it over with.
"The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin
I believe they are supposed to aim at the heart and not the head.
Yeah I got that. Just seems like a head shot would be quicker. But messier I'm sure lol.
Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.
I know. I think there is something about the messiness of it all coupled with the ability to identify someone...or something.
Or possibly study their brain?
Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.
Good point. As long as they give consent, that could happen.
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