Kendrick Johnson (17) Dies after getting trapped in gym mats

[Angiebla]

No evidence what-so-ever? Federal judges sign search warrants based on probable cause, not on the whim of some truck driver and his wife. But we can agree to disagree on that. Opinions, we all have 'em, right?



No, I don't think that at all, never suggested it. It's not like the only two possibilities are (1) accidental PA; or (2) someone slid his dead body into a rolled, standing gym mat. There are other possible scenarios you know. C'mon, you've been here for a day or two, we've seen bodies hid in all sorts of ways and places on this forum. I'm just amazed that anyone here would find it so hard to believe KJ's body was hidden in a gym mat. Stranger things have happened on these forums, many of them perpetrated by impulsive high school boys with underdeveloped frontal cortexes.

And exactly what did they find with the search warrants? Nothing.

[KimTisha]

And exactly what did they find with the search warrants? Nothing.

I don't know what they found because the b@$t@rd$ at the FBI wouldn't let me go on this raid, damnit.

They did remove bags of evidence from the house, but apparently the prosecutor didn't think there was enough evidence to convince a jury. We see that a lot in this forum. It should be noted that the warrant was executed two and a half years after Kendrick died, giving the former FBI agent plenty of opportunity to destroy evidence. If he was any good at his job, the evidence would have been gone the next day.

[Nic B]

How can a jury (who all watch the same "facts") ever be divided? If facts are facts, and there is no place for interpretation, there should never be a hung jury. Every Prosecutor goes to trial with the "facts" he needs to convict, yet Defendants get acquitted. Some defendants get convicted on "facts," and spend decades in jail before new "facts" reveal he was wrongfully convicted. Doesn't change all those facts that got him convicted though, they're still "facts." People have different "opinions" on the outcome of the OJ trial because they interpreted the "facts" differently.

If facts were the final say, Science would stop at what we know today because, well... Facts. No need to question or look further when we have The Facts.

You made a lot of statements up there that you consider "facts." I'm not going to address them individually because it serves no valid purpose in this conversation, but my interpretation of some of those "facts" is different than yours. The facts are the same, the difference is in our interpretation of them.

It's not a zero-sum game. Me thinking I'm right, doesn't make you wrong and vice versa.

I guess that's why I don't understand the whole "STFU the kid wasn't murdered" mentality about this case. IMO, everybody's input is valuable in a discussion like this one - remember, I thought it was just a tragic PA accident until I did more research and became a "conspiracy theorist." Some of the numpties on this thread may have even helped inform my opinion.

I'm always interested in reading different viewpoints and theories formed from collective experiences and diverse backgrounds of MDSers, that's why I'm here. I post to share my thoughts and experiences and to elicit the same. I don't post to convince anyone that I am right and they are wrong. I'm not the AllKnowieBowie.

[Bewitchingstorm]

I take a week off and miss so much.

[Boston Babe 73]

I take a week off and miss so much.

Welcome back!!!!! Don't mustard, ketchup!

[Bewitchingstorm]

Welcome back!!!!! Don't mustard, ketchup!

Ha ha!!

[KimTisha]

I take a week off and miss so much.

Well that'll learn ya!

[AtlantaAndy]

this is still going

https://www.11alive.com/article/news...4-803db67ed6dc

[Bewitchingstorm]

I don't get why his parents are still pushing their narrative. I feel for them, but it was a tragic accident.

[Angiebla]

Wow they are asking for 1 billion dollars!?! Thats a first.

[KimTisha]

Wow they are asking for 1 billion dollars!?! Thats a first.

Not the first, remember this case? Heartbreaking.

https://www.firstcoastnews.com/artic...0-d414e7729b41

[Angiebla]

Yeah but in that case there was an actual person responsible for Conner's death. A company and a driver that wasnt vetted good enough were to blame.

That is not the case here. There was no one that caused Kendrick's death. It was a terrible accident.

[Boston Babe 73]

Ugh...."Access Denied" so I can't read the article. To this day I see posts from people claiming that this was a murder along with Kenneka Jenkins. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN. There's zero evidence in either case that anyone else was responsible for their deaths. It drives me up a wall.

[jennafyre]

Quote from article above: A subsequent independent autopsy requested by the family determined the death was not accidental but caused by "blunt force trauma to the right side of Kendrick's neck, near the jaw." A third autopsy in 2018 also showed findings of "apparent, non-accidental, blunt force trauma" and that some of Kendrick's organs were missing.

ORGANS WERE MISSING?! Who tf did this "independent autopsy"?

[Boston Babe 73]

@Jenna - I think I had read somewhere (maybe even in this thread) that is was a hack that did the independent autopsy. I may also just be losing my mind, but I believe that the organs weren't missing, but wrapped in newspaper or something bizarre like that? From the first autopsy? Maybe I'm just losing my mind, but I seem to remember something about newspaper being stuffed in to the body or something. It could have been a completely different case that I'm thinking of or one that never existed given how my brain functions these days.

Regardless, it wasn't enough motivation for the police to reopen the case and investigate it. If you fell head first down the center of a tall gym mat, you're going to be banged up along the way. I don't see how they can claim that they were "non-accidental" injuries. In addition, when you are fixed in a position like that for a long period, I would assume it would cause some kind of bruising. Your body weight is crushing you down in to the side of the mat.

[AtlantaAndy]

the 2nd and 3rd autopsy were done by the same doctor. The 3rd autopsy basically just reinforced what he found on the 2nd one and instead of a new report, he issued an addendum to the 2nd autopsy report.

the organs were disposed of by the funeral home and the body was stuffed with newspaper. The practice apparently used to be more common and has fallen out of favor.

[Boston Babe 73]

@Andy, thank you so much for clarifying this. I KNEW that I remembered something about the newspaper.