And you know this how exactly?Originally Posted by BeanJeano
And you know this how exactly?
when I'm talking unstable, I'm talking immature and emotionally unstable..Travis says we need to break it off but then all the booty calls happens...June 1, according to the journal entry, he was supposed to come visit her in California...WTH is that?? Why can't he stay away? That's what I mean by the constant push and pull crap... Oh I hate you, you're the worst thing ever but let's have sex?? . I think they were both cracked up a bit....
You almost wish they'd killed each other in a murder suicide...that would have been more fitting. I just see a total facade though with I'm the good guy, like my sex kinky, bang Jodi while I'm trying to find an acceptable Mormon bride shit. If this didn't end the way it did and if Travis was my friend, I'd be calling him out on his douchebaggery. Anyway, I know he didn't deserve to die, no way at all.
Is there anything definitive that says Travis was going to visit her in Cali? Other than her word of course, because we know how reliable that is.
If a man called me a whore, slut or 3 hole wonder, I would consider the man garbage. Travis was mentally and verbally abusive to Jodi, just by the game playing he was mentally abusive. He led her on, just to get what he only ever wanted from Jodi, sex.
He was the one who started the flirting and so on. In my opinion he wanted her only for sex from the very start of the relationship. He had no intentions to ever have anything more than a sexual relationship with her. He was looking for virgin or pretend virgin little Morman girl to marry.
He was dating Mormon girls/women in the daytime and screwing Jodi at night. She was his dirty little secret, he was not truthful to Jodi or any of the girls he was dating. He went around telling everyone he was a virgin. What kind of man does that?
I have the exact same feeling, I have posted the same thing before i read your post.
He led her to kill him, don't you understand what brought this on? No other man did what he did to her. No other man filled her life up with so many dreams.
You go ahead and believe what you want to believe, if that makes you feel better. So you will feel the DP is only what she deserves.
I think Abe needs some anger management himself, sounds personal to me, his problem with Jodi. Maybe no butt sex for him, no BJ.
Could be he just gets no sex anywhere.
Yes, the victim is the real criminal here! It's just too bad Jodi killed him so he couldn't be tried for all this horrible "filling her life up with so many dreams" and shit.
I do not recall the part where Martinez is repeating this is not 47 over and over, can anyone refresh my memory what that is referring to?
are you able to communicate without name calling?
Seriously? You think residents of AZ are inferior to people in other states. That is pretty far out there to think Arizonans are inferior in education to the rest of the US. Does it make you feel better to judge? So far you have called citizens of AZ: gullible, brainless, trained monkeys, 12 people who can't think, liars, below intelligence level in tech intelligence, idiots and failures with boners among other things. I can see you have some awesome people skills.
Now is your chance to tell me again I act like a junior high kid and call me a few names, I would not expect anything different from you.
PS I am so glad I learned to multi quote!
Jury got it right.
God bless LIFE.
The problem with this is she was playing into the "no strings attached" relationship just as much as he was
You should read some of her diary entries where she talks about it. If she wanted more or a relationship than that, she should have made it known
Shes a passive aggressive type of person, so I dont think she ever told travis she wanted anything more out of the relationship until the day she killed him
I think she was hoping he would "figure it out" and want to be with her forever, but that never happened, and as a result she was also the one who was feeding into this
"Were you crying when you were stabbing him? How about when you cut his throat, were you crying then?"
"The difference between a Stumbling Block and Stepping Stone is the Character of the individual walking the path"
I think the good people in the state of Arizona did a good job with this conviction. Dp or lwop really doesn't matter. She will be punished for her crime.
A couple years ago I was in the parking lot of a grocery store and a shooting occurred. A young woman and her boyfriend, who had been living together had a bad break up. There were allegations of domestic violence and threats by the former boyfriend. When the girl moved out, she took the ex-boyfriends tax return and he was angry and they had been arguing over it. The girl's father made arrangements with the ex-boyfriend to discuss the problem. They met at a cafe in the grocery store where the daughter works. The father asked the ex-boyfriend to step outside in the parking lot to talk. They exited the cafe on the side of the building where the employees park. It's a bit secluded there and bordered by a creek and a park. It was late at night. The girl's father shot the ex-boyfriend in the back of the head and planted an unloaded handgun on the ex-boyfriends body. This man was charged with murder 1. Jurors in my state found the father not guilty. They felt the man was trying to protect his daughter. The victim had every single mistake he ever made used to paint him as a troubled young man. The jury evidently felt the victim in this case was a bad guy, even though he was working, attending college and living independently. The jury bought the domestic violence excuse with no evidence. There were no police calls or charges filed for domestic violence. On her word that she was abused a jury let her father walk after he lured a man to a safe location to talk, shot him in the back of the head as he was walking away and attempted a cover up by planting a gun. Just a few months before that a man shot shoppers at Von Maur at a shopping mall when we were there. What the fuck is wrong with people bringing guns to shopping malls and grocery stores.
I guess all that blood on your hands and face blinded you, to why all this happened. Also to comprehend why I wrote that.
You are dead wrong. Jodi wanted the perfect man, the perfect marriage. Travis led her believe he was what she wanted.
I am going to respectfully disagree with you.
Even from Jodi's earlier diary entries, she wrote that she was pretty much a booty call for Travis. I agree with all of PopRocks' post.
Jodi knew what was up. She actually knew what was up from pretty early in their relationship. She knew what Travis wanted and expected from her. Friends with benefits. Jodi changed the rules of that...except she didn't let Travis know. She pretended she wanted the same thing (booty call) while all along she was hoping she could change him.
Actually from reading some of her movements during 07-08, I highly doubt Jodi was "faithful" to Travis anyway. I think Jodi had many pokers in the fire.
I think Jodi is probably very skilled at adapting and becoming which ever person she is suppose to be around certain people.
Does anybody know if any other juror's have spoken out except the 6, 10, 13, 16, 17 & 18? (17 & 10 alt jurors)
Last edited by bermstalker; 05-31-2013 at 03:12 AM.
I respectfully disagree. She had a passel of weapons in her rental car when they arrested her. She was fixated on hurting someone else for sure. Very scary.
Her diary entries say a lot about the games she played with him. I don't think it started out as a no strings attached relationship until she began her nonsense; hacking into accounts, spying on him, sending him stupid texts and emails to make him jealous. He knew by HER actions that this wasn't a girl he was going to marry and cut her loose, over and over again. So in order to keep him in her life, she went along with it by telling him they would marry other people and that little entry where she told him that she hopes there are Mormon men out there who she can marry that will be wild sexually with her, etc.
I agree that she was trying to manipulate him and he'd figure it out. Problem was that she manipulated from the beginning and no relationship can sustain manipulation. Beano has it so wrong saying he made her murder him. How was Travis ever to know what the real Jodi was all about? He couldn't, but he figured it out by May 26, 08 and that cost him his life.
I don't know why we bother analyzing Jodi Arias's statements/comments on _____________. Everything she says is bullshit.
But, um...errr....this time she's telling the truth! Wait...strike that. Maybe only when she's under oath. Um, nope. Let me try that again.
sometimes don't you feel like?:
Last edited by dizzyp; 05-31-2013 at 06:21 AM.
I was hoping the burp from Dr. Geffner would have been here. I missed that the day it happened and never did see that happen.
The same way you are 100% sure of the opposite I expect.
Wow what a bunch of nastiness in here. So instead of discussing things like adults we have people poking, name calling, telling people their opinions are wrong..... When opinions are completely valid whether or not you agree with it. Wow!
A few of you Jodi loving Travis bashers need to read on bpd and how they manipulate and have to have their way. My mom has bpd and growing up with that was a nightmare. I absolutely see Jodi's cycles of love and hate. I don't care what your stance is, but being rude to others will not make me believe you more. In fact it makes you look like a child that has to have their way.
Dr Geffner's belching and water spilling (ttwice) was pretty good. His comment "I was doing so well" uttered while he sopped up the spill, was classic!
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