Sarah Paynes killer has been found with Pictures of her in his cell

[lulupop]

This must be really hard news to hear for Sarahs mum

The man convicted of murdering schoolgirl Sarah Payne was found with pictures of her in his cell, it has been revealed.

Roy Whiting, 51, had newspaper and magazine cuttings about the eight-year-old and other young girls in his cell at Wakefield Prison in West Yorkshire.
The items were discovered during a routine search and detailed in a prison report seen by the Sunday Mirror.

The newspaper quoted the 2009 report as saying: "It is of serious concern that the security information indicates hidden newspaper cuttings of Mr Whiting's victim and young girls were discovered during a cell search.

"It appears that his interest in young girls continues to be evident within the prison environment."

Sarah's mum Sara Payne, 40, has said she felt "anger and dismay" when told what Whiting had been doing.

"This is extremely unfortunate and gives me the creeps," she told the News of the World.



"We live in an age where material like this is easily available and the Prison Service can only do its best to try and restrict it."

She added: "Collecting newspaper clippings is, I am sure, Roy Whiting and other paedophiles' way of trying to intimidate the families of their victims."

Sarah vanished while playing with her brothers and sister in a field near her grandparents' house in Littlehampton, West Sussex.

Search teams looked for 16 days before her body was found 12 miles away.

After Whiting was convicted, it emerged he had kidnapped and sexually assaulted a nine-year-old girl five years earlier.

A Prison Service spokeswoman said: "We don't comment on individual cases.

"Where inappropriate materials are found in prisoners' cells they are immediately removed and the prisoner may be subject to disciplinary proceedings."

[deeply shaded]

It's not like a pedophile stops being a pedophile just because they send him to prison. That's creepy that he had pictures there, though.

[Ron_NYC]

:2huh:
Can they charge him again?

[Tarren]

[quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=24672.msg1570150#msg1570150 date=1269195351]
It's not like a pedophile stops being a pedophile just because they send him to prison. That's creepy that he had pictures there, though.
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I'm wondering how he got them? If people take stuff in I'm sure it's vetted first? Maybe I'm wrong but considering this was such a high profile case here it's strange that he had access to media clippings of a case where he was the perpetrator.

[lulupop]

[quote author=Tarren link=topic=24672.msg1570193#msg1570193 date=1269196366]
I'm wondering how he got them? If people take stuff in I'm sure it's vetted first? Maybe I'm wrong but considering this was such a high profile case here it's strange that he had access to media clippings of a case where he was the perpetrator.
[/quote]
Maybe other inmates saved them from the papers? Although Paedophiles aren't exactly welcomed by other inmates  :|

[quote author=Ron_NYC link=topic=24672.msg1570153#msg1570153 date=1269195458]
:2huh:
Can they charge him again?
[/quote]
I found this in the mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/03/21/killer-roy-whiting-found-with-pictures-of-his-child-victim-sarah-payne-115875-22126546/
Whiting – nicknamed Catweasel by inmates because of his unkempt appearance – has no contact with the outside world.


A Ministry of Justice *spokesman said: “We don’t *comment on *individual cases.


“Where inappropriate *materials are found in prisoners’ cells they are immediately *removed and the prisoner may be subject to disciplinary *proceedings.


“Behaviour in prison is one of the factors considered by the parole board in their *decision making.”

[bowieluva]

What the hell. I thought it was 'technically' against the rules to have pictures/posters up on a prison cell wall. They look the other way with guys and adult pin ups but a pedo with little kid pictures?  So they keep him from the other prisoners so those guys don't kill him? Fuck it. Make him eat lunch with the rest of the class. Natural selection.

[lulupop]

[quote author=lulupop link=topic=24672.msg1570217#msg1570217 date=1269197262]
Maybe other inmates saved them from the papers? Although Paedophiles aren't exactly welcomed by other inmates  :|
I found this in the mirror http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2010/03/21/killer-roy-whiting-found-with-pictures-of-his-child-victim-sarah-payne-115875-22126546/
Whiting – nicknamed Catweasel by inmates because of his unkempt appearance – has no contact with the outside world.


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Before anyone asks, this is catweazel

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570222#msg1570222 date=1269197396]
What the hell. I thought it was 'technically' against the rules to have pictures/posters up on a prison cell wall. They look the other way with guys and adult pin ups but a pedo with little kid pictures?  So they keep him from the other prisoners so those guys don't kill him? Fuck it. Make him eat lunch with the rest of the class. Natural selection.
[/quote]
I'm pretty sure he had the 'secreted' so maybe under his matress or whatever

[bowieluva]

I learned everything I know about prison from Oz and Shawshank Redemption so I assume they toss cells daily. How did he even get access to the material? I mean, a pedo starts checking out Gap Kids catalogs from the prison library, you should notice.

[lulupop]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570238#msg1570238 date=1269197712]
I learned everything I know about prison from Oz and Shawshank Redemption so I assume they toss cells daily. How did he even get access to the material? I mean, a pedo starts checking out Gap Kids catalogs from the prison library, you should notice.
[/quote]
We are talking english prisons here remember 

[bowieluva]

[quote author=lulupop link=topic=24672.msg1570243#msg1570243 date=1269197828]
We are talking english prisons here remember 
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hahah I remember watching the British version of Cops and it was all 'oh mind your head, what tea do you take with your breakfast tomorrow?'

As opposed to American Cops: "Black person! Stop being so suspiciously black! I am using excessive violence on you for thinking it's ok to walk around your own neighborhood!'

[lulupop]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570246#msg1570246 date=1269197921]
hahah I remember watching the British version of Cops and it was all 'oh mind your head, what tea do you take with your breakfast tomorrow?'

As opposed to American Cops: "Black person! Stop being so suspiciously black! I am using excessive violence on you for thinking it's ok to walk around your own neighborhood!'
[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhaozqnZpAc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KABKiabeI58

[Ron_NYC]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570246#msg1570246 date=1269197921]
hahah I remember watching the British version of Cops and it was all 'oh mind your head, what tea do you take with your breakfast tomorrow?'

As opposed to American Cops: "Black person! Stop being so suspiciously black! I am using excessive violence on you for thinking it's ok to walk around your own neighborhood!'
[/quote]
That's a misdemeanor now, instead of being a felony. So you can usually plea down to a violation. :(

[trepid]

This reminds me of a case in Australia where a convicted killer was given access to graphic videotapes of the crime scene showing his victim's semi-naked body and police interview tapes. He then promptly distributed copies to other inmates in the prison so they could all get their jollies off. He also sent one to the victim's mother. He claimed he had only shown the tapes to others for "research purposes".

Due to the simple fact he was representing himself in appeal, he was given access to all the case evidence ... you would of thought under strict supervision. Just another example of justice system fail.

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570246#msg1570246 date=1269197921]
hahah I remember watching the British version of Cops and it was all 'oh mind your head, what tea do you take with your breakfast tomorrow?'

As opposed to American Cops: "Black person! Stop being so suspiciously black! I am using excessive violence on you for thinking it's ok to walk around your own neighborhood!'
[/quote]

:lol:

Sad but true. I can't believe some of the shit those American cops get away with. Outrageous. I saw one episode where they literally knocked down some black dude riding his bicycle with the patrol car and to this day I still don't understand what they arrested him for ... I can only reason it was, as you said, for him being suspiciously black. Or owning a bicycle.

[leapfreak]

Urgh as if Sara Payne hasn't had enough shit going on already this year.  An aneurysm, stroke, paralysis and then finding out the psycho that murdered your daughter is getting off looking at pictures of her.

Our Ministry of Justice has been making themselves look fantastic lately :|

[lulupop]

[quote author=leapfreak link=topic=24672.msg1570296#msg1570296 date=1269199801]
Urgh as if Sara Payne hasn't had enough shit going on already this year.  An aneurysm, stroke, paralysis and then finding out the psycho that murdered your daughter is getting off looking at pictures of her.

Our Ministry of Justice has been making themselves look fantastic lately :|
[/quote]
For sure! I feel for Sara so much, i'm sure her stroke must be down to the stress of campaigning etc I hope this news doesn't effect her in any way to do with her health, she certainly does not need that shit.

[leapfreak]

[quote author=lulupop link=topic=24672.msg1570306#msg1570306 date=1269200129]
For sure! I feel for Sara so much, i'm sure her stroke must be down to the stress of campaigning etc I hope this news doesn't effect her in any way to do with her health, she certainly does not need that shit.
[/quote]

Stuff like this must be a slap in the face for her.  She has done so much campaigning and trying to change laws because of what that man did to her daughter.  It would be bad enough if he just had pictures of other kids but to have pictures of Sarah as well is fucking unnbelievable.

The Ministry of Justice saying that things like this can affect a prisoner's parole decisions is a fucking joke.  Please tell me this man is never ever going to be considered for parole.  Peter Sutcliffe was in the papers a couple of weeks ago because he wants to be parolled.  Peter Sutcliffe for fucks sake!!  Anyone even considering letting that psycho loose needs their head examining

[lulupop]

[quote author=leapfreak link=topic=24672.msg1570313#msg1570313 date=1269200626]
Stuff like this must be a slap in the face for her.  She has done so much campaigning and trying to change laws because of what that man did to her daughter.  It would be bad enough if he just had pictures of other kids but to have pictures of Sarah as well is fucking unnbelievable.

The Ministry of Justice saying that things like this can affect a prisoner's parole decisions is a fucking joke.  Please tell me this man is never ever going to be considered for parole.  Peter Sutcliffe was in the papers a couple of weeks ago because he wants to be parolled.  Peter Sutcliffe for fucks sake!!  Anyone even considering letting that psycho loose needs their head examining
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There are certain people that shouldn't ever be released and whitley is def. one of those as is Peter Sutcliffe..i really can't believe he even thought he would be considered! He is the Yorkshite ripper ffs!

[Tarren]

[quote author=lulupop link=topic=24672.msg1570318#msg1570318 date=1269200855]
There are certain people that shouldn't ever be released and whitley is def. one of those as is Peter Sutcliffe..i really can't believe he even thought he would be considered! He is the Yorkshite ripper ffs!
[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, parole shouldn't even be a consideration for Whiting or Sutcliffe.

[leapfreak]

[quote author=lulupop link=topic=24672.msg1570318#msg1570318 date=1269200855]
There are certain people that shouldn't ever be released and whitley is def. one of those as is Peter Sutcliffe..i really can't believe he even thought he would be considered! He is the Yorkshite ripper ffs!
[/quote]

When I saw it on the news my first thought was "Is he having a laugh?!"  He obviously isn't sane if he thinks he stands any chance of being paroled.  He only killed 13 women and attacked numerous others.  It's not like he's a dangerous man :|

[bowieluva]

[quote author=leapfreak link=topic=24672.msg1570324#msg1570324 date=1269200995]
When I saw it on the news my first thought was "Is he having a laugh?!"  He obviously isn't sane if he [s]thinks he stands any chance of being paroled.  He only[/s] killed 13 women and attacked numerous others.  It's not like he's a dangerous man :|
[/quote]
Fixed

[leapfreak]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570338#msg1570338 date=1269201482]
Fixed
[/quote]

:lol:  Good point

[lulupop]

[quote author=Tarren link=topic=24672.msg1570323#msg1570323 date=1269200992]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yeah, parole shouldn't even be a consideration for Whiting or Sutcliffe.
[/quote]
Omg! my brain is so not working today but i'm quite pleased i misspelled it that way! hehe. I really should just go and hibinate.

[Ron_NYC]

I'm surprised all the pro-death penalty people who think that no killers are repentant didn't jump on this one yet.

[bowieluva]

[quote author=Ron_NYC link=topic=24672.msg1570419#msg1570419 date=1269203339]
I'm surprised all the pro-death penalty people who think that no killers are repentant didn't jump on this one yet.
[/quote]
It's england so the point is moot.

[Ron_NYC]

[quote author=bowieluva link=topic=24672.msg1570424#msg1570424 date=1269203432]
It's england so the point is moot.
[/quote]
I meant MDS posters, not IRL bitching. I was waiting for a bunch of "I told you so!"