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    Nanny Yoselyn Ortega (50), stabbed Lulu (6) and Leo (2) Krim to death and put their bodies in a bathtub

    Horror as mother comes home to find children, 2 and 6, stabbed to death in bathtub 'by their NANNY' at a luxury Manhattan apartment

    • Mother Marina Krim, walked into apartment to find her son and daughter, 2 and 6, dead in the bathtub
    • Nanny Yoselyn Ortega tried to kill herself before she was arrested
    • Father of the children, Kevin Krim, is the vice president and general manager of CNBC Digital

    A nanny at a luxury New York City apartment stabbed two children to death in a bathtub before trying to kill herself, police said today - and their anguished mother made the grim discovery.

    They said the children's mother found them after returning home with another child.

    The mother, Marina Krim, arrived home with her 3-year-old daughter Nessie to find Leo, 2, and Lulu, 6, dead in the apartment at a building called La Rochelle on Manhattan's Upper West Side.

    The father is Kevin Krim, the senior vice president and general manager of CNBC Digital, who had been on a business trip.

    Mr Krim was met by police at the airport when he returned to New York and was given an escort to the hospital where his loved ones had gathered.
    Scene of the crime: The murders occurred at La Rochelle, a luxury building on Manhattan's Upper West Side

    His wife originally thought her other two children were out with the nanny, 50-year-old Yoselyn Ortega, NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.

    She went downstairs and asked the doorman at her building whether he'd seen them leave. When he said no, she went back upstairs and discovered the bodies of Leo and Lulu in the bathtub, Kelly said.

    Rima Starr, who lives on the second floor near the Krim family, said she heard screams coming from the family's apartment at around 5:30pm.

    'There was some kind of screaming about, "You slit her throat!" she said. 'It was horrible.'

    It's unclear how many times the children were stabbed.

    The nanny was found on the bathroom floor with stab wounds to her neck, and a kitchen knife was close by, police said.

    There was no water in the bathtub, they said.

    Kelly said it's unclear how long the nanny had worked for the family and the police investigation was ongoing.

    Starr, the family's neighbor, said she believed the nanny had been hired just recently.

    A neighbor of the family, who said she had just met the nanny for the first time on Wednesday, told the New York Post: 'It's horrifying, it?s a very quiet building.'

    She described the woman as 'very quiet,' and just 'stared ahead.'

    Mrs Krim called 911. She and an unknown family member were hospitalized, but it is not believed that they were attacked.

    She kept a LiveJournal account, titled 'Life with the Krim Kids,' which she regularly updated.

    The last entry was posted about three hours before the murders.

    In it, Mrs Krim said: 'Leo speaks in the most adorable way possible.'

    Neighbors told NBC New York that they heard the mother's screams as she made the horrific discovery.

    Lucianne Minihan, whose husband Michael is the superintendent of the building, told DNAInfo: 'The whole building heard it. She was screaming at the top of her lungs. She was screaming, "Help me! Help me!"'

    Police said Ortega is in custody. She's hospitalized in critical condition.

    The family had moved to New York from San Francisco within the last few years.

    The children's father was named general manager of CNBC's digital media division in March, after working previously in digital media at Bloomberg.

    Their mother had a cooking blog and taught art classes to young children.

    The family lived in a stately, late 19th-century apartment building where one three-bedroom unit currently available for rent has an asking price of $10,000 per month.

    They had a greyhound, retired from racing, named Babar.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2AOpCf2sw





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    I just read about this. My god. I can't imagine.

    Here is the LJ - http://littlemisslucia.livejournal.com/

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    Here are all the kids -



    RIP baby


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    Deranged nanny allegedly kills two children of CNBC media executive Kevin Krim and wife Marina; Kids, 2 and 6, are found by mom in bathtub at luxury upper West Side apartment building: NYPD
    The nanny allegedly used a kitchen knife in the heinous attack; she was found unconscious and rushed to a hospital in critical condition


    A deranged nanny savagely murdered a media executive's two young kids inside a posh upper West Side apartment Thursday - and then slit her own throat in a botched suicide attempt, police said.

    The children's mother, Marina Krim, walked into her W. 75th St. apartment about 5:25 p.m. and found a scene of unimaginable horror: her 6-year-old daughter and 2-year-old son lying motionless in a blood-soaked bathtub. Each had multiple stab wounds.

    On the floor beside them was the kids' critically injured nanny, Yoselyn Ortega, and the kitchen knife she used to carry out the heinous attack, police said

    Krim, who had just arrived home with another child, her 3-year-old daughter, immediately started wailing - her piercing shrieks echoing outside the eight-story building known as La Rochelle.

    "I could hear really loud, hysterical screaming - world-class screaming," said an elderly neighbor, who lives down the hall from the Krim family on the second floor. "I didn?t want to go out of my apartment."

    The neighbor said he eventually opened his door and spotted his super standing outside the family's door.

    "He's also screaming at the top of his lungs," the neighbor said. "He said, 'The kids are dead! The kids are dead! And the nanny has something sticking out of her throat!'"

    The children, Lucia and Leo, were pronounced dead at St. Luke's Hospital. The 50-year-old Ortega, who was so close to the Krims that they spent time with her family in the Dominican Republic, was taken to Cornell Medical Center with wounds to her neck and throat. Ortega, who has not yet been charged, was listed in critical but stable condition.

    "It's about the worst thing you can hear or imagine," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said.

    The children's father - Kevin Krim, CNBC's general manager of digital content - was on a plane from California when the kids were found. Krim, a Harvard grad who previously held high-level jobs at Yahoo and Bloomberg, returned home Thursday night.

    The Krims relocated to New York from California about three years ago and had a dog, a greyhound named Babar, neighbors said.

    Just three hours before she discovered her two kids dead, Marina Krim posted a tender message about little Leo on her blog - "Life with the little Krim kids."

    "Leo speaks in the most adorable way possible," reads the 2:33 p.m. post.

    "Firstly, he speaks super clearly, so you can understand every word is (sic) he is saying. And he does things like, "(I) want a fresh bagel"and "Dito (what he calls himself) wants cold milk" and most adorable of all, "No thank you" - he never uses ?No? alone, it?s always paired with "thank you." "

    The blog is filled with pictures and videos of the Krims' adorable children - picking pumpkins, playing outside phone booths and sleeping next to their toys.

    There-s a picture of 3-year-old Nessie, a navy blue bow in her hair, on her first day of school. There-s a beaming Leo, flanked by his sisters in matching striped pajamas, staring at a plate of cupcakes with pink frosting. And an image of the thee kids huddled inside a bright red bin.

    "I am very proud that the 3 kids absolutely love to play together and never seem to get bored at home," the post reads. "They are constantly thinking up fun things to do in the house."

    Ortega, who lived in Hamilton Heights, was described by shocked neighbors as a kind-hearted woman who loved taking care of kids.

    "She just seems like a calm, normal person," said neighbor Kenia Gelao, 25. "She's always very good with my kids. She's never had no problems. I guess you never know what can happen. Sometimes, people just break."

    The Krims spent several days with Ortega's family in Santiago during a February vacation to the Dominican Republic.

    Marina Krim raved about the trip on her blog, posting photos of her kids with Ortega's family and locals chopping down coconuts in their nanny's sister's backyard.

    She refers to Ortega as Josie.

    "We spent the past 9 days in the Dominican Republic," she wrote on Feb. 28.

    "We spent half the time at our nanny, Josie's sisters home in Santiago . . . We met Josie's amazing familia!!! And the Dominican Republic is a wonderful country!! More pics to come!!"

    Police said Marina Krim discovered the bodies after she returned home from Nessie's swimming practice.

    The apartment was pitch-black and dead quiet, prompting her to go downstairs and ask a doorman if he saw Ortega leave with her kids, NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.

    After the doorman said no, she went back upstairs, flicked on the light in the blood-spattered bathroom and started screaming.

    "I heard a lot of screams, wailings coming from inside," said Johnny Din, 29, who lives on the block. "It was really loud and scary."

    Neighbor Sandy Marcus said the mother "looked beyond frantic."

    "She came home and found all of this," said Marcus, who lives on the third floor, one floor above the crime scene. "She was very distressed."

    "It's just unbelievable," said Charles Zimmerman, who also lives on the third floor.

    Hordes of cops stormed the building after the mother's neighbor heard her screams and dialed 911. Marina Krim, who neighbors said may have worked as a pediatrician, was seen afterward being escorted into an ambulance, tightly clutching her surviving daughter Nessie.

    "She was mumbling words, incoherent," said Stephanie Herman, 58. "I can't imagine experiencing something like this."

    "This is a very family-oriented area. You see moms and their strollers a lot. Many people hire nannies here. This is everyone?s worst nightmare."

    Sources said blood was found in the kitchen, suggesting that's where the attack may have started or where Ortega might have first tried to take her own life.

    It was unclear how long Ortega had worked for the family or what might have set her off, cops said. The police would not say how many times the children had been stabbed.

    The prewar, 81-unit La Rochelle - boasting white-gloved doormen and a lobby bathed in marble - is less than a block from Central Park. Three-bedroom apartments rent for nearly $11,000 a month.

    The barbaric crime in one of the city's wealthiest neighborhoods left neighbors horrified.

    "It's awful. It makes me sick to my stomach," said Jill Pace, 27, who lives in the area. "I can't even look at the building. You have to wonder what goes through someone?s mind to do such a horrible thing."

    Segundo Mores, 48, said the murders will likely make parents more vigilant when screening nannies.

    "Obviously, parents need to do criminal and even psychological background checks," Mores said. "These are your kids. Your most precious possession. Oftentimes, people hire nannies from word of mouth. That is not going to be enough anymore."

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...#ixzz2AOuUaZoh




    RIP sweet babies....
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    Such gorgeous children. I hope they didn't suffer.

    I have seen the future and I'm fairly relieved to say, it looks nothing like me.

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    They must have been so scared and confused.
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    Oh my god!!

    Is she still alive??


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    So the mother killed the kids?
    And affirmative action is a very nice term for racial discrimination against better-qualified white people in jobs, employment, promotions and scholarships, and college admittance.

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    Heh??


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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Oh my god!!

    Is she still alive??
    The nanny? Yes. In critical but stable condition last I read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nestlequikie View Post
    The nanny? Yes. In critical but stable condition last I read.
    They are just going to claim insanity. And maybe she is, but jesus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    They are just going to claim insanity. And maybe she is, but jesus.
    It seriously made me cry last night when I was posting this thread. For a family I never knew and will never meet.

    And what will the 4 year old's (who was with her mother when she found the other 2 kids) life be like?

    Ugh. How do you live your life after this?

    What in the hell is wrong with people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nestlequikie View Post
    It seriously made me cry last night when I was posting this thread. For a family I never knew and will never meet.

    And what will the 4 year old's (who was with her mother when she found the other 2 kids) life be like?

    Ugh. How do you live your life after this?

    What in the hell is wrong with people?
    This one definitely gave me a physical reaction too. I felt nauseous and couldn't even finish the stories. My heart breaks for those parents, they will NEVER recover from this.

    And that cuntrag Nanny wouldn't be alive if she did that to my kids. I'd have finished her off myself. Happily. Augh.

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    They had a greyhound, retired from racing, named Babar.
    THANK YOU FOR THIS FASCINATING PIECE OF INFORMATION. Viva Journalism. Also lol 'deranged killer allegedly murders children' style of NY Post. Gotta love them.


    This is pretty horrible. At least one kid wasn't home at the time. I'm willing to bet this nanny was schizophrenic and shit.

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    How confusing and heartbreaking for the remaining child too. Ugh.


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    Im curious what led them to believe it was the nanny first off and not a third unknown party. So devastating RIP sweet babies

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    Unless that kid planned this all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monter View Post
    Im curious what led them to believe it was the nanny first off and not a third unknown party. So devastating RIP sweet babies
    Because she had tried to kill herself by slitting her wrists.

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    So her wounds were obviously self inflicted? That makes sense....I can imagine walking into a horrific scene like that and not having any idea wtf was going on - i wouldn't immediately connect thAt this person i trusted was the perpetrator unless there was obvious evidence to that effect.
    I also agree bowie -schizophrenia or some kind of psychotic process looks like its in play here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monter View Post
    So her wounds were obviously self inflicted? That makes sense....I can imagine walking into a horrific scene like that and not having any idea wtf was going on - i wouldn't immediately connect thAt this person i trusted was the perpetrator unless there was obvious evidence to that effect.
    I also agree bowie -schizophrenia or some kind of psychotic process looks like its in play here.
    Yeah, it was obvious from the article I read yesterday.

    You only see detectives look for 'twists' on Law and Order . Usually the most logical timeline of events is the accurate one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Yeah, it was obvious from the article I read yesterday.

    You only see detectives look for 'twists' on Law and Order . Usually the most logical timeline of events is the accurate one.


    And according to L&O, random crime doesn't exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rachy View Post


    Ohhh, I share a mutual friend with Kevin Krim.

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    Is that second pic the nanny??? Looks like she didn't just try to slit her wrists.

    and that first pic. augh

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