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Thread: Warriena Tagpuno Wright (26) allegedly fell from Gable Tostee's balcony and he is on trial for her death

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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouscat View Post
    He saw her climbing over the railing and later he saw police cars. He might have been drunk, but I'm sure he could put 2+2 together.
    Doesn't matter. Has no relevance to his guilt anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by death2me View Post
    She threatened to call the police because she thought he had stolen her phone. He offered to call her phone for her. At the time she was completely irrational and accused him of stealing her sister's data? Huh?

    And as for her being tied up, there is no context. May have been by consent. Bondage?
    Bondage is fine, until she no longer consents ie "Untie me". I see nothing in that transcript that says she's calling the police because he took her phone. I clearly see her saying "Goodnight" then that she's calling the police then asking where her phone is when she went to call the police.

    Just stop. The transcript doesn't lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    No. He ordered a damn pizza. He was not worried for his safety, nor did he make an attempt to to resolve the situation.

    I know he ordered pizza, but what really matters here is what happened in the moments before she went over the railing. The pizza should have no bearing on the jury's decision.

    Which part of the situation are you saying he didn't try to resolve? I'm asking because when you read or listen to the whole recording instead of just snippets, he was actually quite tolerant of her odd and/or aggressive behavior until he just ... wasn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    She wanted to leave, he wanted her to stay so he could fuck her. It's clearly in the recording. If he feared for his well being, he sucks at showing it.

    And you're deflecting. You clearly stated that he made no attempt to keep her there:
    No. Tell me exactly where he forced her to stay before locking her on the balcony. There is no evidence of that. He tried to convince her but no evidence he forced her to stay physically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by death2me View Post
    No. Tell me exactly where he forced her to stay before locking her on the balcony. There is no evidence of that. He tried to convince her but no evidence he forced her to stay physically.
    You specifically said she refused to leave. She didn't refuse to leave, she wanted to leave and he tried to talk her in to staying.

    Are you drunk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Bondage is fine, until she no longer consents ie "Untie me". I see nothing in that transcript that says she's calling the police because he took her phone. I clearly see her saying "Goodnight" then that she's calling the police then asking where her phone is when she went to call the police.

    Just stop. The transcript doesn't lie.
    She eas irrational and talking about Gods and stuff. Her demeanour changed back and forward very quickly. The prosecution hasn't made anything of her being forced to stay and yet you think you have some great insight beyond those who have heard the tape? Please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    You specifically said she refused to leave. She didn't refuse to leave, she wanted to leave and he tried to talk her in to staying.

    Are you drunk?
    Oh god you haven't been paying attention. It is all there in the transcript. Rocks thrown. He tells her to get out. She doesnt. She hits him. She gets locked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by death2me View Post
    She eas irrational and talking about Gods and stuff. Her demeanour changed back and forward very quickly. The prosecution hasn't made anything of her being forced to stay and yet you think you have some great insight beyond those who have heard the tape? Please.
    Reading is hard.
    It's in the transcript that she wanted to leave. He didn't want her to. I'm not sure what you're not grasping here, but I don't have time for this.

    I provided the part of the transcript that showed you were not correct in your statement and that's all I can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by death2me View Post
    Oh god you haven't been paying attention. It is all there in the transcript. Rocks thrown. He tells her to get out. She doesnt. She hits him. She gets locked out.
    After she wanted to leave and he kept her there.
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    Nighty night sock puppets. Gotta run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Reading is hard.
    It's in the transcript that she wanted to leave. He didn't want her to. I'm not sure what you're not grasping here, but I don't have time for this.

    I provided the part of the transcript that showed you were not correct in your statement and that's all I can do.
    I'm not denying she wanted to leave at some point. But no evidence he forced her to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by death2me View Post
    I'm not denying she wanted to leave at some point. But no evidence he forced her to stay.
    .. locking someone on a balcony with no exit other than jumping/trying to get to the floor below is forcing her to stay, you ignorant, lazy fucknuckle.

    Boston told you, transcripts showed you - she asked to leave, he said no or leave without your shit. Why couldn't she take her stuff with her? Who would leave their bag with wallet/phone etc in it behind? I fucking wouldn't.

    At least be somewhat intelligent in your attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Bondage is fine, until she no longer consents ie "Untie me". I see nothing in that transcript that says she's calling the police because he took her phone. I clearly see her saying "Goodnight" then that she's calling the police then asking where her phone is when she went to call the police.

    Just stop. The transcript doesn't lie.
    Sorry, that's incorrect, the transcript does lie, and has been proven so at various times. This quote you made in the previous page

    '1.36am: Female: 'Are you going to f***ing untie me because I will F***ing destroy your jaw. It is not f****ing funny ... 'Get it for me'. Male: 'No, you get it.' Female: 'I am going to call the police.'

    well recent court exchanges were tweeted whereby the police now say that it was 'Are you going to Muay Thai me....'.

    So that is another example of how people are getting the wrong impressions left right and centre, because of poor police work in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Reading is hard.
    It's in the transcript that she wanted to leave. He didn't want her to. I'm not sure what you're not grasping here, but I don't have time for this.

    I provided the part of the transcript that showed you were not correct in your statement and that's all I can do.
    Im sorry to correct you again, but the Judge concerned has told the jurors the evidence is the audio of the evening not the transcript. Referring to the transcript as though it is a bible on this matter is fallacious. It has been shown to have numerous errors. Parts of the conversation are missing also. It is not reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella Wills View Post
    Im sorry to correct you again, but the Judge concerned has told the jurors the evidence is the audio of the evening not the transcript. Referring to the transcript as though it is a bible on this matter is fallacious. It has been shown to have numerous errors. Parts of the conversation are missing also. It is not reliable.
    I'm not sure why you think we're the jury determining the sentence?

    Fucking untie me sounds way better than Muay Thai.

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    And Muay Thai sounds like YOU'RE FLY!

    AND NOW WE'RE ALL FRIENDS

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    Quote Originally Posted by daisylane View Post
    .. locking someone on a balcony with no exit other than jumping/trying to get to the floor below is forcing her to stay, you ignorant, lazy fucknuckle.

    Boston told you, transcripts showed you - she asked to leave, he said no or leave without your shit. Why couldn't she take her stuff with her? Who would leave their bag with wallet/phone etc in it behind? I fucking wouldn't.

    At least be somewhat intelligent in your attempts.
    I'm sorry that you have no grasp of the Australian legal system. She was locked on the balcony because she was violent. Completely legal in Australia. Go and read the Queensland Criminal Code.

    But first you might need to learn to read and comprehend what you are reading. As I made abundantly clear, I said that there is no evidence he physically prevented her from leaving BEFORE he locked her on the balcony. This was in relation to Boston Babe's claims that he had stopped her from leaving earlier, specifically when she threatened to call the police.

    I would ask you to be somewhat intelligent in your own attempts but you have just demonstrated that is far beyond your capabilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella Wills View Post
    Im sorry to correct you again, but the Judge concerned has told the jurors the evidence is the audio of the evening not the transcript. Referring to the transcript as though it is a bible on this matter is fallacious. It has been shown to have numerous errors. Parts of the conversation are missing also. It is not reliable.
    Correct, the rule of best available evidence. Not transcripts and despite what some people here seem to think, definitely not the interpretation of the transcript by an American completely unfamiliar with Australian criminal law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stella Wills View Post
    Sorry, that's incorrect, the transcript does lie, and has been proven so at various times. This quote you made in the previous page

    '1.36am: Female: 'Are you going to f***ing untie me because I will F***ing destroy your jaw. It is not f****ing funny ... 'Get it for me'. Male: 'No, you get it.' Female: 'I am going to call the police.'

    well recent court exchanges were tweeted whereby the police now say that it was 'Are you going to Muay Thai me....'.

    So that is another example of how people are getting the wrong impressions left right and centre, because of poor police work in this case.
    Are you going to Muay Thai me fits much better with the context of the conversation at the time and her martial arts training.

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    Whoa whoa whoa

    death2me is definitely not imperial asshole or if he is at least his newest ID actually knows how to carry a conversation and deliver a compelling counter-argument without reducing to insults and misogyny. They also made a valid point about the different between the Aussie court system and the US's.

    I think it's highly likely that Gable fucknugget Toastee will be cleared of homicide, because I also think it's likely all he did was just depraved indifference, locking a drunk person in a dangerous place. I don't think it can be proved that he intended or suspected something like this could happen.

    It doesn't change the fact that he is without a doubt one of the biggest douchebags to ever walk the face of the earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Whoa whoa whoa

    death2me is definitely not imperial asshole or if he is at least his newest ID actually knows how to carry a conversation and deliver a compelling counter-argument without reducing to insults and misogyny. They also made a valid point about the different between the Aussie court system and the US's.

    I think it's highly likely that Gable fucknugget Toastee will be cleared of homicide, because I also think it's likely all he did was just depraved indifference, locking a drunk person in a dangerous place. I don't think it can be proved that he intended or suspected something like this could happen.

    It doesn't change the fact that he is without a doubt one of the biggest douchebags to ever walk the face of the earth.
    I agree with you that he's going to get off and that he's still a douchebag. What I was countering was the statement that she refused to leave and never tried to leave etc. That's simply not true. They were both nuttier than fruitcakes, that's for sure. But he holds some responsibility here in that he didn't let her leave before it got to the point where she did get violent ie he was thinking with his dick.

    These folks make it out as if he's some innocent victim that didn't contribute to this situation in any way.

    ETA: This is my basic argument in a nutshell. They're saying she should have left when he told her to. I'm saying, he should have let her when she previously tried to.
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    How the hell is there not a decent transcript out there, or am I just missing it? The only one I've found is half verbatim, half summary ("Further conversation about galaxies" and "heated conversation" etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    How the hell is there not a decent transcript out there, or am I just missing it? The only one I've found is half verbatim, half summary ("Further conversation about galaxies" and "heated conversation" etc.)

    Exactly. I was wondering that after Boston posted her part earlier. It was like the missing piece to the one Olivia posted a few pages back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daisylane View Post
    .. locking someone on a balcony with no exit other than jumping/trying to get to the floor below is forcing her to stay, you ignorant, lazy fucknuckle.

    Boston told you, transcripts showed you - she asked to leave, he said no or leave without your shit. Why couldn't she take her stuff with her? Who would leave their bag with wallet/phone etc in it behind? I fucking wouldn't.

    At least be somewhat intelligent in your attempts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daisylane View Post
    .. locking someone on a balcony with no exit other than jumping/trying to get to the floor below is forcing her to stay, you ignorant, lazy fucknuckle.
    Boston told you, transcripts showed you - she asked to leave, he said no or leave without your shit. Why couldn't she take her stuff with her? Who would leave their bag with wallet/phone etc in it behind? I fucking wouldn't.

    At least be somewhat intelligent in your attempts.[/QUOTE]
    It has been argued by QCs that Tostees behaviour was legal. Qld law allows restraint.

    If you only focus on Tostee's actions in absence of the whole context (meaning Ms Wrights behaviour), then you will arrive at a false conclusion. I believe this is what has happened with your comment.

    I believe Tostee didn't allow her to collect her things for the moment because he wanted her out immediately. In view of Wright's behaviour that makes sense.

    It would be obvious to think he was not not going to keep her belongings, and there is no evidence of that in his past behaviour. A person must leave a premise immediately when asked to do so, they do not get special rights to remain until their property is collected. That is the law.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    After she wanted to leave and he kept her there.
    Could you provide evidence of this? Nothing I have heard indicates that she tried to ever leave and was prevented from doing so. Rather the evidence is to the contrary, that she would not leave when told to.

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