Missing Arizona sisters, Lila Ammouri (54) and Susan Frazier (49) die in Switzerland by assisted suicide

[Bewitchingstorm]

This is an odd one.

Two Arizona sisters who were reported missing by their family in Switzerland died by assisted suicide, authorities say.

Lila Ammouri, a doctor, and registered nurse Susan Frazier flew to Basel, Switzerland on 3 February, and had been due to return to the United States on 13 February.

When they failed to show up for work at Aetna Health Insurance in Phoenix, friends and family appealed for help to find them.

Their deaths were confirmed by the State Department’s Bureau of Consular Affairs on 19 February, but no cause of death was given.

A spokesman for the Basel-Landschaft Public Prosecutor’s Office confirmed to The Independent that the sisters had died by suicide “within the legal framework”.

“The public prosecutor’s office of the Canton of Basel-Landschaft confirms that the two US women died during their stay in Switzerland. They both committed suicide – with the help of an assisted suicide organisation,” Michael Lutz told The Independent.

Mr Lutz said assisted suicide is legal in Switzerland “under certain conditions”.

“In the specific case, the on-site checks by the authorities revealed that the assisted suicide took place within the legal framework, so that the Basel-Landschaft public prosecutor’s office did not open a criminal investigation.”

Brother Cal Ammouri told Arizona’s Family last week that he had last spoken with one of his sisters a few weeks before they went missing, and didn’t know they had travelled to Switzerland.

“She didn’t tell me anything at all, not a thing,” he said.

“Everyday I check the mailbox and I wonder if maybe if they’ll get in touch with me somehow. I love them both and I want them to come back,” he told the news site.

According to an online profile, Dr Ammouri, 54, was a hospice and palliative care specialist in Flagstaff, Arizona.

She practised at Flagstaff Medical Center and was “board certified in Hospice Care and Palliative Medicine”.

After the two sisters were reported missing, friends and family suspected they might have been the victims of foul play.

Longtime friend David Biglari said the last text he received from Ms Ammouri had spelling mistakes that were completely out of character.

https://newsasia.co/arizona-sisters-...5gGruelicUqa8g

[raisedbywolves]

I want to know more about what was going on with them!

[Bewitchingstorm]

I want to know more about what was going on with them!

Me too. I searched but could not find any socials for them.

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This is the organization they used:

http://www.dignitas.ch/index.php?opt...&id=20&lang=en

[Boston Babe 73]

Well, one was a hospice doctor. She's seen what someone goes through when dying with dignity isn't an option. Whatever was going on with them, I support it because they obviously were well educated in the matter. Likely they knew that the family wouldn't be on board and would try to stop them so they snuck off to do it.

ETA: Per the Wikipedia page on Assisted Suicide in Switzerland:

While there is no regulation on permissible reasons for the suicide, the major Swiss non-profit organisations dedicated to assisted suicide may require that a*terminal illness*has been diagnosed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Switzerland

[raisedbywolves]

Well, one was a hospice doctor. She's seen what someone goes through when dying with dignity isn't an option. Whatever was going on with them, I support it because they obviously were well educated in the matter. Likely they knew that the family wouldn't be on board and would try to stop them so they snuck off to do it.

ETA: Per the Wikipedia page on Assisted Suicide in Switzerland:




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Switzerland

Oh, I absolutely support everyone's right to euthanasia. I'm just curious what was going on with BOTH of them. If it were just one I wouldn't think twice, but I'm curious about them both having a terminal illness/or disability/or undending pain at the same time.

[Boston Babe 73]

Oh, I absolutely support everyone's right to euthanasia. I'm just curious what was going on with BOTH of them. If it were just one I wouldn't think twice, but I'm curious about them both having a terminal illness/or disability/or undending pain at the same time.

Well, there are genetic diseases. Wouldn't be that far fetched if they both were diagnosed with something that would become debilitating. Would be curious to know as well.

[Bewitchingstorm]

I wonder why they didn't tell any family members...especially their brother who they seemed close to. Maybe it was to spare him the pain?

[raisedbywolves]

Well, there are genetic diseases. Wouldn't be that far fetched if they both were diagnosed with something that would become debilitating. Would be curious to know as well.

This is what I am thinking as well.

[Boston Babe 73]

I wonder why they didn't tell any family members...especially their brother who they seemed close to. Maybe it was to spare him the pain?

Either that or to prevent them from going. The family could possibly claim that they were a danger to themselves and have them committed since suicide is illegal in most states in the U.S. I guess they could have just said they were taking a trip together to Switzerland, however if they had even breathed the fact that Switzerland offers death with dignity in the past or that they didn't want to continue living with whatever they had, the family might have caught on.

[Angiebla]

I know it sounds sappy, but Im glad they got to die together.

Like RBW Im super curious about what was going on with them that made them decide to do this. Even if they werent terminal, I respect their rights. I could see why their family would be hurt. They didnt get to say goodbye.

[Bewitchingstorm]

Per DailyMail:

An Arizona doctor and her nurse sister died at a Swiss suicide clinic on February 11 - with the physician transferring her $1 million home into a trust weeks before they took their lives.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ome-trust.html

[Boston Babe 73]

From the article BWS posted:

Yeah, it's looking like they actually went to Pegasos which doesn't require them to have an illness. Perhaps they both just decided that they had had enough of this world.

[raisedbywolves]

Yeah, it's looking like they actually went to Pegasos which doesn't require them to have an illness. Perhaps they both just decided that they had had enough of this world.

I get that....

[Bewitchingstorm]

I get that....

I do too.

[Boston Babe 73]

I get that....

I do too.

Same.


ETA:

The part that puzzles me on this is why they decided to spend all of that money to go to a clinic when they could have just as easily done this on their own. One of them was a hospice Doctor. I'm positive that she could have obtained everything they needed to do it the same way here. I suppose it could be that they didn't loved ones to find them. That and having one nice trip in a beautiful country, but it does strike me as strange going through all of that trouble. To each their own.

[Bewitchingstorm]

Same.


ETA:

The part that puzzles me on this is why they decided to spend all of that money to go to a clinic when they could have just as easily done this on their own. One of them was a hospice Doctor. I'm positive that she could have obtained everything they needed to do it the same way here. I suppose it could be that they didn't loved ones to find them. That and having one nice trip in a beautiful country, but it does strike me as strange going through all of that trouble. To each their own.

That is my thing with this. They certainly had the resources and knowledge to complete the suicides here. It is odd all around.

[puzzld]

Well. OK then. It certainly wasn't a spur-of-the-moment thing. They planned this and had plenty of time to reconsider, so Rest in Peace ladies.

[Boston Babe 73]

Agreed. They had every right to do it and I'm glad that they had the resources to do it the most painless and dignified way possible.

This Brother sounds like a pain in the ass. He acts like he was super close with them, but hadn't seen them in 30 years? The parents divorced and he went to live with the Father so they weren't even raised together. He wanted them to call, but they rarely did? He didn't call them?

I have a feeling that there's a reason the Sisters avoided him.

[puzzld]

Agreed. They had every right to do it and I'm glad that they had the resources to do it the most painless and dignified way possible.

This Brother sounds like a pain in the ass. He acts like he was super close with them, but hadn't seen them in 30 years? The parents divorced and he went to live with the Father so they weren't even raised together. He wanted them to call, but they rarely did? He didn't call them?

I have a feeling that there's a reason the Sisters avoided him.

I have a problem with suicide. It tends to leave so much heartbreak in its wake. People so often seem to either do something permanent in the face of a temporary problem. My friends son wrecked his dads car and shot himself rather than face the music. But for people who have long term ongoing pain, or as in this case, seemingly a conviction that life isn't worth living anymore? Who am I to say they need to carry on.

[raisedbywolves]

Agreed. They had every right to do it and I'm glad that they had the resources to do it the most painless and dignified way possible.

This Brother sounds like a pain in the ass. He acts like he was super close with them, but hadn't seen them in 30 years? The parents divorced and he went to live with the Father so they weren't even raised together. He wanted them to call, but they rarely did? He didn't call them?

I have a feeling that there's a reason the Sisters avoided him.

I agree with all of this.

I highlighted the part about the 30 years because I was seriously side eyeing the brother after reading that...was wondering if it was just me but I see it's not.

[puzzld]

I agree with all of this.

I highlighted the part about the 30 years because I was seriously side eyeing the brother after reading that...was wondering if it was just me but I see it's not.

Yeah, you didn't bother to visit them, didn't have any idea of what they were dealing with? You don't get to claim to be the chief mourner. Their local friends and coworkers are much more deserving of sympathy...

[Angiebla]

I wonder if the sisters were married or had kids?

What puzzld said was spot on. They had been planning this for awhile.

[raisedbywolves]

I wonder if the sisters were married or had kids?

I am pretty sure they were not married and there were no kids.

Not gonna lie, if I ever lost my husband I would think about something like this.

[jennafyre]

I am pretty sure they were not married and there were no kids.

Not gonna lie, if I ever lost my husband I would think about something like this.

I totally feel this. I've never been married but if I lost my son I would check out. The grief would just be too gigantic.