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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Hello Hello Hello
    No trial today.....it's Friday. They will be back in court on Monday...10 am, I believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Is the trial even on today?
    no - not until monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    Is the trial even on today?
    Nope, back on Monday.

    ETA: I didn't see the above answers or the hello post. Guess that's one way to get people to answer
    Last edited by Jem; 03-22-2013 at 09:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    The whole camera thing doesn't make sense anyway. She didn't know the picture of her dragging Travis was even there.If she did, she would have taken the camera or at least the memory card. I believe it got accidentally scooped up and in the washer. Why did she testify about deleting some pics, yet later testified she knew deleting didn't mean anything because as a camera buff, she knew pics could be retrieved with sophisticated equipment. So, she listened to the camera specialist and learned it then.
    If she actually looked at the photos (the ones after the attack started) prior to deleting them, I doubt she would have realized what they were. She would have been viewing them on the camera and probably didn't realize the details they revealed. On the camera screen they probably didn't look like much, especially if she's rushing through it to get the hell out of there. She thought deleting them and throwing the camera in the washer would be good enough to destroy the memory card. It is ironic that this mistake made by an "aspiring photographer" was a big part in her downfall.

    All she had to do was take the card. Her chances of "selling" her story of self defense without the times stamps on those pictures would have improved greatly. No time stamps, no time limit. Her biggest problem is the story she's telling could not have happened in the time frame it is known to have happened. She just didn't have the time to run around like she claims. Both weapons were in the bathroom when the attack started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    I would like to hear more from her about the description of the rope. She said it as soft, like a decorative rope. 20 feet of decorative rope would get mighty tangled of it were not on a spool.
    Yep. And it would be damn expensive too. At least $6.00 a yard, possibly more depending on the thickness and where you purchased it. So just the portion Stabby says they "cut" to use for bondage would have cost over $40 (plus the cost of whatever portion they did not use). So let's say they only cut a little away, and say that at a minimum they had $50 worth of decorative rope.

    Really?? Travis bought $50 worth of decorative rope just in case Stabby came by again some day and was in the mood to be tied up? He walked into a fabric store and shopped for it and picked it out? And paid cash, to make sure it did not show up on his credit card receipts or bank statements after he died?

    Or budget conscious Stabby spent $50 on decorative rope? Where is the receipt? (she has them for everything else)

    And it would not take 20 feet of rope to tie someone to that bed, even if you did go all the way behind the headboard. Not even close to 20 feet. Half that amount would be more than enough to do the job.

    I think the reason Stabby is saying the rope is 20 feet long is because she needed an explanation as to WHY the knife ended up in the bathroom. The best she could come up with was "we were doing bondage and we had to cut the rope, and to do that, Travis had to back up aaaaaaall the way into the bathroom to get enough rope! And then he cut it with a biiiiiiig knife! And he left that knife in the bathroom! Wow, what a coincidence!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Some comic relief from JAII:

    Joe Yinzer says:
    March 22, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Hi, First time poster here and a Jodi supporter. I have to tell you all that I normally lean toward the prosecution in just about any trial for the simple fact that they have the burden of proof. That has changed dramatically as Jodi’s trial has gone along. I absolutely despise Juan Martinez. Also HLN and their anchors, VP, NG, JVM should be ashamed of themselves for pouring fuel all over the Jodi haters. I stopped watching HLN 3 days after I began following this trial. They had me incensed. I watch the trial online thru this site or other Phoenix tv stations. It’s sad how so many people allow others to tell them what to think instead of forming their own opinions and conclusions.Thanks for reading. I follow this site daily and have learned everything I know about Jodi and this case from it. Hang in there Jodi.

    So you think Stabby is innocent/should go free because you dislike the prosecutor and the media coverage?You learned everything about this case from JAII? Oh Vey!

    steve says:
    March 22, 2013 at 10:39 am

    The biggest problem here is the grandparents stolen gun. Jodi has been proven to have lied so much, the jury will automatically assume she stole the gun and used it in this crime.

    The defense absolutely has to do more with this issue,but they can’t.The gun has to be recovered and proven not to have been used for Jodi to get a self defense verdict.

    Listening to the accusatory and generally disbelieving nature of the jury questions,I feel self defense will be ruled out by the jury.

    Not going to happen Steve-O, Stabby can't produce the gun because that's a one way ticket to death row. Glad to see you are starting to get that self-defense is a no go. Might be hope for you yet!


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    March 22, 2013 at 9:51 am

    I’m happy there is a day off for Nurmi. He looked sick to me all week. His eyes were puffy and he just acted off. He didn’t sit by Jodi at all. But I did see his face turn beat red and he more or less throw his pad at the table at one point. Did anyone notice that towards the end of the day he started to stand between JM and JW….at sidebars.


    Oh my. Poor Nurmi, he built a defense based on lies and it's collapsing like a house of cards thanks to Dr. Feel Good. no wonder he looks ill.


    AJ says:
    March 22, 2013 at 9:08 am
    I do really appreciate the hard work team Jodi does here and you all are taking action rather than resorting to such vile pure hatred.

    What hard work? Scamming money out of rubes like you with their paypal account and posting as sock puppets all day and night?

    kitty says:
    March 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm

    I think JM not only knows he’s lost ground, he knows his “expert” cannot measure up to Dr Samuel’s experience and training….and he is just plain mad. All he can do to pre-emptively cover for his “expert’s” lesser experience and training, is try to tear down Dr. Samuels.

    Bwahaha


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    March 21, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    Oh that’s tooooooo funny! But I threw up a little in my mouth thinking of him having sex. Nurmi is a big boy, but if there were only me and 2 men left in the world and I had to do one of them, I’d pick Nurmi in a heartbeat. At least, from what I’ve seen of him, I’d expect him to be kind and considerate and worried about my pleasure.

    This just made me throw up my mouth a little
    Freaks!! Nurmi is so nasty. I wouldn't even want to shake his hand with his fingers up his nose continually. I see "Also Abused" is still using poor judgment with men. What behavior has he displayed that makes her think he would be concerned with her big O?

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    There is apparently a total of four hours of the interrogation videos. Keep seeing little bits and pieces of the new stuff and I really hope some parts of this are going to come in on rebuttal. In one of new the new portions just released Stabby was crying her cold dead heart out and Flores asks her if it's finally dawning on her and Stabby says basically "No,I'm crying because of everything I'm going to miss out on"

    I'd love to see the whole four hours and the order in which all of these things happen/are said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Yep. And it would be damn expensive too. At least $6.00 a yard, possibly more depending on the thickness and where you purchased it. So just the portion Stabby says they "cut" to use for bondage would have cost over $40 (plus the cost of whatever portion they did not use). So let's say they only cut a little away, and say that at a minimum they had $50 worth of decorative rope.

    Really?? Travis bought $50 worth of decorative rope just in case Stabby came by again some day and was in the mood to be tied up? He walked into a fabric store and shopped for it and picked it out? And paid cash, to make sure it did not show up on his credit card receipts or bank statements after he died?

    Or budget conscious Stabby spent $50 on decorative rope? Where is the receipt? (she has them for everything else)

    And it would not take 20 feet of rope to tie someone to that bed, even if you did go all the way behind the headboard. Not even close to 20 feet. Half that amount would be more than enough to do the job.

    I think the reason Stabby is saying the rope is 20 feet long is because she needed an explanation as to WHY the knife ended up in the bathroom. The best she could come up with was "we were doing bondage and we had to cut the rope, and to do that, Travis had to back up aaaaaaall the way into the bathroom to get enough rope! And then he cut it with a biiiiiiig knife! And he left that knife in the bathroom! Wow, what a coincidence!"

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    That has always been my belief........This was concocted to explain why a knife was handy for her to grab, and also explain why there were fibers found in and around the master bathroom. To both hold the rope.....her in the bedroom and him, going all the way into the bathroom to stretch it out is absurd. To use a rope that long, for what SHE says they were doing, is absurd. Jodi....is absurd. All nonsense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    I agree with the build up of adrenaline. That's a good point. She was probably getting excited thinking about it and her heart rate increased over a period of time. I think the adrenaline probably fluctuated leading up to the killing.

    I don't agree with the bold statement. A build up of adrenaline is not necessary to be able to have the ability to do what she did. It's that sudden push of adrenaline that gives a person the extraordinary strength, the 'flight or fight' strength. I think when Travis started fighting back is when she dropped a crap ton of adrenaline.

    Often times, even after the 'event' is over, there is still residual 'high' from it.


    Sometimes when my pager goes off, I jump up, start shaking, lose my breath, feel dizzy, my voice is shaky. Sometimes it goes off and I am slow to go. Cool and calm. I'm not sure why sometimes it gets me and other times it doesn't.

    Sometimes when I get home from a call, I am still pumped up. The call could have been 3-5 hours or longer, but I still have the rush when it's all said and done.

    Just examples, from my own experience, of adrenaline at work.
    I barely missed an accident with a semi on the interstate once and ended up off the road. When I attempted to get back on the interstate I found I could not drive because when I put my foot on the brake, my foot was wildly jumping all around sort of like a tremor. I couldn't control it for a good 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    There is apparently a total of four hours of the interrogation videos. Keep seeing little bits and pieces of the new stuff and I really hope some parts of this are going to come in on rebuttal. In one of new the new portions just released Stabby was crying her cold dead heart out and Flores asks her if it's finally dawning on her and Stabby says basically "No,I'm crying because of everything I'm going to miss out on"

    I'd love to see the whole four hours and the order in which all of these things happen/are said.
    Do you know where I can view that part of the video at?


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    I live in southern California and there are alot of sociopaths driving all the time here lol.Can you function in "the fog" .I've had concussions and I was told not to sleep.Solders who have had flash bang expierences are told not to do certain things.Being a socopath isn't being in a ptsd fog.It seems to me that this fog is worse than what I have described above .And yes I know this is all bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    I think she brought her own knife. When she was arrested, they found 2 knives hidden in her box of books (IIRC) and the gun hidden in the rental after that. I think travis was just the first of a long list of ex's that were about to get it.
    I think she was going to take down Chris and Skye Hughes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Yep. And it would be damn expensive too. At least $6.00 a yard, possibly more depending on the thickness and where you purchased it. So just the portion Stabby says they "cut" to use for bondage would have cost over $40 (plus the cost of whatever portion they did not use). So let's say they only cut a little away, and say that at a minimum they had $50 worth of decorative rope.

    Really?? Travis bought $50 worth of decorative rope just in case Stabby came by again some day and was in the mood to be tied up? He walked into a fabric store and shopped for it and picked it out? And paid cash, to make sure it did not show up on his credit card receipts or bank statements after he died?

    Or budget conscious Stabby spent $50 on decorative rope? Where is the receipt? (she has them for everything else)

    And it would not take 20 feet of rope to tie someone to that bed, even if you did go all the way behind the headboard. Not even close to 20 feet. Half that amount would be more than enough to do the job.

    I think the reason Stabby is saying the rope is 20 feet long is because she needed an explanation as to WHY the knife ended up in the bathroom. The best she could come up with was "we were doing bondage and we had to cut the rope, and to do that, Travis had to back up aaaaaaall the way into the bathroom to get enough rope! And then he cut it with a biiiiiiig knife! And he left that knife in the bathroom! Wow, what a coincidence!"

    ABSURD



    Exactly. If you're going to cut a rope for that use, why walk out the rope down the hallway? It would make no sense. You would be cutting the rope by the headboard to get it to the length you need.

    In the knife block in the kitchen was a heavy utility scissor, why wouldn't he have used that? Why take a big knife and risk cutting himself when he has the scissors? The whole story is nonsense.

    She brought the knife with her. She couldn't have done this with a kitchen knife and not cut the hell out of her hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Some comic relief from JAII:

    Joe Yinzer says:
    March 22, 2013 at 10:59 am

    Hi, First time poster here and a Jodi supporter.

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    Joe Yinzer, eh? That guy is definitely from Pittsburgh.
    Also, I cannot stand "Also Abused" she annoys the shit out of me.

    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Do you know where I can view that part of the video at?
    Search YouTube for detective Flores and Jodi arias interview tapes. Tons of results will be available. That's where I viewed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    The rope you can buy at sex shops is soft, it is meant to feel nice-ish against the skin, it is not uncommon for it to come loosely in a plastic container. I suppose one could wrap it around the packaging to keep it straight, but if you are stretching it out, wrapping it around the head board, what ever, it is not going to tangle to easily.

    Though I do not believe she ever had a rope.. so I guess my opinion doesnt make much difference lol
    And if Travis (as perJ JA) refused to buy KY at the local CVS, you can bet he sure wasn't going to buy "please tie me up" rope at the sex shop! If it was used (I don't beileve it) she bought it, she brought it, she "asked for it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by TC1234 View Post
    Exactly. If you're going to cut a rope for that use, why walk out the rope down the hallway? It would make no sense. You would be cutting the rope by the headboard to get it to the length you need.

    In the knife block in the kitchen was a heavy utility scissor, why wouldn't he have used that? Why take a big knife and risk cutting himself when he has the scissors? The whole story is nonsense.

    She brought the knife with her. She couldn't have done this with a kitchen knife and not cut the hell out of her hands.
    I agree. Walking the rope down the hall to determine how much you need is nonsensical. It would just be a blind guess. Cutting the rope by the headboard, you could actually run it behind the headboard, then estimate how much you needed on each side to tie the wrists, then cut it.

    However, Stabby did not tell the story that way because that would not put the knife in the bathroom, which she needed to make her "self defense/amnesia/battered woman" story work with the time stamps on the pictures.

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    someone has listed a "self-portrait" by Slashy and another seller named Justice 4 Travis, a photo of the courthouse.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppycock View Post
    someone has listed a "self-portrait" by Slashy and another seller named Justice 4 Travis, a photo of the courthouse.

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40
    Holy f*cking creeepy! Take a look at her self portrait

    http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_from...mplete=1&rt=nc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya View Post
    I don't get why it's not considered very premeditated to Dr boss hog because the crime scene was unorganized. It seemed pretty unorganized for someone who wasn't a professional killer or 'cleaner'. She did her best to show she was NOT there and tried to dispose of evidence of such. The murder got out of control an she had to get out of there. It seemed organized because of the steps she took to not show she was there! Just because the scene was a mess and not immaculate doesnt make it unpremeditated. The murderer's actions before and after demonstrate a conscientious effort to evade detection of her presence in Arizona.
    Also, I don't believe she went over the dam route. It's waaaay out of the way and she could get up to SLC straight through flagstaff and into Utah that way... But she must have if her cell pinged near Kingman... Someone mentioned the evidence is probably in lake mead; I think that's correct because why go so far off track to go into Utah that direction as opposed to an easier route through flagstaff up the 89...
    Would taking 93 really take her that much out of her way? 89 looks likes it meanders around. Don't forget she didn't want anyone to know she was in Mesa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Do you know where I can view that part of the video at?



    Tawnidilly's you tube channel is the best resource for stuff like this and the daily court sessions she records and posts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    I think she was going to take down Chris and Skye Hughes.
    I more than likely missed something here, would you mind elaborating on this? I thought they were friends before all this happened.

    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    And if Travis (as perJ JA) refused to buy KY at the local CVS, you can bet he sure wasn't going to buy "please tie me up" rope at the sex shop! If it was used (I don't beileve it) she bought it, she brought it, she "asked for it."
    I didnt even think of that! Did she claim travis bought the rope?

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    Okay....okay. I just looked up some of the interrogation tapes on Youtube. I was watching the part where Jodi is in the orange jumpsuit, and Det. Flores is questioning her about the cuts on her hands. She is hold out both hands, turning them....splaying her fingers. Pointing out all of the "cat scratches", even having Flores feel her finger with the cut on it. Am I blind, or do ALL of her fingers appear as straight as can be? I don't see any signs of her "bent" finger?? How the heck can THAT be??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Holy f*cking creeepy! Take a look at her self portrait

    http://www.ebay.com/csc/i.html?_from...mplete=1&rt=nc
    (i was referring to the 'horse' portrait by stabby currently for sale, i think someone else drew those terrible drawings of stabby that are closed auctions)

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    I was just looking up lyrics to an old song called You'll Never Get Away, but couldn't find it. These Lyrics of another song came up, I think from Gypsy were haunting.
    You'll never get away from me
    You can climb the tallest tree
    I'll be there somehow
    True, you could say "Hey, here's your hat"
    But a little thing like that
    Couldn't stop me now
    I couldn't get away from you,
    even if you told me to
    so go on and try
    Just try, you're gonna see
    how you're not gonna, not at all
    get away from me.

    Now, is this spooky?

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