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    Quote Originally Posted by eliqueang View Post
    I'm lost. Do the jurors know about all this crap with matt yet? Apparently he wanted the jodi booty bad. ALSO SCHPADOINKLE!!!! I said your name out loud and realized its from cannibal the musical hahaha. I loved that movie!
    The jurors know he's an X of hers and probably anticipated him to testify, now after Thursday's testimony and the new evidence suggesting fuckery of a whole other level, it's gonna be good when it hits.

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    i like the word 'twat'.

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    Phone records from Day 21 of Trial

    Text Messages
    1/21/08-5:38pm- Jodi says: I can’t remember am I coming in for u on Wed at 10:30?
    1/21/08-6:41pm- Jodi says: Can we trade cars before FHE?
    1/21/08-7:19pm- Jodi says: Never mind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8pm. I’ll just go tomorrow.
    1/21/08-7:20pm- Jodi resends 7:19pm text message
    1/21/08-7:24pm- Travis says: I got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you made the exchange.
    1/21/08-7:25pm- Jodi says: I’m almost asleep. Well see Zzz…
    1/21/08-7:27pm- Travis says: You obviously don’t need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car. Now you’re going to sleep?
    1/21/08-7:29pm- Jodi says: I fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. That’s when I sent u the text.
    1/21/08-7:36pm- Jodi says: I have a really bad headache. I can barely move.
    1/21/08-9:11pm- Travis says: Alright get it tomorrow then.
    1/21/08-9:16pm- Jodi says: Can you talk right now?
    1/21/08-9:17pm- Travis says: Not right now
    1/22/08-11:33am- Jodi says: How long?
    1/22/08-11:50am- Travis says: Did you use my phone this morning without asking?
    1/22/08-11:52am- Jodi says: I only used it after I asked u in the office. Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:19pm- Jodi says: Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:42pm- Travis says: Nothing
    1/22/08-12:20pm- Jodi says: Did you make the deposit?
    1/22/08-12:22pm- Travis says: Yes
    1/22/08-12:25pm- Jodi says: Thank you I’ll make it up to you soon.
    1/22/08-3:36pm- Jodi says: I’m going to need a ride! I’m off at 4pm. Txt me.
    1/22/08-4:04pm- Jodi says: Scratch that. Their keeping me here until 5pm!=( Can u pick me up then? The lunch offer from my v-mail still stands.
    1/22/08-4:08pm- Travis says: sure
    1/22/08-4:37pm- Jodi says: I’m almost off! Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the counter.
    Phone Calls
    1/21/08
    3:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:09pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:29pm Travis returns Jodi’s call
    4:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:54pm Travis returns Jodi’s call
    5:11pm Travis returns Jodi’s call
    5:20pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:48pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:53pm Jodi returns Travis’s call


    From the fb page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxeshomemadecupcakes View Post
    Okay, first post...please be kind...

    I was following this case for a while, but three (now almost four) weeks ago my mom passed away suddenly/unexpectedly so I've been coming on to read up but now there's just too many pages popping up and I'm getting lost.

    Have they touched on June 4 yet?
    Can someone give me a super quick rundown for this week? I know thats a lot to ask so if not that's fine.
    Any good clips/quotes/lies? haha

    Anyways I'm Melanie by the way.
    Hi Melanie! Welcome, and my most heartfelt sympathies on the passing of your mom. I've lost mine too, and no matter our age, losing a mom is very hard (((hugs)))...I'm a newbie too, joined a week or two ago. Was so far behind on many of the details of the case, but the peeps here are so helpful and knowledgeable (and funny!), and before long you'll be up to speed; many great recaps here that I'm sure others will direct you to. Full trial days are available on YouTube as well, which are fun watching (except for Nurmi's direct of JA--->snooze), and helpful to fill in the details.
    You're going to enjoy Juan's taken of JA. He's awesome!
    Again, welcome!

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    I have been reading one of the transcripts for Dr.Drew and Beth Karas said that Jodi had a "stare out" with Travis family her first day on the stand. Does anyone else remember this and if so can you tell me at what part of the testimony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncomfortablyNumb View Post
    I saw on the state vs jodi arias fb page that HLN said that Matt Macartney had indeed forged the pedophile letters...has that been talked about in here? I've missed a couple pages, so I apologize if it has been. This is what the fb post said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    The State vs Jodi Arias ~ Travis Alexander murder trial
    16 minutes ago
    CONFIRMED : Matt McCartney was involved in the forged paedophile letters.

    SHANNA HOGAN, author of Picture Perfect [via phone with Jane Velez-Mitchell]: Yes. That was one of the most shocking moments in court. We've known about this for a while. She communicated with her ex boyfriend, Matthew McCartney, through jail and he was involved in creating these letters that were later proven to be forgeries. And that was the only substantial evidence that was given to produce her -- to back up her statement.

    So when he gave his first interview to the attorneys, he gave a very different story. And Jodi needed him back into the jail to talk about her version of events so he could come back and support her claim. So it was - - it was basically her soliciting false testimony from behind bars.

    There has been one person mentioned almost as much as Jodi and Travis. That's Matt. He may be full of BS, but somebody is going to have to call him. If they don't call him, the jury is going to be wondering why.

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    Welcome Melanie, big hugs to you! I'm new here too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    Phone records from Day 21 of Trial

    Text Messages
    1/21/08-5:38pm- Jodi says: I can’t remember am I coming in for u on Wed at 10:30?
    1/21/08-6:41pm- Jodi says: Can we trade cars before FHE?
    1/21/08-7:19pm- Jodi says: Never mind. One of the stores I need to go to closes at 8pm. I’ll just go tomorrow.
    1/21/08-7:20pm- Jodi resends 7:19pm text message
    1/21/08-7:24pm- Travis says: I got a ride from some peeps in the ward now you can just go get it. Let me know when you made the exchange.
    1/21/08-7:25pm- Jodi says: I’m almost asleep. Well see Zzz…
    1/21/08-7:27pm- Travis says: You obviously don’t need it that bad. I got a ride so you could go get the car. Now you’re going to sleep?
    1/21/08-7:29pm- Jodi says: I fell asleep and a phone call woke me up. That’s when I sent u the text.
    1/21/08-7:36pm- Jodi says: I have a really bad headache. I can barely move.
    1/21/08-9:11pm- Travis says: Alright get it tomorrow then.
    1/21/08-9:16pm- Jodi says: Can you talk right now?
    1/21/08-9:17pm- Travis says: Not right now
    1/22/08-11:33am- Jodi says: How long?
    1/22/08-11:50am- Travis says: Did you use my phone this morning without asking?
    1/22/08-11:52am- Jodi says: I only used it after I asked u in the office. Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:19pm- Jodi says: Why?
    1/22/08-12:03:42pm- Travis says: Nothing
    1/22/08-12:20pm- Jodi says: Did you make the deposit?
    1/22/08-12:22pm- Travis says: Yes
    1/22/08-12:25pm- Jodi says: Thank you I’ll make it up to you soon.
    1/22/08-3:36pm- Jodi says: I’m going to need a ride! I’m off at 4pm. Txt me.
    1/22/08-4:04pm- Jodi says: Scratch that. Their keeping me here until 5pm!=( Can u pick me up then? The lunch offer from my v-mail still stands.
    1/22/08-4:08pm- Travis says: sure
    1/22/08-4:37pm- Jodi says: I’m almost off! Yea! Are u eating? If so, just sit at the counter.
    Phone Calls
    1/21/08
    3:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:09pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:29pm Travis returns Jodi’s call
    4:53pm Jodi calls Travis
    4:54pm Travis returns Jodi’s call
    5:11pm Travis returns Jodi’s call
    5:20pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:48pm Travis calls Jodi
    5:53pm Jodi returns Travis’s call


    From the fb page.
    Is it just me or does this exchange make Jodi look like an inconsiderate bitch? Creepy phone user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by songbirdsong View Post
    Is it just me or does this exchange make Jodi look like an inconsiderate bitch? Creepy phone user.
    Definitely makes her look like a liar, there was literally no time for the whole scenario she claims to have happened.

    Also I think a certain Mr Matt Mcartney has some explaining to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    There has been one person mentioned almost as much as Jodi and Travis. That's Matt. He may be full of BS, but somebody is going to have to call him. If they don't call him, the jury is going to be wondering why.
    I know Matt was one of many of JA's former boyfriends from early on, that she "loved him" (except for the fact he cheated on her), and I know he's implicated in the forgeries of the pedophile letters. But what was it that he told attorneys that differed from Jodi's story? How did he come back into the picture? Hadn't he been out of her life for years?
    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    I know Matt was one of many of JA's former boyfriends from early on, that she "loved him" (except for the fact he cheated on her), and I know he's implicated in the forgeries of the pedophile letters. But what was it that he told attorneys that differed from Jodi's story? How did he come back into the picture? Hadn't he been out of her life for years?
    Thanks!
    I'd like to know that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    Definitely makes her look like a liar, there was literally no time for the whole scenario she claims to have happened.

    Also I think a certain Mr Matt Mcartney has some explaining to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    I know Matt was one of many of JA's former boyfriends from early on, that she "loved him" (except for the fact he cheated on her), and I know he's implicated in the forgeries of the pedophile letters. But what was it that he told attorneys that differed from Jodi's story? How did he come back into the picture? Hadn't he been out of her life for years?
    Thanks!
    I bet the rebuttal witness JM calls is Bianca or Steve. You could tell from Thursday's hearing, JM had talked to either Bianca or Steve about Jodi coming over there. I can't see Matt being very forthcoming with that information, so I bet JM talked to Bianca/Steve about what really went on..... Steve (the "maybe" gay guy) probably has some good dirt on Jodi. If I had to guess-it's going to be Steve. Since he was helping Bianca hide from Jodi that night-I bet he knows Jodi is crazy.

    There are going to be fireworks if Matt takes the stand. JM is going to tear into him. I suspect he will be the last witness Nurmi calls.

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    How often do you check out (youaredelusional.com) http://jodiariasisinnocent.com/ sorry but my slack humour, past my bedtime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    I don't see any remorse from her either. I previously looked up psycho and sociopath and couldn't decide which one fit for Jodi, some histrionic in there too. I'm learning more about these personality disorders by following these high profile trials, especially this one. I've been watching 48 Hours for a long time, but I don't recall ever being as creeped out as I was after I watched Jodi in her 2008 interview. Her story was so obviously made up, but she told it so softly and sweetly with darkness in her eyes. All I could think of was evil. I also got the impression from the interview that she took advantage of his weaknesses and introduced him to sex all in an effort to get him.
    According to the DSM IV, both psychopathy and sociopathy fall under antisocial personality disorder, so you don't have to decide.

    I also started following this case after the 48 Hours episode Picture Perfect. I went into it thinking that she could not possibly be guilty, but then as they laid the evidence down, I slowly came to the realization that she was totally guilty. It is creepy!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rachy View Post
    Donavan Bering [Arias' friend and ex cellmate, see our photos section] messaged the author of Picture Perfect, Shanna Hogan, with the following:

    "Why are you writing a book about my best friend you don't even know? I am asking hundreds to boycott your book as it is all lies... You have never made an attempt to know who Jodi is. You think you will make lots of money on this but when her book comes out and contains all facts and truths yours will be proven as just a way you think you can make money..."
    Just because of this, I am going to buy TWO books!

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Wouldn't it have been great if her secret message had been, "I killed Travis in cold blood. It was totally premeditated. Shhhh, this is a secret. Don't tell anyone."


    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I have to say something. ImBatman talks about borderline personality disorder. BPD is way less than Bipolar and I applaud the new show Homeland to show that these problems are chemical and there is treatment. To say someone is bipolar or BPD is like saying the fact the kid that did the Newtown shootings means if someone is mildly autistic, hide your guns.
    Even if someone has antisocial personality disorder (psychopathy), it does not mean they are going to kill someone. Most, actually, do not.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    So true, it is such a flawed system. However, I am glad that she will face all of those years knowing that people didn't buy into her crap and that she is set to lose her life. She obviously wants SOOOO bad not to get the death penalty (look how many times they've tried to have that removed as a possibility). I'd love to have her just rot in jail for those years thinking constantly about how her life is sentenced and coming to an end. It is what she fears the most, so it is exactly what she deserves!!!

    I hope, I hope, I hope she gets DP.
    This. What is it exactly that she fears so much knowing that it will be decades before this comes to pass and she has proven herself to be quite adept at manipulating and delaying so far? I mean it surely is not the norm to take four years to even come to trial!

    On another note, after watching the documentary that was posted, why do you think that crazy Jodi did not use the pregnancy angle to trap Travis? That was her ultimate goal it seems. She wanted to be his wife, to possess him etc etc so why not use a child to entrap him? It would have embarrassed him into possibly marrying her because of consequences within the church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    I'd like to know that too.


    Just read on another site that originally Jodi was prepared to say that Travis was caught watching/downloading kiddie porn on his computer. But after finding out that the investigators had found nothing on his computer, changed her story to the "pics on the bed" version. Matt apparently didn't get the notice, and when interviewed, recounted the porn on the computer version.

    Also, her hair color. I think Matt said when interviewed that she had blond hair when she stopped at his place on the way to kill Travis. She claims/claimed her hair was brown at the time, but it wasn't, that is not until she stopped in Salinas after visiting Matt, to get it dyed brown/auburn to avoid being noticed (like she turned down the "flashy" red car rental), though she claims she just stopped to have her nails done.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Still Ticking View Post
    I'm going to re-watch the trial and I'll pay closer attention. But when I watched it the first time, it seemed like the defense was caught off guard. Palin was really twitching her mouth as she and Nurmi were looking through the first mag. Is it possible that this got passed them?
    I think they WERE caught off guard and upset by it. However, ALL evidence has to be submitted to each team - defense and prosecution. It is possible that they never noticed the writing. I don't believe the prosecution has to explain the evidence and they may not have looked closely enough to see all of that. May have just dismissed them as unimportant. But all evidence must be disclosed in the discovery phase of any case or else it is cause for a mistrial. If Juan had pulled that out of nowhere and never disclosed it, he would not be permitted to use it and if whatever of it he did say swayed the jury in any way than it could be a legitimate cause for mistrial. So, they knew about them, but they may not have known why they were important - which is their own fault and points to sloppy work if that is the case! But it sure was fun to watch!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeLosMuertos View Post
    Oh I wasn't saying I believed her... I was just repeating her claims. She knows what happened. As her journal said.... She loves him so completely she doesn't know any other way to be.

    I still kind of wonder if Travis played her a bit with raising the sexual stakes trying to scare her off. Fight fire with fire so to speak. Nothing else worked. He straight up told her to go away and she didn't. She had zero respect for privacy, boundaries, or him as just a friend. I have had some friends for years and I would never just walk into their house even if they were expecting me, and vice versa.
    Oh no, I didn't think that YOU believed it. This was more just my aggrevation with ANYONE that would believe the stupidity of her claim that she didn't know he was shot. I mean, seriously ridiculous!!

    And agreed, respect for privacy is not one of her strong points. And it is interesting that there are a number of texts from Travis saying just that. He calls her out multiple times for having no respect for his privacy. She's a creepy creeper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    Just read on another site that originally Jodi was prepared to say that Travis was caught watching/downloading kiddie porn on his computer. But after finding out that the investigators had found nothing on his computer, changed her story to the "pics on the bed" version. Matt apparently didn't get the notice, and when interviewed, recounted the porn on the computer version.

    Also, her hair color. I think Matt said when interviewed that she had blond hair when she stopped at his place on the way to kill Travis. She claims/claimed her hair was brown at the time, but it wasn't, that is not until she stopped in Salinas after visiting Matt, to get it dyed brown/auburn to avoid being noticed (like she turned down the "flashy" red car rental), though she claims she just stopped to have her nails done.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong!
    So Matt got his stories wrong and JA got more than a little bit ticked hence the magazines with top secret codes in. I hope this all comes out next week, that is HUGE!.

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    Does anyone know when Jodi stole Travis' journals?

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    Something I'd really like to see is Matt and Darryl's depositions.
    I was wondering why on earth Matt would have gone to Darryl's house on 3 June, obviously to meet Jodi, to give her something perhaps? I've been thinking maybe ammo.
    What is the significance of Jodi coming back Darryl's house to give him the remote?
    Has Juan managed to track down which salon Jodi used in Salinas?
    Is Juan able to make Jodi get a medical exam which would show if her finger was ever broken or if those are in fact severed tendons? (I'm pretty sure he can do this legally)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I don't see the DEF trying to make him unconscious because she and her team went into great detail about how he was conscious 'wrestling' her.

    If you like to consider theories here's a new video inactment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIvC0jIdzRs
    thank you so much for posting this, I have had so much for posting this, I never have been able to see the foot (I kept looking for a bare foot) that did it. herps to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Well, if Jodi gets acquitted she can channel Johnny Cochran and write a book called, "If the Tootsie Roll Pop Doesn't Fit, You Must Acquit."

    (I know it doesn't make any sense, but it gave me a chuckle! And it goes along with the one you wrote. )
    I would rep you 10 times for that if I could... LMAO!

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    What was the remote control for? Was it part of Travis new camera or something?
    - Beauty is a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Well, if Jodi gets acquitted she can channel Johnny Cochran and write a book called, "If the Tootsie Roll Pop Doesn't Fit, You Must Acquit."

    (I know it doesn't make any sense, but it gave me a chuckle! And it goes along with the one you wrote. )
    Or 1001 Lies To Say Before You Die. ??? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I have been reading one of the transcripts for Dr.Drew and Beth Karas said that Jodi had a "stare out" with Travis family her first day on the stand. Does anyone else remember this and if so can you tell me at what part of the testimony?
    I saw it and commented on it here when it happened, but I don't remember exactly when it was. She and Samantha in particular were having a stare-off.

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