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    Quote Originally Posted by ambz View Post
    I understand what you are saying. My issue is if it was really self defense, wouldn't a person usually call the cops right after?
    I never said it was self defense. I do not know or do any of us know why she killed him. Rage... Something was not right with her and Travis. That relationship should had never went on after she started to act weird, the stalking ...All communication should had been stopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    I am guessing you do not read well. Sorry to break it to you, but a good hard drive cleaner will rewrite over all deleted material, believe me i know what i am talking about. I do it for a living. I would like to know why you seriously doubt that Travis did not have child porn?
    Because he showed a lot of interest in women, and no porn was found at his home. period. if what you say is true, i doubt he knew how to do that. and it seems these forensic experts can recover just about anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    Travis is not on trial, BeanJeano. Even if he was the most inconsiderate and immature boyfriend in the world, he did not deserve what she did to him. She had ample opportunity to walk away from him, like normal people would do if they were being treated poorly. She is no shy violet. She is sitting on that stand, with her little girl voice and her hair styled like a 4th grader, to try and convince everyone that she was so taken advantage of? No one is buying it. She is a viper. Wait, that is an insult to the vipers of the world......at least there is purpose behind their lethal strikes.
    Very well said. I've defended Travis many times. I sick of having to do it. Jodi is on trial here. Not Travis. He is the victim.
    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    if travis had gone on the lamb, he could have wiped his hard drive clean and thrown out his porn, but he was murdered, he didn't have any reason to think that specialists would be going thru his entire computer and browser history or be searching his entire house and going thru every aspect of his life for the last four years looking for any clue that this could be true
    Such a good point!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    if travis had gone on the lamb, he could have wiped his hard drive clean and thrown out his porn, but he was murdered, he didn't have any reason to think that specialists would be going thru his entire computer and browser history or be searching his entire house and going thru every aspect of his life for the last four years looking for any clue that this could be true
    this

    Quote Originally Posted by fredfenderbender View Post
    Because he showed a lot of interest in women, and no porn was found at his home. period. if what you say is true, i doubt he knew how to do that. and it seems these forensic experts can recover just about anything.
    that's what i was trying to say. but just because jodi said it,it mussssssssst be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfly710 View Post
    I'am not anything close to a Jodi supporter, but I'am very confused as to why travis' washed clothes was in the washer and the bedding in the dryer, when the murder happened on the fourth, and the roommate stated in the police report
    that he had done some laundry of his own on the seventh! What? How did the roommate wash his own stuff when the washer and dryer contained clothing, bedding and the camera on the tenth! Hmmm, can anybody add to this, I think I'm missing something?
    yes you are missing that the roommate said he was mistaken; who remembers what day they did laudry five days later? it appears the load in the dryer was washed earlier in the day before the murder; the load in the wash is what she put in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelfly710 View Post
    I'am not anything close to a Jodi supporter, but I'am very confused as to why travis' washed clothes was in the washer and the bedding in the dryer, when the murder happened on the fourth, and the roommate stated in the police report
    that he had done some laundry of his own on the seventh! What? How did the roommate wash his own stuff when the washer and dryer contained clothing, bedding and the camera on the tenth! Hmmm, can anybody add to this, I think I'm missing something?
    if you read the report further - the room mate realized it was not the 7th he did his laundry - it was the weekend b4

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    I never said it was self defense. I do not know or do any of us know why she killed him. Rage... Something was not right with her and Travis. That relationship should had never went on after she started to act weird, the stalking ...All communication should had been stopped.
    I don't know if you've seen the crime scene and autopsy pics, but what she did to Travis is heinous, cruel, and depraved. He died in a way that no person should ever die for any reason. That's the bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambz View Post
    This.

    If it is true what Jodie says, Travis would had erased all of it. Travis could had been scared to even leave it on the computer for too long, he could had removed all evidence. There was once a time before the computers, cell phones... When pedophiles had only pictures and magazines to look at, i am sure it was easy to destroy evidence so their wives... would not find it. I am saying just because they did not find any evidence, it does not mean it is not true. Even if it were true, there is still no excuse for murder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    I never said it was self defense. I do not know or do any of us know why she killed him. Rage... Something was not right with her and Travis. That relationship should had never went on after she started to act weird, the stalking ...All communication should had been stopped.
    If you do not even believe it was self defense, why believe anything else she says? I guess it is kind of like the boy who cried wolf. You get caught in too many lies and nothing else you say has merit. She could tell me she ate a sandwich for lunch and I would think it was a lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    I don't know if you've seen the crime scene and autopsy pics, but what she did to Travis is heinous, cruel, and depraved. He died in a way that no person should ever die for any reason. That's the bottom line.
    Your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    if travis had gone on the lamb, he could have wiped his hard drive clean and thrown out his porn, but he was murdered, he didn't have any reason to think that specialists would be going thru his entire computer and browser history or be searching his entire house and going thru every aspect of his life for the last four years looking for any clue that this could be true
    Wouldn't surprise me if the defense and Jodi say that Travis destroyed and replaced that hard drive after Jodi walked in on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    February 11, 2013

    Dear Diary,

    I have the best news to share today. My artwork is selling like hotcakes on ebay. When I get out of this jail I am, um, going to open up my own gallery. I always knew I would be famous. I am working on a very special project right now. It is called "Used Pieces of Toilet Paper." I am saving my used toilet paper and making a collage. It will probably sell for a million dollars. That is just how popular I am. My cell mate is complaining about the, um, odor. I taught her a lesson. I told everyone that she confided in me that she is a child molester. It was so much fun making up the stories about her. I am such a good story teller. Did I mention I have also decided that I want to be a writer? I got the idea when I was sextifying on the stand. My stories are so detailed and filled with so much, um, passion. I can tell everyone believes every word I say. That is how I know I will be a successful fiction author.

    Speaking of sextifying...today was another hot and, um, steamy day! I almost blushed when Nurmi asked me where I had sex. I told him a few of the places, like in my car, in parking lots, in motels, in houses, and on porches. The question really got me thinking. So, I decided to make a list of all the places I've had sex: my grandparent's bed, The Sizzler, playgrounds, Walmart, garages, truck stop bathrooms, Starbucks, tents, trailers, Applebee's, barns, RVs, churches, post offices, Taco Bell bathrooms, parking garages, car dealerships, golf courses...the list goes on and on. Oh, and jail of course! Duh, how could I forget that?

    But, I didn't get a chance to tell him, um, all the places because the perv wanted all the details about the sex on the porch. That was a sexy story! Okay, so it didn't happen, um, exactly the way I said. Basically, there was no sex on the porch with Travis. I made that all up. But, I made it seem like a true story by throwing in the reference to the Toblerone chocolates. It's the details in the story that convince everyone I am telling the truth. Even when I'm lying. That is why I always have lots of details. I am so going to be on the New York Time's best seller list someday soon.

    Well, I'm going to work on my stories for tomorrow. I don't want to let anyone down. I know they just can't wait to hear more from me!

    Till next time,
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    i look forward to this every day - awesome! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Justice11 again.

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    Hi Harlette!
    In reference to your question about pedo's..I don't know if it was answered yet... I have only worked with youthful sex offenders. And with that being said...the one's I worked with have always shown a preference for age range and sex. Some like really little ones and some go prepubescent and then teens. I have never treated one that has gone for both boys and girls. They usually have had a preference in gender as well. Now with that being said there are opportunistic predators that will take anything that is an easy target or happens across their path. I have testified in juvenile court supporting incarceration with intensive therapy. I missed the trial today but everything I read..SHOUT OUT TO BERM AND JUSTY!! Jodi is a fuckin liar!! Travis in no way indicates any tendencies!!! No porn on the computer or in his house. Hell Im more of a deviant than he is if that's what they are looking for!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    If it is true what Jodie says, Travis would had erased all of it. Travis could had been scared to even leave it on the computer for too long, he could had removed all evidence. There was once a time before the computers, cell phones... When pedophiles had only pictures and magazines to look at, i am sure it was easy to destroy evidence so their wives... would not find it. I am saying just because they did not find any evidence, it does not mean it is not true. Even if it were true, there is still no excuse for murder.
    Anything in the form of "Travis didn't deserve to die like this, BUT . . ." Is bullshit. Whatever that comes after that "BUT" is the reason why you think Travis deserved what he got.

    There isn't a single ioda of physical evidence to corroborate Jodi's pedophile claims. The only thing she ever offered was an electronic copy of an alleged letter from Travis Alexander that she says she received from an anonymous source. The letter could not be authenticated, and was not allowed into evidence in the pre-trial hearings. This was the point when Jodi was going to defend herself in court without a lawyer.

    A lot of us have been following this case for literally years, and have read every court document that's been made public. We knew in advanced what was coming. We knew it was bullshit then, and we know it's bullshit now. You can read the early pages of this thread from 2009. You'll see the rental car, the upside-down license plate, the cell phone turned off, the gps from the rental car ... all stuff that's come out in the prosecution's case. We've watched her story evolve from "wasn't me" to "ninjas" to this fairy tail. All you have to do is go back and read. We're sharp, and we're not fucking wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfenderbender View Post
    Because he showed a lot of interest in women, and no porn was found at his home. period. if what you say is true, i doubt he knew how to do that. and it seems these forensic experts can recover just about anything.
    Once something is deleted on the computer it is written over xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx times. It is gone , they can't find it, because something new has been written over it. People think just because you delete a file etc.. it is gone. It is not until it is rewritten over, but the washers will clean the deleted files, they will be rewritten over, so they are gone forever. Just because a man dates, screws women does not mean anything, when it comes to child porn. Most pedophiles are married men, it is just a perversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    Hi Harlette!
    In reference to your question about pedo's..I don't know if it was answered yet... I have only worked with youthful sex offenders. And with that being said...the one's I worked with have always shown a preference for age range and sex. Some like really little ones and some go prepubescent and then teens. I have never treated one that has gone for both boys and girls. They usually have had a preference in gender as well. Now with that being said there are opportunistic predators that will take anything that is an easy target or happens across their path. I have testified in juvenile court supporting incarceration with intensive therapy. I missed the trial today but everything I read..SHOUT OUT TO BERM AND JUSTY!! Jodi is a fuckin liar!! Travis in no way indicates any tendencies!!! No porn on the computer or in his house. Hell Im more of a deviant than he is if that's what they are looking for!!!
    ty!!!! so her sayng that he was into little girls and little boys so kept having sex w/ her to keep his heinous thoughts a bay doesn't ring true??? plus if he was a preditor, wouldn't he have put himself in a place where he was around kids?? like a youth minister or a game coach, something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    Anything in the form of "Travis didn't deserve to die like this, BUT . . ." Is bullshit. Whatever that comes after that "BUT" is the reason why you think Travis deserved what he got.

    There isn't a single ioda of physical evidence to corroborate Jodi's pedophile claims. The only thing she ever offered was an electronic copy of an alleged letter from Travis Alexander that she says she received from an anonymous source. The letter could not be authenticated, and was not allowed into evidence in the pre-trial hearings. This was the point when Jodi was going to defend herself in court without a lawyer.

    A lot of us have been following this case for literally years, and have read every court document that's been made public. We knew in advanced what was coming. We knew it was bullshit then, and we know it's bullshit now. You can read the early pages of this thread from 2009. You'll see the rental car, the upside-down license plate, the cell phone turned off, the gps from the rental car ... all stuff that's come out in the prosecution's case. We've watched her story evolve from "wasn't me" to "ninjas" to this fairy tail. All you have to do is go back and read. We're sharp, and we're not fucking wrong.

    Just because someone does not agree with you, does not mean Travis deserve what he got. You are out for blood, i am not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeanJeano View Post
    Once something is deleted on the computer it is written over xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx times. It is gone , they can't find it, because something new has been written over it. People think just because you delete a file etc.. it is gone. It is not until it is rewritten over, but the washers will clean the deleted files, they will be rewritten over, so they are gone forever. Just because a man dates, screws women does not mean anything, when it comes to child porn. Most pedophiles are married men, it is just a perversion.
    ok so you are saying if there is anything on his hard drive was dated b4 the time of this incident w/ the kiddie pics then the hard drive couldn't have been erased???

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    Couldn't have said it better myself! Herps for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    Anything in the form of "Travis didn't deserve to die like this, BUT . . ." Is bullshit. Whatever that comes after that "BUT" is the reason why you think Travis deserved what he got.

    There isn't a single ioda of physical evidence to corroborate Jodi's pedophile claims. The only thing she ever offered was an electronic copy of an alleged letter from Travis Alexander that she says she received from an anonymous source. The letter could not be authenticated, and was not allowed into evidence in the pre-trial hearings. This was the point when Jodi was going to defend herself in court without a lawyer.

    A lot of us have been following this case for literally years, and have read every court document that's been made public. We knew in advanced what was coming. We knew it was bullshit then, and we know it's bullshit now. You can read the early pages of this thread from 2009. You'll see the rental car, the upside-down license plate, the cell phone turned off, the gps from the rental car ... all stuff that's come out in the prosecution's case. We've watched her story evolve from "wasn't me" to "ninjas" to this fairy tail. All you have to do is go back and read. We're sharp, and we're not fucking wrong.
    Amen

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    Anything in the form of "Travis didn't deserve to die like this, BUT . . ." Is bullshit. Whatever that comes after that "BUT" is the reason why you think Travis deserved what he got.

    There isn't a single ioda of physical evidence to corroborate Jodi's pedophile claims. The only thing she ever offered was an electronic copy of an alleged letter from Travis Alexander that she says she received from an anonymous source. The letter could not be authenticated, and was not allowed into evidence in the pre-trial hearings. This was the point when Jodi was going to defend herself in court without a lawyer.

    A lot of us have been following this case for literally years, and have read every court document that's been made public. We knew in advanced what was coming. We knew it was bullshit then, and we know it's bullshit now. You can read the early pages of this thread from 2009. You'll see the rental car, the upside-down license plate, the cell phone turned off, the gps from the rental car ... all stuff that's come out in the prosecution's case. We've watched her story evolve from "wasn't me" to "ninjas" to this fairy tail. All you have to do is go back and read. We're sharp, and we're not fucking wrong.
    That is what sucks about accusing someone of something so terrible with no proof. some people will still believe it :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    I don't think I was this pissed with Casey Anthony. Well, maybe I was. I hate them both.
    I don't think I was ever as pissed at Casey as I am with Jodi. Maybe it is because Casey was smart and never took the frikking stand!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    ty!!!! so her sayng that he was into little girls and little boys so kept having sex w/ her to keep his heinous thoughts a bay doesn't ring true??? plus if he was a preditor, wouldn't he have put himself in a place where he was around kids?? like a youth minister or a game coach, something?

    No one said he was a predator. Many men and women look at different types of porn, it does not mean they will do the act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    I don't think I was ever as pissed at Casey as I am with Jodi. Maybe it is because Casey was smart and never took the frikking stand!!!
    Yeah, if Casey had taken the stand it would have been much different. She knew she lied way too much.

    Jodi just thinks she's so cute and demure that she can convince the jury that her new set of lies are the truth. She is a complete narcissist...among other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ambz View Post
    That is what sucks about accusing someone of something so terrible with no proof. some people will still believe it :(
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ambz again.

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