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    Joseph Edward Duncan III and the Groene Family murders

    He was the guy in Iowa that kidnapped Dylan and Shasta Groene and killed several other people in their home.  He eventually killed Dylan but Shasta was found.  I'm glad she doesn't have to face that worthless piece of sh*t in court.
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    Re: Joseph Edward Duncan III pleads guilty...

    [quote author=Southern Mama link=topic=11253.msg638891#msg638891 date=1196802012]
    He was the guy in Iowa that kidnapped Dylan and Shasta Groene and killed several other people in their home.  He eventually killed Dylan but Shasta was found.  I'm glad she doesn't have to face that worthless piece of sh*t in court.
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    umm...Iowa?

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    Re: Joseph Edward Duncan III pleads guilty...

    Oops.  Sorry...I was typing in a hurry and had three kids wanting my attention at the same time.

    Thanks for pointing it out.  It was Idaho. Obviously, I didn't proof-read.  :oops:
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    Re: Joseph Edward Duncan III pleads guilty...

    [quote author=Southern Mama link=topic=11253.msg639146#msg639146 date=1196815353]
    Oops.  Sorry...I was typing in a hurry and had three kids wanting my attention at the same time.

    Thanks for pointing it out.  It was Idaho. Obviously, I didn't proof-read.  :oops:
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    :lol: I saw a shirt the other day making fun of the whole Iowa/Idaho/Ohio thing. A lot of people actually confuse them and I don't get it, but maybe that's cause I live in one of 'em.
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    Re: Joseph Edward Duncan III pleads guilty...

    [quote author=deeply shaded link=topic=11253.msg639293#msg639293 date=1196823091]
    :lol: I saw a shirt the other day making fun of the whole Iowa/Idaho/Ohio thing. A lot of people actually confuse them and I don't get it, but maybe that's cause I live in one of 'em.
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    I confuse Iowa and Ohio sometimes. Though I usually only talk about them when I am making fun of forum members.
    I try to pay attention then. :lol:

    I mean, I really don't see a BIG way to tall em apart. corn and potatoes?
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    Re: Joseph Edward Duncan III pleads guilty...

    :lol:I'm from Idaho and I see and hear this allll the time!
    I get used to it!

    This story is another that broke my heart, especially since it was so close to home.  That poor little girl will never be able to lead a normal life...though I wish her the best.  Shes a little survivor...

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    Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    http://www.kivitv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8882262

    Jurors watched in horror as three videos showing Joseph Duncan abusing nine-year-old Dylan Groene were played in court Thursday. Some cried, others buried their faces in their hands, the men stared Duncan down.

    The video shows Duncan forcing the little boy to perform sex acts and nearly beating him to death. Duncan hung Dylan from a wooden beam in a remote Montana cabin. Dylan passed out and when he came to, is heard saying on the tape, "It felt like I was in heaven, but I'm not."

    Duncan goes on a tirade about God, saying, "God, this boy does not deserve to die...what is going on here? I'm sick of Your games."

    Dylan's father Steve Groene did not stay in the courtroom for the video and was adamantly against the judge allowing it to be shown in open court. Groene filed an emergency motion for reconsideration of the judge's decision. The judge denied the motion. Groene gestured to members of the public to get out of the courtroom before the video was shown, but they did not comply. Outside, he didn't hestitate to show his disgust with the people who chose to watch the video, calling it child pornography.

    "He threatened to make a citizen's arrest of anyone who watched the video," Spokesman Review Bureau Chief Betsy Russell said. "He was very upset about the idea this attack on his son was being seen by members of the public."

    More disturbing evidence was submitted from the cabin where Duncan attacked and abused Dylan. The beam and metal noose where rolled into the courtroom, along with floorboards from the cabin that were stained with semen.

    Duncan briefly took the stand but apparently didn't understand he needed to ask himself questions, since he's acting as his own lawyer. He briefly remarked, "I have no statement prepared. I was intending to sit and answer any questions the government may have."

    But prosecutors could not cross-examine Duncan, since he gave no testimony.

    "On cross-examination, the government cannot go beyond what's been given on direct testimony and on direct testimony, Duncan didn't say a word so there was nothing they could ask him even if they wanted to," Russell said. "Part of that may be his unfamiliarity with court procedures but it was odd, it was puzzling."

    Both sides rested Thursday afternoon and jurors were read their instructions. After closing statements, they'll be required to decide if Duncan is eligible for the death penalty.  Closing statements are set to begin Friday.





    I am so torn on this one  :| I feel so much for the father and I wonder what kind of effect this is going to have on the jury members who had to sit through this...I don't think I would ever be able to get those images out of my head. At the same time, I'm anti death penalty but I'm pretty sure I would vote to execute him if I saw something like that, so from the prosecutions standpoint it makes a lot of sense.

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Just in case anyone forgets this story (like I did)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_E._Duncan_III

    According to Shasta Groene's police interview, Duncan killed her mother, older brother and her mother's fiance and then took her and her brother away in a 2000 Jeep Cherokee. Almost seven weeks after their abduction, a camera in a convenience store, approximately 40 miles outside of Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, recorded Shasta wandering the aisles while Duncan read a newspaper. Later on, in the early morning hours of July 2, 2005, Shasta was found in Duncan's custody. The two had entered a Denny's restaurant in Coeur d'Alene. A waitress recognized Shasta from media reports, as well as posters that had been posted around town and in the restaurant. The waitress, Amber Deahn, worked with her manager to delay the suspect and contact local police. Deahn stalled the order until the police arrived and made a positive ID on the stolen rental car, which also displayed stolen Missouri state license plates. Police later entered the restaurant and arrested Duncan. When one of the officers asked Shasta where her brother was, she replied "My brother is in heaven." The girl was then removed to a local hospital for observation and care.

    Shasta told investigators her mother called her into the living room, from her bedroom where she had been sleeping, and she saw Duncan wearing black gloves and holding a gun. Her captor tied her mother's hands with nylon zip ties, and did the same to her mother's fiance and her brother Slade. Dylan and Shasta were removed from the house and placed inside the stolen rental car. While she waited with her brother, she heard her mother's fiance scream out and then saw her injured older brother staggering away from the entrance to the home. Duncan then bludgeoned the three to death; neither Shasta nor Dylan witnessed the murders. Both Shasta and Dylan were removed to other locations, where they were repeatedly raped and molested for six weeks. She said that they drove long distances and stayed in various campgrounds, while Duncan bragged of having beaten her family members to death with a hammer.

    Dylan's remains were found in a remote, woodland area in Montana days after Shasta was rescued. Shasta is now in the custody of her father.

    Duncan appeared in court on July 6, 2005, during his arraignment on two counts of first-degree kidnapping. His trial was set to begin on January 17, 2006, but was delayed until April 4, after the district judge granted a request to the defense for more time to prepare for the trial, and then again to October 26, after 1st District Judge Fred Gibler stated that "No one wants to try this case twice, including me", thus granting Duncan's attorneys the six month extension. On October 16, 2006, Duncan plead guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and three counts of kidnapping for the deaths of Brenda Groene, Slade Groene and Mark McKenzie. In an agreement reached with prosecutors, Duncan, 43, will receive three consecutive life sentences on the kidnapping charges, which stem from the manner in which Duncan detained the victims before their deaths. His sentencing on the murder charges has been delayed until the completion of his case in federal court for crimes that allegedly occurred against Shasta and Dylan Groene after they were kidnapped from the family's home. [2]

    In a January 23, 2007 interview, Duncan admitted to killing three other children in the California area. Detectives are checking into this new information.
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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Ugh. This story is heartbreaking. I hope he rots.
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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    I'm sure the sick fucker got off on the tape being shown.
    Fuck due process fry his evil fucking ass now.

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    I don't think they needed to show the video, I'd want him dead just hearing about it.

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

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    I don't think they needed to show the video, I'd want him dead just hearing about it.
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    Yep.

    I'm not surprised the dad had to leave, horrific. I don't think they needed to show it either.
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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

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    I'm sure the sick fucker got off on the tape being shown.
    Fuck due process fry his evil fucking ass now.
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    [quote author=HyperU2 link=topic=15880.msg980937#msg980937 date=1219561874]
    I don't think they needed to show the video, I'd want him dead just hearing about it.
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    It makes me physically ill that poor Shasta had to deal with this DEPRAVED "it". 

    I hope his execution goes horribly, horribly AWRY and that he screams like a girl.     
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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Yup, I don't even have to read the descriptions of this to know that the bastard deserves the death penalty.  The cruelty that he showed to the mother, her fiance and other brother in front of the two children was more than enough.  I think it was cruel to show the video to the jury, really, how much evidence do we need to prove that someone is a sick bastard and should be executed?  I'm sure Shasta's life will be haunted forever.

    RIP Dylan, Slade, Brenda and Mark

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Oh wow...reading the story I thought it was just the jurors who saw it but apparently it was the entire courtroom, including spectators and reporters  :-o That is seriously fucked up. How could they allow that to happen??

    I can somewhat understand why the jury had to see it but was there any reason they couldn't clear the courtroom? And the fact that the spectators stayed after the father begged them to leave...ugh. Like he hasn't suffered through enough? Who CHOOSES to watch something like that anyways? 

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Two words: Firing squad.  Asshole.
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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/media/slides/?k=duncanevidence

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    They did not have to show the tape the evidence was enough for me to want to fry this guy .I seriously hope this man rots .There is nothing we could do to hi that I would think is enough punishent for what he did to these kids .

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    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/media/slides/?k=duncanevidence
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    Wow those letters at the end are fucking GUT-WRENCHING.
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    Wow those letters at the end are fucking GUT-WRENCHING.
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    ugh dude, those letters. i was hoping to god that link wasn't the video.

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    [quote author=Hotsauce McGilacuty link=topic=15880.msg983837#msg983837 date=1219768901]
    ugh dude, those letters. i was hoping to god that link wasn't the video.
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    Yeah not a chance in hell.

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    [quote author=somewhere only we know link=topic=15880.msg983612#msg983612 date=1219757193]
    Wow those letters at the end are fucking GUT-WRENCHING.
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    What a fucking bastard for making them write those letters knowing he was going to kill the little boy!

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    Ok I have tought about this guy all day and have decided I do not want him to get a needle or the chair .No its to easy not enough pain .I say we do to him like they did to the guy in fast and furious 2 with the rat .You know where they heat the rat up and he tries to eat his way out through the guy .Yeah to me this sounds better slow,painful and sick .I think he would deserve every minute of it too .I am sorry but a needle or chair just does not sound harsh enough for this sicko in my mind .Do not get me wrong he deserves to die ,but not quick .

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    Re: Horrific Abuse Video Shown in Duncan Sentencing

    [quote author=Hotsauce McGilacuty link=topic=15880.msg983837#msg983837 date=1219768901]
    ugh dude, those letters. i was hoping to god that link wasn't the video.
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    :( me also.. man... ugh.. I dont understand...
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