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    [quote author=Peavey link=topic=10355.msg570607#msg570607 date=1192364207]
    And far more credible of a source than wikipedia.  Link it?
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    Woman found guilty of killing pregnant mother
    Victim’s fetus was cut from her body; defense said suspect was delusional

    Anonymous / AP Lisa Montgomery was found guilty of cutting a pregnant woman's baby from her womb and then passing off the child as her own.

    Updated: 5:32 p.m. MT Oct 22, 2007
    KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A woman whose attorneys had argued that she was suffering from delusions when she killed an expectant mother, cut the baby from her womb and took the infant home was convicted Monday.

    Jurors convicted Lisa Montgomery, 39, of kidnapping resulting in death in the 2004 attack on 23-year-old Bobbie Jo Stinnett in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

    The jury deliberated for about four hours before rejecting Montgomery’s insanity defense. The jury could have acquitted her outright or found her not guilty by reason of insanity. Prosecutors said they plan to seek the death penalty.

    After the verdict was read, Montgomery dried her eyes and one of her attorneys patted her back to console her.

    Stinnett’s husband, Zeb, and Montgomery’s husband, Kevin, showed no emotion.

    Defense attorneys claimed Montgomery was suffering from pseudocyesis, which causes a woman to falsely believe she is pregnant and exhibit outward signs of pregnancy.

    Defense argued she was abused as a child
    They portrayed her as a victim of severe mental illness whose delusion of being pregnant was being threatened, causing her to enter a dreamlike state when the killing took place.

    They also argued that she had post-traumatic stress disorder brought on by mental, physical and sexual abuse in her childhood.

    But during closing arguments, federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark called the pseudocyesis claim “voodoo science.”

    She said Montgomery was driven by fear because she believed her ex-husband, Carl Boman, would expose that she was lying about being pregnant and use it against her as he sought custody of two of the couple’s four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.

    “It’s not pseudocyesis or post-traumatic stress disorder,” Ketchmark said. “And even if you wrap them up and put delusions around them, it’s not insanity.”

    Ketchmark said Montgomery plotted the slaying and abduction and took pains to cover up that planning after she was caught.

    “She knows she’s not pregnant,” the prosecutor said. “It’s no delusion. It’s deceit and manipulation.”

    Falsely claimed multiple pregnancies
    Montgomery had undergone a tubal ligation in 1990 after the birth of her fourth child. But soon after, she began falsely reporting a series of pregnancies. In 2004, she claimed to be due in mid-December.

    Boman had become suspicious of her latest pregnancy claim and threatened to use it against her as he sought custody of two of the couple’s four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.


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    Montgomery’s mother and sister also had been telling Montgomery’s husband and his parents that it was impossible for her to carry a child.

    As Montgomery’s purported Dec. 13, 2004, due date approached, she began conducting searches on the Internet about Stinnett and researching different aspects of child birth. The defense portrayed those efforts as evidence that she believed she was pregnant. The prosecution called them proof of premeditation.

    Prosecutors said Montgomery used a rope to choke Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant. But Stinnett was conscious and trying to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb, prosecutors said.

    Montgomery was arrested the day after the killing after spending the morning showing off the infant as her own in her hometown of Melvern, Kan.

    Montgomery’s attorneys and a spokesman for Stinnett’s family declined to comment. Stinnett’s baby is living with her family.

    “The only good thing that comes from this tragedy is that little Victoria is a healthy baby and is reunited with her family,” U.S. Attorney John F. Wood said.

    After initially denying the crime, Montgomery told investigators she had taken a knife, rope and umbilical cord clamp with her to Stinnett’s home. Montgomery said she had thought she was leaving the home when “something out of character” happened and “then this took place.”

    Attorneys are to start arguing Wednesday whether Montgomery deserves the death penalty.
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    But Stinnett was conscious and trying to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb, prosecutors said.

    UGH! completely unthinkable! it gets said so many times, but this sick bitch deserves at least of 1000 yrs+ of sheer torture.  I couldnt imagine that the last thing i experience is a fucking nut cutting open my belly for my baby.  Death or Jail is too good for this woman. ugh.

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    Jurors Weep in Stolen Baby Case
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    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Several jurors wept as they listened to a woman make a frantic 911 call after finding her pregnant daughter dead and the fetus no longer in her womb.

    "It's like she exploded or something," a sobbing Becky Harper told the dispatcher in a recording played Wednesday during the penalty phase of Lisa Montgomery's trial.

    On Thursday, jurors were expected to begin deliberations on whether Montgomery deserves to die or spend the rest of her life in prison for the gruesome slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, who was killed Dec. 16, 2004, in the pregnant woman's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

    Federal prosecutors played the 911 tape to support their contention that Montgomery should be put to death. Her attorneys argue that she should get life in prison without parole — the only other punishment the jury can choose — because physical and sexual abuse she suffered as a child left her mentally ill.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pregnant_Woman_Slain.html

    How could she not get anything but the Death Penalty?
    To think of the poor mother to go in and find her daughter cut open.  How horrible.

    RIP Bobbie Joe, sorry you had to suffer

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    [quote author=Onthedarkside link=topic=10355.msg583575#msg583575 date=1193316699]
    Jurors Weep in Stolen Baby Case
    Associated Press Writer

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Several jurors wept as they listened to a woman make a frantic 911 call after finding her pregnant daughter dead and the fetus no longer in her womb.

    "It's like she exploded or something," a sobbing Becky Harper told the dispatcher in a recording played Wednesday during the penalty phase of Lisa Montgomery's trial.

    On Thursday, jurors were expected to begin deliberations on whether Montgomery deserves to die or spend the rest of her life in prison for the gruesome slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, who was killed Dec. 16, 2004, in the pregnant woman's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

    Federal prosecutors played the 911 tape to support their contention that Montgomery should be put to death. Her attorneys argue that she should get life in prison without parole — the only other punishment the jury can choose — because physical and sexual abuse she suffered as a child left her mentally ill.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pregnant_Woman_Slain.html

    How could she not get anything but the Death Penalty?
    To think of the poor mother to go in and find her daughter cut open.  How horrible.

    RIP Bobbie Joe, sorry you had to suffer
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    This IS sad, and very scary. I just moved to Missouri. I don't think I will live here very long.

    RIP Bobbie Joe

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    oh GOD! i didnt even think of what it must have been like to discover that scene! UGH.. SO MANY victims in this crime.  WHat the Fuck is wrong with this sick bitch??
    she should should spend 23 hours a day tied by her neck to a rope that is just 2 inches off the ground in the jail house bathroom - everytime anyone goes in there - they could kick, piss or shit on her - and she could ALMOST most her head but not so much.  The one hour that she is off the rope is only to treat her or feed her so she could be healthy and live to be at least 100 yrs old.
    someone put me in that jury, ill make it so she WANTS to die.

    ON a related subject... anyone see E!'s "The Soup", they had a clip of Nancy Grace:
    When a caller called in to Nancy Grace and said "Hi Nancy, I wanted to say congradulations on being pregnant and I just want to add that this wont happen again... to you..ever"
    ahahahaha Nancy Grace almost tried to ignore that but she couldnt - it was amusing.

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    hooo-fucking-ray.  i would love to be the one that kills her sorry ass.  you know, like cutting that cold heart out of her chest while she is conscious.

    Jury: Woman should die for fatal fetus-snatchingStory Highlights
    NEW: Judge must abide by jury's decision, prosecutor says

    Lisa Montgomery, 39, convicted of kidnapping resulting in death of woman

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett died after the attack; Montgomery took Stinnett's baby

    Prosecutors: Mother still conscious when Montgomery cut baby from womb

    KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- A jury on Friday decided that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.


    Lisa Montgomery wiped tears from her eyes as a jury said she should get the death penalty.

    Jurors deliberated for more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery.

    Prosecutors say a judge will sentence Montgomery, but is obligated to abide by the jury's recommendation.

    Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on December 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kansas, where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

    Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended.

    Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence -- including Internet searches on performing Caesareans -- shows the crime was premeditated.

    Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

    Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

    "I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/26/pregnant.slaying.ap/index.html

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    Re: Baby-cut-from-womb suspect's husband said he did not know his wife faked 3 preg

    [quote author=ZoMyGoddess! link=topic=10355.msg584447#msg584447 date=1193356508]
    oh GOD! i didnt even think of what it must have been like to discover that scene! UGH.. SO MANY victims in this crime.  WHat the Fuck is wrong with this sick bitch??
    she should should spend 23 hours a day tied by her neck to a rope that is just 2 inches off the ground in the jail house bathroom - everytime anyone goes in there - they could kick, piss or shit on her - and she could ALMOST most her head but not so much.  The one hour that she is off the rope is only to treat her or feed her so she could be healthy and live to be at least 100 yrs old.
    someone put me in that jury, ill make it so she WANTS to die.

    ON a related subject... anyone see E!'s "The Soup", they had a clip of Nancy Grace:
    When a caller called in to Nancy Grace and said "Hi Nancy, I wanted to say congradulations on being pregnant and I just want to add that this wont happen again... to you..ever"
    ahahahaha Nancy Grace almost tried to ignore that but she couldnt - it was amusing.
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    Nancy Grace is possibly the most annoying person to ever hit the airwaves!!!!!!!!!  :x

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    hooo-fucking-ray.  i would love to be the one that kills her sorry ass.  you know, like cutting that cold heart out of her chest while she is conscious.

    Jury: Woman should die for fatal fetus-snatchingStory Highlights
    NEW: Judge must abide by jury's decision, prosecutor says

    Lisa Montgomery, 39, convicted of kidnapping resulting in death of woman

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett died after the attack; Montgomery took Stinnett's baby

    Prosecutors: Mother still conscious when Montgomery cut baby from womb

    KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- A jury on Friday decided that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.


    Lisa Montgomery wiped tears from her eyes as a jury said she should get the death penalty.

    Jurors deliberated for more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery.

    Prosecutors say a judge will sentence Montgomery, but is obligated to abide by the jury's recommendation.

    Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on December 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kansas, where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

    Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended.

    Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence -- including Internet searches on performing Caesareans -- shows the crime was premeditated.

    Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

    Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

    "I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/26/pregnant.slaying.ap/index.html

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    *happy dance*

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    [quote author=MAVEN link=topic=10355.msg585947#msg585947 date=1193424855]
    hooo-fucking-ray.  i would love to be the one that kills her sorry ass.  you know, like cutting that cold heart out of her chest while she is conscious.

    Jury: Woman should die for fatal fetus-snatchingStory Highlights
    NEW: Judge must abide by jury's decision, prosecutor says

    Lisa Montgomery, 39, convicted of kidnapping resulting in death of woman

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett died after the attack; Montgomery took Stinnett's baby

    Prosecutors: Mother still conscious when Montgomery cut baby from womb

    KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- A jury on Friday decided that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.


    Lisa Montgomery wiped tears from her eyes as a jury said she should get the death penalty.

    Jurors deliberated for more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery.

    Prosecutors say a judge will sentence Montgomery, but is obligated to abide by the jury's recommendation.

    Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on December 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kansas, where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

    Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended.

    Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence -- including Internet searches on performing Caesareans -- shows the crime was premeditated.

    Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

    Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

    "I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/26/pregnant.slaying.ap/index.html

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    I'm never sure how I feel about the death penalty.  In this case I think it is justified though.  I can't imagine how that poor woman must have felt whilst being attacked. 

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    Woman gets death in mother-to-be murder
    Judge hands down sentence in case where baby was cut from womb
    The Associated Press
    updated 10:07 a.m. MT, Fri., April. 4, 2008
    KANSAS CITY, Missouri - A Missouri woman has been sentenced to death for killing a mother-to-be and cutting the baby from her womb.

    Judge Gary Fenner handed down the sentence after a jury recommended the death penalty for Lisa Montgomery in the slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett.

    The 39-year-old from Melvern was convicted in October of kidnapping resulting in death in the Dec. 16, 2004, killing of Stinnett. Montgomery was arrested at her farmhouse a day after showing off Stinnett's baby as her own.


    © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23956144/

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    Re: Baby-cut-from-womb suspect's husband said he did not know his wife faked 3 p

    [quote author=puzzld link=topic=10355.msg796201#msg796201 date=1207331667]
    Woman gets death in mother-to-be murder
    Judge hands down sentence in case where baby was cut from womb
    The Associated Press
    updated 10:07 a.m. MT, Fri., April. 4, 2008
    KANSAS CITY, Missouri - A Missouri woman has been sentenced to death for killing a mother-to-be and cutting the baby from her womb.

    Judge Gary Fenner handed down the sentence after a jury recommended the death penalty for Lisa Montgomery in the slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett.

    The 39-year-old from Melvern was convicted in October of kidnapping resulting in death in the Dec. 16, 2004, killing of Stinnett. Montgomery was arrested at her farmhouse a day after showing off Stinnett's baby as her own.


    © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23956144/


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    oops!!!  :lol:

    The crime rate in that town is absolutely unbelievable!!! This story is just as bad as the Ken McElroy case from Skidmore.
    I will NEVER set foot in that state again.

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    Hahah!

    God, what a horrible story. Thank goodness the baby is alive and well, at least. :(

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    The federal government, continuing its string of executions this year, has set the dates for two more, including the first woman in more than six decades.

    Lisa Montgomery is expected to receive lethal injection on December 8, the Justice Department says. In 2004, she was convicted of strangling a Missouri woman who was eight-months pregnant, then cut out and kidnapped the baby.

    The last woman executed by the US government was Bonnie Brown Heady on Dec. 18, 1953, according to US Bureau of Prisons records, for kidnapping and murder.
    Also in 1953, Ethel Rosenberg was famously executed for espionage, along with her husband, Julius.

    Montgomery's execution will be the Justice Department's eighth this year after a 17-hear hiatus.
    Before this year, the federal government had not executed anyone since 2003, and just four people since the 1960, Bureau of Prisons records show.
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    I had forgotten about this case, but did some research on it after seeing that her execution had been set. It's hard for me to believe that the baby would be almost 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I had forgotten about this case, but did some research on it after seeing that her execution had been set. It's hard for me to believe that the baby would be almost 16.
    The baby is alive! I wonder how she's doing now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Country Mac View Post
    The baby is alive! I wonder how she's doing now too.
    Right, I just meant that she would almost be 16 at this time. Her birthday is in December...and what a birthday.

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    I was wondering why someone bumped a 12 year old thread.


    Well, Lisa, I hope it was worth it.

    No one cares if you found Jesus. No one cares that you're "sorry."

    No one gives a fuck for any remorse you may show.

    You killed a mom to be, and damn near took the baby's life too.


    I hope you fucking suffer until your execution, and that your afterlife is a never ending series of the kind of evil you visited on Bobbie Jo.


    You deserve nothing less.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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