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    [quote author=Peavey link=topic=10355.msg570607#msg570607 date=1192364207]
    And far more credible of a source than wikipedia.  Link it?
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    Woman found guilty of killing pregnant mother
    Victim’s fetus was cut from her body; defense said suspect was delusional

    Anonymous / AP Lisa Montgomery was found guilty of cutting a pregnant woman's baby from her womb and then passing off the child as her own.

    Updated: 5:32 p.m. MT Oct 22, 2007
    KANSAS CITY, Mo. - A woman whose attorneys had argued that she was suffering from delusions when she killed an expectant mother, cut the baby from her womb and took the infant home was convicted Monday.

    Jurors convicted Lisa Montgomery, 39, of kidnapping resulting in death in the 2004 attack on 23-year-old Bobbie Jo Stinnett in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

    The jury deliberated for about four hours before rejecting Montgomery’s insanity defense. The jury could have acquitted her outright or found her not guilty by reason of insanity. Prosecutors said they plan to seek the death penalty.

    After the verdict was read, Montgomery dried her eyes and one of her attorneys patted her back to console her.

    Stinnett’s husband, Zeb, and Montgomery’s husband, Kevin, showed no emotion.

    Defense attorneys claimed Montgomery was suffering from pseudocyesis, which causes a woman to falsely believe she is pregnant and exhibit outward signs of pregnancy.

    Defense argued she was abused as a child
    They portrayed her as a victim of severe mental illness whose delusion of being pregnant was being threatened, causing her to enter a dreamlike state when the killing took place.

    They also argued that she had post-traumatic stress disorder brought on by mental, physical and sexual abuse in her childhood.

    But during closing arguments, federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark called the pseudocyesis claim “voodoo science.”

    She said Montgomery was driven by fear because she believed her ex-husband, Carl Boman, would expose that she was lying about being pregnant and use it against her as he sought custody of two of the couple’s four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.

    “It’s not pseudocyesis or post-traumatic stress disorder,” Ketchmark said. “And even if you wrap them up and put delusions around them, it’s not insanity.”

    Ketchmark said Montgomery plotted the slaying and abduction and took pains to cover up that planning after she was caught.

    “She knows she’s not pregnant,” the prosecutor said. “It’s no delusion. It’s deceit and manipulation.”

    Falsely claimed multiple pregnancies
    Montgomery had undergone a tubal ligation in 1990 after the birth of her fourth child. But soon after, she began falsely reporting a series of pregnancies. In 2004, she claimed to be due in mid-December.

    Boman had become suspicious of her latest pregnancy claim and threatened to use it against her as he sought custody of two of the couple’s four children. A custody hearing had been set for January 2005.


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    Montgomery’s mother and sister also had been telling Montgomery’s husband and his parents that it was impossible for her to carry a child.

    As Montgomery’s purported Dec. 13, 2004, due date approached, she began conducting searches on the Internet about Stinnett and researching different aspects of child birth. The defense portrayed those efforts as evidence that she believed she was pregnant. The prosecution called them proof of premeditation.

    Prosecutors said Montgomery used a rope to choke Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant. But Stinnett was conscious and trying to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb, prosecutors said.

    Montgomery was arrested the day after the killing after spending the morning showing off the infant as her own in her hometown of Melvern, Kan.

    Montgomery’s attorneys and a spokesman for Stinnett’s family declined to comment. Stinnett’s baby is living with her family.

    “The only good thing that comes from this tragedy is that little Victoria is a healthy baby and is reunited with her family,” U.S. Attorney John F. Wood said.

    After initially denying the crime, Montgomery told investigators she had taken a knife, rope and umbilical cord clamp with her to Stinnett’s home. Montgomery said she had thought she was leaving the home when “something out of character” happened and “then this took place.”

    Attorneys are to start arguing Wednesday whether Montgomery deserves the death penalty.
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    But Stinnett was conscious and trying to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb, prosecutors said.

    UGH! completely unthinkable! it gets said so many times, but this sick bitch deserves at least of 1000 yrs+ of sheer torture.  I couldnt imagine that the last thing i experience is a fucking nut cutting open my belly for my baby.  Death or Jail is too good for this woman. ugh.

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    Jurors Weep in Stolen Baby Case
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    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Several jurors wept as they listened to a woman make a frantic 911 call after finding her pregnant daughter dead and the fetus no longer in her womb.

    "It's like she exploded or something," a sobbing Becky Harper told the dispatcher in a recording played Wednesday during the penalty phase of Lisa Montgomery's trial.

    On Thursday, jurors were expected to begin deliberations on whether Montgomery deserves to die or spend the rest of her life in prison for the gruesome slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, who was killed Dec. 16, 2004, in the pregnant woman's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

    Federal prosecutors played the 911 tape to support their contention that Montgomery should be put to death. Her attorneys argue that she should get life in prison without parole — the only other punishment the jury can choose — because physical and sexual abuse she suffered as a child left her mentally ill.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pregnant_Woman_Slain.html

    How could she not get anything but the Death Penalty?
    To think of the poor mother to go in and find her daughter cut open.  How horrible.

    RIP Bobbie Joe, sorry you had to suffer

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    [quote author=Onthedarkside link=topic=10355.msg583575#msg583575 date=1193316699]
    Jurors Weep in Stolen Baby Case
    Associated Press Writer

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Several jurors wept as they listened to a woman make a frantic 911 call after finding her pregnant daughter dead and the fetus no longer in her womb.

    "It's like she exploded or something," a sobbing Becky Harper told the dispatcher in a recording played Wednesday during the penalty phase of Lisa Montgomery's trial.

    On Thursday, jurors were expected to begin deliberations on whether Montgomery deserves to die or spend the rest of her life in prison for the gruesome slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett, who was killed Dec. 16, 2004, in the pregnant woman's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore.

    Federal prosecutors played the 911 tape to support their contention that Montgomery should be put to death. Her attorneys argue that she should get life in prison without parole — the only other punishment the jury can choose — because physical and sexual abuse she suffered as a child left her mentally ill.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/content/shared-gen/ap/National/Pregnant_Woman_Slain.html

    How could she not get anything but the Death Penalty?
    To think of the poor mother to go in and find her daughter cut open.  How horrible.

    RIP Bobbie Joe, sorry you had to suffer
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    This IS sad, and very scary. I just moved to Missouri. I don't think I will live here very long.

    RIP Bobbie Joe

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    oh GOD! i didnt even think of what it must have been like to discover that scene! UGH.. SO MANY victims in this crime.  WHat the Fuck is wrong with this sick bitch??
    she should should spend 23 hours a day tied by her neck to a rope that is just 2 inches off the ground in the jail house bathroom - everytime anyone goes in there - they could kick, piss or shit on her - and she could ALMOST most her head but not so much.  The one hour that she is off the rope is only to treat her or feed her so she could be healthy and live to be at least 100 yrs old.
    someone put me in that jury, ill make it so she WANTS to die.

    ON a related subject... anyone see E!'s "The Soup", they had a clip of Nancy Grace:
    When a caller called in to Nancy Grace and said "Hi Nancy, I wanted to say congradulations on being pregnant and I just want to add that this wont happen again... to you..ever"
    ahahahaha Nancy Grace almost tried to ignore that but she couldnt - it was amusing.

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    hooo-fucking-ray.  i would love to be the one that kills her sorry ass.  you know, like cutting that cold heart out of her chest while she is conscious.

    Jury: Woman should die for fatal fetus-snatchingStory Highlights
    NEW: Judge must abide by jury's decision, prosecutor says

    Lisa Montgomery, 39, convicted of kidnapping resulting in death of woman

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett died after the attack; Montgomery took Stinnett's baby

    Prosecutors: Mother still conscious when Montgomery cut baby from womb

    KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- A jury on Friday decided that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.


    Lisa Montgomery wiped tears from her eyes as a jury said she should get the death penalty.

    Jurors deliberated for more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery.

    Prosecutors say a judge will sentence Montgomery, but is obligated to abide by the jury's recommendation.

    Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on December 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kansas, where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

    Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended.

    Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence -- including Internet searches on performing Caesareans -- shows the crime was premeditated.

    Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

    Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

    "I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/26/pregnant.slaying.ap/index.html

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    Re: Baby-cut-from-womb suspect's husband said he did not know his wife faked 3 preg

    [quote author=ZoMyGoddess! link=topic=10355.msg584447#msg584447 date=1193356508]
    oh GOD! i didnt even think of what it must have been like to discover that scene! UGH.. SO MANY victims in this crime.  WHat the Fuck is wrong with this sick bitch??
    she should should spend 23 hours a day tied by her neck to a rope that is just 2 inches off the ground in the jail house bathroom - everytime anyone goes in there - they could kick, piss or shit on her - and she could ALMOST most her head but not so much.  The one hour that she is off the rope is only to treat her or feed her so she could be healthy and live to be at least 100 yrs old.
    someone put me in that jury, ill make it so she WANTS to die.

    ON a related subject... anyone see E!'s "The Soup", they had a clip of Nancy Grace:
    When a caller called in to Nancy Grace and said "Hi Nancy, I wanted to say congradulations on being pregnant and I just want to add that this wont happen again... to you..ever"
    ahahahaha Nancy Grace almost tried to ignore that but she couldnt - it was amusing.
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    Nancy Grace is possibly the most annoying person to ever hit the airwaves!!!!!!!!!  :x

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    hooo-fucking-ray.  i would love to be the one that kills her sorry ass.  you know, like cutting that cold heart out of her chest while she is conscious.

    Jury: Woman should die for fatal fetus-snatchingStory Highlights
    NEW: Judge must abide by jury's decision, prosecutor says

    Lisa Montgomery, 39, convicted of kidnapping resulting in death of woman

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett died after the attack; Montgomery took Stinnett's baby

    Prosecutors: Mother still conscious when Montgomery cut baby from womb

    KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- A jury on Friday decided that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.


    Lisa Montgomery wiped tears from her eyes as a jury said she should get the death penalty.

    Jurors deliberated for more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery.

    Prosecutors say a judge will sentence Montgomery, but is obligated to abide by the jury's recommendation.

    Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on December 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kansas, where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

    Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended.

    Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence -- including Internet searches on performing Caesareans -- shows the crime was premeditated.

    Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

    Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

    "I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/26/pregnant.slaying.ap/index.html

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    *happy dance*

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    [quote author=MAVEN link=topic=10355.msg585947#msg585947 date=1193424855]
    hooo-fucking-ray.  i would love to be the one that kills her sorry ass.  you know, like cutting that cold heart out of her chest while she is conscious.

    Jury: Woman should die for fatal fetus-snatchingStory Highlights
    NEW: Judge must abide by jury's decision, prosecutor says

    Lisa Montgomery, 39, convicted of kidnapping resulting in death of woman

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett died after the attack; Montgomery took Stinnett's baby

    Prosecutors: Mother still conscious when Montgomery cut baby from womb

    KANSAS CITY, Missouri (AP) -- A jury on Friday decided that a woman convicted of killing an expectant mother and cutting her baby from her womb should receive the death penalty.


    Lisa Montgomery wiped tears from her eyes as a jury said she should get the death penalty.

    Jurors deliberated for more than five hours before recommending the sentence for Lisa Montgomery.

    Prosecutors say a judge will sentence Montgomery, but is obligated to abide by the jury's recommendation.

    Montgomery, 39, was convicted Monday of kidnapping and killing Bobbie Jo Stinnett on December 16, 2004, in the victim's home in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore. She was arrested the next day in Melvern, Kansas, where she was showing off the newborn as her own.

    Montgomery wiped her eyes with a tissue as the jury announced its sentencing decision. Her attorney, Fred Duchardt, had his hand on her shoulder.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett's killing and mutilation is the kind of crime for which capital punishment is intended.

    Showing jurors photos of the bloody crime scene, the prosecution told jurors Thursday that Montgomery deserves to die because of the heinousness of her crime, and because computer evidence -- including Internet searches on performing Caesareans -- shows the crime was premeditated.

    Federal prosecutor Roseann Ketchmark said Montgomery had violated Stinnett in the "most wicked way possible," then failed to seek medical attention for the infant, who was four weeks shy of her due date.

    Defense attorney Fred Duchardt, who claims sexual abuse during Montgomery's childhood led to mental illness, asked the jury to spare his client's life. He said emotional abuse from her mother and sexual abuse from her stepfather "killed Lisa's soul."

    "I'm not ashamed to ask you all for mercy," Duchardt told the jury. "I ask for it on behalf of Lisa and all the people who love her."

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/10/26/pregnant.slaying.ap/index.html

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    I'm never sure how I feel about the death penalty.  In this case I think it is justified though.  I can't imagine how that poor woman must have felt whilst being attacked. 

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    Woman gets death in mother-to-be murder
    Judge hands down sentence in case where baby was cut from womb
    The Associated Press
    updated 10:07 a.m. MT, Fri., April. 4, 2008
    KANSAS CITY, Missouri - A Missouri woman has been sentenced to death for killing a mother-to-be and cutting the baby from her womb.

    Judge Gary Fenner handed down the sentence after a jury recommended the death penalty for Lisa Montgomery in the slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett.

    The 39-year-old from Melvern was convicted in October of kidnapping resulting in death in the Dec. 16, 2004, killing of Stinnett. Montgomery was arrested at her farmhouse a day after showing off Stinnett's baby as her own.


    © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23956144/

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    [quote author=puzzld link=topic=10355.msg796201#msg796201 date=1207331667]
    Woman gets death in mother-to-be murder
    Judge hands down sentence in case where baby was cut from womb
    The Associated Press
    updated 10:07 a.m. MT, Fri., April. 4, 2008
    KANSAS CITY, Missouri - A Missouri woman has been sentenced to death for killing a mother-to-be and cutting the baby from her womb.

    Judge Gary Fenner handed down the sentence after a jury recommended the death penalty for Lisa Montgomery in the slaying of Bobbie Jo Stinnett.

    The 39-year-old from Melvern was convicted in October of kidnapping resulting in death in the Dec. 16, 2004, killing of Stinnett. Montgomery was arrested at her farmhouse a day after showing off Stinnett's baby as her own.


    © 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23956144/


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    oops!!!  :lol:

    The crime rate in that town is absolutely unbelievable!!! This story is just as bad as the Ken McElroy case from Skidmore.
    I will NEVER set foot in that state again.

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    Hahah!

    God, what a horrible story. Thank goodness the baby is alive and well, at least. :(

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    The federal government, continuing its string of executions this year, has set the dates for two more, including the first woman in more than six decades.

    Lisa Montgomery is expected to receive lethal injection on December 8, the Justice Department says. In 2004, she was convicted of strangling a Missouri woman who was eight-months pregnant, then cut out and kidnapped the baby.

    The last woman executed by the US government was Bonnie Brown Heady on Dec. 18, 1953, according to US Bureau of Prisons records, for kidnapping and murder.
    Also in 1953, Ethel Rosenberg was famously executed for espionage, along with her husband, Julius.

    Montgomery's execution will be the Justice Department's eighth this year after a 17-hear hiatus.
    Before this year, the federal government had not executed anyone since 2003, and just four people since the 1960, Bureau of Prisons records show.
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    I had forgotten about this case, but did some research on it after seeing that her execution had been set. It's hard for me to believe that the baby would be almost 16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I had forgotten about this case, but did some research on it after seeing that her execution had been set. It's hard for me to believe that the baby would be almost 16.
    The baby is alive! I wonder how she's doing now too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Country Mac View Post
    The baby is alive! I wonder how she's doing now too.
    Right, I just meant that she would almost be 16 at this time. Her birthday is in December...and what a birthday.

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    I was wondering why someone bumped a 12 year old thread.


    Well, Lisa, I hope it was worth it.

    No one cares if you found Jesus. No one cares that you're "sorry."

    No one gives a fuck for any remorse you may show.

    You killed a mom to be, and damn near took the baby's life too.


    I hope you fucking suffer until your execution, and that your afterlife is a never ending series of the kind of evil you visited on Bobbie Jo.


    You deserve nothing less.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    https://fox4kc.com/news/judge-delays...issouri-woman/

    A federal judge said the Justice Department unlawfully rescheduled the execution of Lisa Montgomery, the only woman on federal death row, potentially setting up the Trump administration to schedule the execution after president-elect Joe Biden takes office.

    U.S. District Court Judge Randolph Moss also vacated an order from the director of the Bureau of Prisons that had set Montgomery’s execution date for Jan. 12.

    Montgomery had previously been scheduled to be put to death at the Federal Correctional Complex in Terre Haute, Indiana, this month, but Moss delayed the execution after her attorneys contracted coronavirus visiting their client and asked him to extend the amount of time to file a clemency petition.

    Moss prohibited the Bureau of Prisons from carrying out Lisa Montgomery’s execution before the end of the year and officials rescheduled her execution date for Jan. 12. But Moss ruled on Wednesday that the agency was also prohibited from rescheduling the date while a stay was in place.

    “The Court, accordingly, concludes that the Director’s order setting a new execution date while the Court’s stay was in effect was ‘not in accordance with law,’” Moss wrote.

    A spokesperson for the Justice Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Under the order, the Bureau of Prisons cannot reschedule Montgomery’s execution until at least Jan. 1. Generally, under Justice Department guidelines, a death-row inmate must be notified at least 20 days before the execution.

    Because of the judge’s order, if the Justice Department chooses to reschedule the date in January, it could mean that the execution would be scheduled after Biden’s inauguration on Jan. 20.
    Federal execution numbers top states’ for 1st time, report states

    A spokesperson for Biden has told The Associated Press the president-elect “opposes the death penalty now and in the future” and would work as president to end its use in office. But Biden’s representatives have not said whether executions would be paused immediately once Biden takes office.

    Montgomery was convicted of killing 23-year-old Bobbie Jo Stinnett in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore in December 2004. She used a rope to strangle Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant, and then a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from the womb, authorities said.

    Prosecutors said Montgomery removed the baby from Stinnett’s body, took the child with her, and attempted to pass the girl off as her own. Montgomery’s legal team has argued that their client suffers from serious mental illnesses.

    “Given the severity of Mrs. Montgomery’s mental illness, the sexual and physical torture she endured throughout her life, and the connection between her trauma and the facts of her crime, we appeal to President Trump to grant her mercy, and commute her sentence to life imprisonment,” one of Montgomery’s lawyers, Sandra Babcock, said in a statement.

    Two other federal inmates are scheduled to be executed in January but have tested positive for coronavirus and their attorneys are also seeking delays to their executions.

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    I am not for the death penalty. I remember this case, but the death penalty won't bring back a murdered person. The death penalty is punitive and see it as state sanctioned revenge.

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    I'm not a proponent of the death penalty either, but somehow this one seems appropriate.
    You are talking to a woman who has laughed in the face of death, sneered at doom and chuckled at catastrophe.
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    A federal appeals court has cleared the way for the only woman on federal death row to be executed before President-elect Joe Biden takes office.

    The ruling, handed down Friday by a three-judge panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, concluded that a lower court judge erred when he vacated Lisa Montgomery’s execution date in an order last week.

    U.S. District Court Judge Randolph Moss had ruled the Justice Department unlawfully rescheduled Montgomery’s execution and he vacated an order from the director of the Bureau of Prisons scheduling her death for Jan. 12.

    Montgomery had been scheduled to be put to death at the Federal Correctional Complex in Terre Haute, Indiana, in December, but Moss delayed the execution after her attorneys contracted coronavirus visiting their client and asked him to extend the time to file a clemency petition.

    Moss concluded that the under his order the Bureau of Prisons could not even reschedule Montgomery’s execution until at least Jan. 1. But the appeals panel disagreed.

    Meaghan VerGow, an attorney for Montgomery, said her legal team would ask for the full appeals court to review the case and said Montgomery should not be executed on Jan. 12.

    Montgomery was convicted of killing 23-year-old Bobbie Jo Stinnett in the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore in December 2004. She used a rope to strangle Stinnett, who was eight months pregnant, and then cut the baby girl from the womb with a kitchen knife, authorities said. Montgomery took the child with her and attempted to pass the girl off as her own, prosecutors said.

    Montgomery’s lawyers have argued that their client suffers from serious mental illnesses. Biden opposes the death penalty and his spokesman, TJ Ducklo, has said he would work to end its use. But Biden has not said whether he will halt federal executions after he takes office Jan. 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queena View Post
    I am not for the death penalty. I remember this case, but the death penalty won't bring back a murdered person. The death penalty is punitive and see it as state sanctioned revenge.
    I understand this, completely.

    Part of me wants for these people to suffer the indignance of a long life wasted in prison, and part of me wants instant, final justice for those we can't bring back.

    It's obvious even from the photos that Lisa Montgomery has mental issues, and that's got to be dealt with here, but it won't. And we'll likely see more of these fucked up
    cases as the years roll on because hey, who gives a fuck about mental illness and the havoc that it can wreak on the sufferer or on society at large? Welcome to the United States of
    no one gives a shit about you.

    I'm not quite as vehement in my hatred with women perpetrators as I am/have been with males. It's obvious to me that when men commit crimes, they are, in many cases, horrific souls who should be put down and forgotten. Women, on the other hand, like Lisa, do these horrific things because they're mentally ill and got little or no treatment. And being a woman means you aren't listened to, anyway, when it comes to medical matters, far too often. Doctors think "it's all in your head", or some other bullshit, so they don't bother treating you. I don't understand that mindset, and I want to throat punch people who treat others with such reckless disregard.
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    It's halted again.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    A judge has halted the U.S. government's first execution of a female inmate in nearly seven decades, saying a court must first determine whether the Kansas woman who killed an expectant mother, cut the baby from her womb and then tried to pass off the newborn as her own is mentally competent.

    The order, handed down less than 24 hours before Lisa Montgomery was set to be executed Tuesday at the federal prison complex in Terre Haute, Indiana, temporarily blocks the federal Bureau of Prisons from moving forward with her execution. The Justice Department didn’t immediately comment.

    Montgomery’s lawyers have said their client suffers from hallucinations — including hearing her abusive mother’s voice — as well as a disoriented sense of reality and gaps in her consciousness. They have long argued that she is not mentally fit to be executed because she suffers from serious mental illness and faced years of emotional and sexual trauma as a child.

    U.S. District Judge James Patrick Hanlon found that the court must first hold a hearing to determine whether Montgomery meets the legal criteria for competency before the execution can move forward, finding she “would be irreparably injured if the government executes her when she is not competent to be executed.”

    Kelley Henry, one of Montgomery's attorneys, praised the ruling and said her client is “mentally deteriorating.”

    “Mrs. Montgomery has brain damage and severe mental illness that was exacerbated by the lifetime of sexual torture she suffered at the hands of caretakers," Henry said.

    Separately, the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia issued another stay in Montgomery’s case for an appeal related to the Justice Department’s execution protocols and said briefs must be fully filed in that case by Jan. 29, raising the prospect her execution could be delayed until after President-elect Joe Biden takes office. Biden has said he opposes the death penalty and a spokesman told the AP he would work to end its use in office, but Biden’s team has not said whether he would halt executions after his inauguration on Jan. 20.

    Montgomery drove about 170 miles (274 kilometers) from her Melvern, Kansas, farmhouse to the northwest Missouri town of Skidmore under the guise of adopting a rat terrier puppy from Bobbie Jo Stinnett, a 23-year-old dog breeder. She strangled Stinnett with a rope before performing a crude cesarean and fleeing with the baby.

    She was arrested the next day after showing off the premature infant, Victoria Jo, who is now 16 years old and hasn’t spoken publicly about the tragedy.

    “As we walked across the threshold our Amber Alert was scrolling across the TV at that very moment," recalled Randy Strong, who was part of the northwest Missouri major case squad at the time.

    He looked to his right and saw Montgomery holding the newborn and was awash in relief when she handed her over to law enforcement. The preceding hours had been a blur in which he photographed Stinnett’s body and spent a sleepless night looking for clues — unsure of whether the baby was dead or alive and no idea what she looked like.

    But then tips began arriving about Montgomery, who had a history of faking pregnancies and suddenly had a baby. Strong, now the sheriff of Nodaway County, where the killing happened, hopped in an unmarked car with another officer. He learned while en route that the email address fischer4kids@hotmail.com that was used to set up the deadly meeting with Stinnett had been sent from a dial-up connection at Montgomery’s home.

    “I absolutely knew I was walking into the killer's home,” recalled Strong, saying rat terriers ran around his feet as he approached her house. Like Stinnett, Montgomery also raised rat terriers.

    Bobbie Jo Stinnett's mother, Becky Harper, sobbed as she told a Missouri dispatcher about stumbling across her daughter in a pool of blood, her womb slashed open and the child she had been carrying missing.

    “It’s like she exploded or something,” Harper told the dispatcher on Dec. 16, 2004, during the desperate yet futile attempt to get help for her daughter.

    Prosecutors said her motive was that Montgomery’s ex-husband knew she had undergone a tubal ligation that made her sterile and planned to reveal she was lying about being pregnant in an effort to get custody of two of their four children. Needing a baby before a fast-approaching court date, Montgomery turned her focus on Stinnett, whom she had met at dog shows.

    Montgomery’s lawyers, though, have argued that sexual abuse during Montgomery’s childhood led to mental illness.

    Her stepfather denied the sexual abuse in videotaped testimony and said he didn’t have a good memory when confronted with a transcript of a divorce proceeding in which he admitted some physical abuse. Her mother testified that she never filed a police complaint because he had threatened her and her children.

    But the jurors who heard the case, some crying through the gruesome testimony, disregarded the defense in convicting her of kidnapping resulting in death.

    Prosecutors argued that Stinnett regained consciousness and tried to defend herself as Montgomery used a kitchen knife to cut the baby girl from her womb. Later that day, Montgomery called her husband to pick her up in the parking lot of a Long John Silver’s in Topeka, Kansas, telling him she had delivered the baby earlier in the day at a nearby birthing center.

    She eventually confessed, and the rope and bloody knife used to kill Stinnett were found in her car. A search of her computer showed she used it to research caesareans and order a birthing kit.

    Montgomery originally was scheduled to be put to death on Dec. 8. But the execution was temporarily blocked after her attorneys contracted the coronavirus visiting her in prison.

    The U.S. has executed 10 people at Terre Haute since the resumption of federal executions after a 17-year pause started on July 14. Anti-death penalty groups said President Donald Trump was pushing for executions prior to the November election in a cynical bid to burnish a reputation as a law-and-order leader.

    U.S. officials have portrayed the executions as bringing long-delayed justice for victims and their families.

    The last woman executed by the federal government was Bonnie Brown Heady on Dec. 18, 1953, for the kidnapping and murder of a 6-year-old boy in Missouri.

    The last woman executed by a state was Kelly Gissendaner, 47, on Sept. 30, 2015, in Georgia. She was convicted of murder in the 1997 slaying of her husband after she conspired with her lover, who stabbed Douglas Gissendaner to death.

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