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    Ian Bailey (66) long time suspect in murder of Sophie Toscan du Plaintier died by heart attack

    So, I wasn't even aware of this case until I heard about his death. There is a documentary on Netflix called "Sophie: A Murder in West Cork" which I started watching last night. Apparently, he's never been convicted here in Ireland for the murder, but France has convicted him of the Murder and has been fighting with the Irish government forever to get him extradited over there to serve his sentence. She was found outside the home and down the long drive way, in her nightgown and had suffered severe facial and brain injuries due to a concrete block crushing her face and skull. She was found propped up in a huge briar bush. Just a really bizarre case as far as I've seen so far.

    Anyway, he dropped dead of a heart attack in Cork this past weekend and it's been all over the papers since. Also, I love that this town is pronounced "Skull"

    Sophie Toscan du Plantier?s son has said her family continues to search for ?truth and justice? following the death of Ian Bailey.

    Pierre-Louis Baudey-Vignaud said his family will ?never be able to obtain a confession? from Mr Bailey after his death on Sunday.

    Mr Bailey (66) was the main suspect in the murder of the French producer. He had a severe heart condition and had been a candidate for surgery.

    The body of Ms Toscan du Plantier (39) was found badly beaten outside her holiday home in Schull, West Cork, in December 1996. Mr Bailey, with an address at The Prairie in Schull, was convicted of her murder in his absence by a Paris court in May 2019, which imposed a 25-year sentence. He had no legal representation, did not attend the court, and described it as a farce at the time.

    In October 2020, the Irish High Court rejected an attempt by French authorities to extradite Mr Bailey for the murder. The court ruled that he would not be surrendered to France after a European Arrest Warrant was issued in 2019. Mr Bailey has always vehemently denied any involvement in Ms Toscan du Plantier?s death.

    Speaking in a video message to Irish national broadcaster RT? on Monday, Mr Baudey-Vignaud said his family is continuing efforts for ?truth and justice? about the murder of his mother. He said: ?An investigation is still under way in Ireland and we are confident that the discovery of new evidence, the hearing of new witnesses, and the revelation of possible complicity will enable Irish police to close the case, finally, 27 years after my mother?s murder.? Earlier on Monday, Ms Toscan du Plantier?s uncle also said that Irish investigators must continue to probe her murder.

    Jean Pierre Gazeau said Mr Bailey ?never faced legal consequences? in Ireland. Mr Gazeau said his family were so certain of Mr Bailey?s guilt because he was convicted of her murder in a French court, adding there were so many ?circumstantial evidences? tying him to her death.

    Mr Gazeau told RT? radio: ?Ian Bailey, he is a human being and may his soul rest in peace.

    ?Ian Bailey remained free in Ireland. He never faced legal consequences in that country. He constantly refused to answer questions from French investigators from the judge. ?He tied himself in lies, omissions, contradictions before Irish investigators. ?Ian Bailey consistently evaded justice and refused to disclose the truth to a judge about the murder of Sophie.? He added: ?I think the cold case team?s investigation in Ireland should continue because there is a strong possibility to have new evidence coming from DNA researchers with this new system of investigation.?

    Mr Gazeau said Sophie?s parents, whom he said were unwell, were to be told about Mr Bailey?s death later on Monday. He also said that Mr Bailey attempted to contact him a number of times.

    ?We always refused to establish a direct contact with Ian Bailey. This is a matter of justice. When someone is accused of murder, I think the most important thing is to have a normal relationship between that person, which is considered a suspect, and the police. ?It?s not normal to have a direct communication between the suspect and the family of the victim.?

    Manchester-born Bailey tried to build a career as a journalist before moving to West Cork in the mid-1990s where he turned his hand to poetry, gardening and running a pizza stall with his former partner.
    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/...s-1578487.html

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    I remember watching the documentary couple of years ago. I had no idea he died. He clearly was responsible for her murder, in my humble opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    I remember watching the documentary couple of years ago. I had no idea he died. He clearly was responsible for her murder, in my humble opinion.
    The gossip on the island is that he's so hated that he will probably need to be cremated and not have a disclosed resting place, so I'm assuming you aren't the only one with that opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    The gossip on the island is that he's so hated that he will probably need to be cremated and not have a disclosed resting place, so I'm assuming you aren't the only one with that opinion.
    I sincerely hope others who have killed and not been held responsible for the crime(s) are treated poorly the remainder of their lives, much like this jerk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    I sincerely hope others who have killed and not been held responsible for the crime(s) are treated poorly the remainder of their lives, much like this jerk.
    People here seem divided on the case and if he did it or not. I watched the rest of the documentary on Netflix and it seems to me that he had to be the one. I know how these small Irish towns work now and trust me, if you so much as fart the entire town knows what it sounded like, smelled like and have diagnosed you with Bowel Cancer within ten minutes. It's hard for me to believe that in the decades since the murder that NOBODY else was suspected. The Gardai aren't equipped for this kind of case so of course they couldn't collect the proper DNA samples and have a chain of custody over it. Especially 26 years ago. So I can't completely blame them, but that's the reason they didn't have any kind of scientific evidence on the case. Only circumstantial evidence, which is STILL EVIDENCE. So, as of right now I'm leaning toward him doing it.

    I'm going to seek out other documentaries on it since they tend to be biased.

    I'm having trouble figuring out why they didn't just extradite the guy to France. It's not like France has the death penalty and this dude was from England. He came to Ireland trying to appropriate their culture (a HUGE NO NO HERE, Especially if you're fucking English) and it would have been easy enough to just send him off so he wouldn't be their problem anymore. He beat his partner on a continuous basis so it's not like he was an upstanding citizen that everyone liked. It's crazy to me that they didn't just ship him off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    People here seem divided on the case and if he did it or not. I watched the rest of the documentary on Netflix and it seems to me that he had to be the one. I know how these small Irish towns work now and trust me, if you so much as fart the entire town knows what it sounded like, smelled like and have diagnosed you with Bowel Cancer within ten minutes. It's hard for me to believe that in the decades since the murder that NOBODY else was suspected. The Gardai aren't equipped for this kind of case so of course they couldn't collect the proper DNA samples and have a chain of custody over it. Especially 26 years ago. So I can't completely blame them, but that's the reason they didn't have any kind of scientific evidence on the case. Only circumstantial evidence, which is STILL EVIDENCE. So, as of right now I'm leaning toward him doing it.

    I'm going to seek out other documentaries on it since they tend to be biased.

    I'm having trouble figuring out why they didn't just extradite the guy to France. It's not like France has the death penalty and this dude was from England. He came to Ireland trying to appropriate their culture (a HUGE NO NO HERE, Especially if you're fucking English) and it would have been easy enough to just send him off so he wouldn't be their problem anymore. He beat his partner on a continuous basis so it's not like he was an upstanding citizen that everyone liked. It's crazy to me that they didn't just ship him off.
    I noticed that on your FB post about this and saw the comments were essentially divided associated with his guilt. It doesn't help with how the Guardia handled the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewitchingstorm View Post
    I noticed that on your FB post about this and saw the comments were essentially divided associated with his guilt. It doesn't help with how the Guardia handled the case.
    RIGHT?! I was fully expecting a bunch of "HE FUCKING DID IT", but it was mixed! I really didn't see that coming. One person on that is actually American, but has been living here for a long time. Two others are Sisters and each have a different view on it lol. It's kind of crazy. So, between that and them not just extraditing him, I'm thinking it goes deeper and that the Netflix doc was biased. More deep diving needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    RIGHT?! I was fully expecting a bunch of "HE FUCKING DID IT", but it was mixed! I really didn't see that coming. One person on that is actually American, but has been living here for a long time. Two others are Sisters and each have a different view on it lol. It's kind of crazy. So, between that and them not just extraditing him, I'm thinking it goes deeper and that the Netflix doc was biased. More deep diving needed.
    There definitely must be much more to it. Totally agree.

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