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    Adam Johnson (29) died on the ice when a hockey skate slashed his throat - Other player charged

    So, I heard about this happening a week or so ago and didn't think much of it. Then I just saw that they are pressing charges against the other player. Supposedly there is video of the incident out there that shows that it was done on purpose, but I've yet to find it. If I can find it, I will post it here.

    A man arrested on suspicion of manslaughter following the death of ice hockey player Adam Johnson has been bailed pending further inquiries, South Yorkshire Police said.

    Nottingham Panthers star Mr Johnson died when his throat was slashed on Saturday, October 28, in an incident labelled a 'freak accident' by his team.

    The 29-year-old briefly stood up, bleeding profusely on to the ice, before collapsing again during the game in Sheffield. He received immediate medical attention, with CPR performed on the ice, and was taken to hospital but could not be saved.While the name of the person arrested was not released in compliance with UK law, South Yorkshire Police released a statement yesterday confirming that a man was in police custody after his arrest on Tuesday on suspicion of manslaughter.

    South Yorkshire Police confirmed today he has been bailed to a date in the New Year as inquiries continue. Detective chief superintendent Becs Horsfall said yesterday: 'Our investigation launched immediately following this tragedy and we have been carrying out extensive inquiries ever since to piece together the events which led to the loss of Adam in these unprecedented circumstances. 'We have been speaking to highly specialised experts in their field to assist in our inquiries and continue to work closely with the health and safety department at Sheffield City Council, which is supporting our ongoing investigation. 'Adam's death has sent shockwaves through many communities, from our local residents here in Sheffield to ice hockey fans across the world. 'We know these communities will expect us to handle this investigation with the same professionalism, fairness and sensitivity as any other and request that members of the public refrain from comment and speculation which could hinder this process. 'Our thoughts remain with all affected by this devastating incident as inquiries continue.'

    An inquest into Mr Johnson's death was opened and adjourned on November 3, but Sheffield's senior coroner, Tanyka Rawden, has already called on the sport's governing bodies to take action. In a Prevention of Future Deaths Report to Ice Hockey UK and the English Ice Hockey Association (EIHA), Ms Rawden said she is 'sufficiently concerned that deaths may occur in the future if neck guards or protectors are not worn', with both organisations given 56 days to say what action has been taken - or why action has not been taken. The EIHA said neck guards will become mandatory from 2024 but the Elite League, in which the Nottingham Panthers and Sheffield Steelers compete, is not under its control. The Elite Ice Hockey League said it will not make the use of neck guards mandatory but will 'strongly encourage' players and officials to wear them.

    Mr Johnson's aunt, Kari, was the first in his family to make public comments in the aftermath of the arrest yesterday. 'We're just going to have to let it play out and see what happens,' she told The Mirror. 'Whatever they'd decided, I would have had to live with it. But I'm just glad they are being diligent with doing what they're supposed to be doing.

    Mr Johnson was recently laid to rest in his native state of Minnesota just last week. At a memorial event on November 5, fans could be seen hugging and wiping away tears as they looked at the tributes and lined up on the ice to sign the condolence book, for which a carpet had been laid to allow people to walk into the bowl. Panthers fan Michelle Hallam had attended the fateful match with her young son and 40 of his classmates, making sure he put his head down when it became clear Johnson had been grievously injured. She told BBC News her son 'wanted to see all the tributes' despite what had happened, adding that he was 'on edge' just walking near the arena.

    The Panthers said in a previous statement that the tragedy was 'still very raw' for players and staff. The team said: 'If you have been affected by the game last weekend and the loss of Adam - and you feel that you may need some additional help and support - local mental health charities will be in the Motorpoint Arena foyer for those that want to have a conversation.'

    An obituary written for Johnson, posted on the website of Dougherty Funeral Home in his hometown of Hibbing, Minnesota, paid tribute to the player. It read: 'Adam had a quiet confidence about him and was never boastful. 'He was never looking to be the centre of attention, but rather he preferred to listen to others and do what he could to make them feel important.'

    National ice hockey league games have been suspended since Johnson's death, with matches set to resume today - with all teams save for Nottingham and Sheffield expected to compete. Mr Johnson has been remembered across the world following the incident, with alumni the Pittsburgh Penguins taking a moment to remember him ahead of a game against the Anaheim Ducks on Monday.

    Calls have been made for neck guards to be made mandatory in professional ice hockey but the Elite Ice Hockey League - the top professional league in the UK - says it will only 'strongly encourage' players and officials to wear them.
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    And OF COURSE, the racists are all over this like white on rice because the other player was black I wonder if this is really why he's being charged since at first it was being treated as a freak accident. I would REALLY love to find that video.

    ‘Vile’ social media trolls are targeting a Black ice hockey player who accidentally killed American athlete Adam Johnson.

    Johnson, 29, who played for UK team Nottingham Panthers, died Sunday after Sheffield Steelers star Matt Petgrave’s skate cut his throat in a ‘freak accident’.

    Petgrave, from Toronto, Canada, crashed into one of Johnson’s teammates during the Saturday match, footage showed. The collision appeared to throw him off balance and cause him to raise his leg into the air towards the Minnesota native.

    There has been no suggestion Petgrave did anything wrong, with police stressing that an investigation into Johnson’s death is ‘normal procedure’.

    Yet in ‘sickening’ posts on X, formerly known as Twitter, users accused Petgrave of being a ‘murderer’ before declaring ‘White lives matter’ or ‘Keep hockey white’.

    One called the accident ‘anti-white terrorism’ as others used racist language to describe Petgrave.

    Fans of Johnson and Petgrave see otherwise, however. Whether at a makeshift shrine for Johnson outside the Panthers’ Motorpoint Arena in Nottingham or online, people are making it clear that abuse against Petgrave is ‘disgusting’.

    Speaking at the tribute lined by bouquets of flowers and ’47’ mugs – Johnson’s jersey number – fan Tina Taylor pleaded for the ‘awful trolling’ to stop.

    She told The Telegraph: ‘[Petgrave] was absolutely distraught by the death of an opponent but it was a tragic accident and he was not to blame.’

    Countless users on X echoed this, with Barnsley local Charlie Harvey saying: ‘The amount of hate and abuse Matt Petgrave is receiving is sickening!

    ‘A freak accident doesn’t give people the right to give abuse and harassment to any human!’
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    https://metro.co.uk/2023/10/30/vile-...eath-19743012/

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    Im trying to figure out the logistics of this. Im not getting it.

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    I saw the video somewhere online. People were commenting that it looked deliberate, but I didn't see that. It looked like he lost control and his leg swung up, hitting the guy in the neck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    That doesn't look deliberate at all to me. He checked the guy and looks like he lost his balance and instinctively threw his leg up trying to balance like you would do on a balance beam but in motion. Do they really think that this dude threw out a karate move on the ice trying to kill the guy? I'm convinced that the only reason he's being charged is because he's black and the UK are notorious racists. Ridiculous.

    In the U.S. I'm positive that he would be found not guilty with a decent lawyer because you have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury. I mean, since he's black they still might convict depending on who's on the jury, but more than likely he would be acquitted. Unfortunately, the UK doesn't have jury trials and it's all decided by a judge and more than likely it'll be some racist asshole that is begging to convict a black man.
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    He definitely raised his leg to kick him away at the least. I know nothing about hockey, so I don't know if that's allowed. I don't think he meant to kil him, but I think his actions were intentional in kicking him away and it's behaviour that he should have known could result in the death, so I think the manslaughter charge seems reasonable.

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    It's crazy how people can interpret the video very differently. I think he won't end up being charged for this reason - it's just too hard to know exactly what the intent was, if there was any.

    Edit: now that I have watched it closely, it looks like he clipped the skate of the guy right in front of him, making him lose control.


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    It looked like he purposely went to kick at him to me maybe not with intent to kill but there?s no reason to be lifting your leg up that high imo. Plus dude has an extensive history of penalties and whatnot. People seem to be very split on the matter idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    He definitely raised his leg to kick him away at the least. I know nothing about hockey, so I don't know if that's allowed. I don't think he meant to kil him, but I think his actions were intentional in kicking him away and it's behaviour that he should have known could result in the death, so I think the manslaughter charge seems reasonable.
    Yes he deliberately lifted his leg like that. That was intentional. Im pretty sure its against the rules.

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    This is horrifying. I saw another incidence of this happen live on TV when Buffalo Sabre Clint Malarchuk got his carotid artery slashed during a game by a skate. I think that was late 80s, early 90s because I was pretty young when it happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    This is horrifying. I saw another incidence of this happen live on TV when Buffalo Sabre Clint Malarchuk got his carotid artery slashed during a game by a skate. I think that was late 80s, early 90s because I was pretty young when it happened.
    It's so dangerous, those skates are like razor blades. I wonder if there will be some sort of change put in place to keep this from happening again.


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    I'm split on this but I think at the least he intentionally meant to kick him.

    This is why:

    1) The player that kicked him has a history of other shady penalties and behavior like this, including kicking.
    2) I've played ice hockey and watched hundreds of professional hockey games, both NHL and AHL. I've never seen someone lose their balance and try to kick their leg up that high to correct it. Most other neck vs blade incidents have been with falling, not getting kicked in the neck while standing upright. It's just not something that happens.

    Obviously, even if the kick was on purpose, there's no way Matt thought he was murdering Adam. I hope this makes neck guards become mandatory but hockey is notorious for players rebelling against mandatory gear (goalies didn't even used to wear fucking masks....)

    I don't think it's a race thing. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. We had a memorial for him at our AHL game because some of the guys on both teams had played with him in the past. It was super sad. I have been glad to see more of the players on our team and the teams we have been playing have been wearing neck guards, and I think most clubs have made them available for all players.


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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    I'm split on this but I think at the least he intentionally meant to kick him.

    This is why:

    1) The player that kicked him has a history of other shady penalties and behavior like this, including kicking.
    2) I've played ice hockey and watched hundreds of professional hockey games, both NHL and AHL. I've never seen someone lose their balance and try to kick their leg up that high to correct it. Most other neck vs blade incidents have been with falling, not getting kicked in the neck while standing upright. It's just not something that happens.

    Obviously, even if the kick was on purpose, there's no way Matt thought he was murdering Adam. I hope this makes neck guards become mandatory but hockey is notorious for players rebelling against mandatory gear (goalies didn't even used to wear fucking masks....)

    I don't think it's a race thing. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. We had a memorial for him at our AHL game because some of the guys on both teams had played with him in the past. It was super sad. I have been glad to see more of the players on our team and the teams we have been playing have been wearing neck guards, and I think most clubs have made them available for all players.
    After viewing this video over and over, and over and over, I have to agree. I absofuckinglutely think he meant to kick him, and what happened was the outcome when some dumbass thinks he can get one over on another player in that manner. Fuck that guy. There was no reason for that spinning heel kick bullshit in the first place.

    As soon as I saw that blood on the ice, I knew he was a goner. That was arterial spray, and even if there was a trauma center inside the building, he was 99% likely to die.

    Yes, it's tragic, but that shit was deliberate. No, he may not have meant to kill him, but this jackass had to know that doing what he was doing was inherently risky and dangerous to others. And there's no fucking cause for that in sports. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    I'm split on this but I think at the least he intentionally meant to kick him.

    This is why:

    1) The player that kicked him has a history of other shady penalties and behavior like this, including kicking.
    2) I've played ice hockey and watched hundreds of professional hockey games, both NHL and AHL. I've never seen someone lose their balance and try to kick their leg up that high to correct it. Most other neck vs blade incidents have been with falling, not getting kicked in the neck while standing upright. It's just not something that happens.

    Obviously, even if the kick was on purpose, there's no way Matt thought he was murdering Adam. I hope this makes neck guards become mandatory but hockey is notorious for players rebelling against mandatory gear (goalies didn't even used to wear fucking masks....)

    I don't think it's a race thing. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. We had a memorial for him at our AHL game because some of the guys on both teams had played with him in the past. It was super sad. I have been glad to see more of the players on our team and the teams we have been playing have been wearing neck guards, and I think most clubs have made them available for all players.
    I agree with all this. It even looks like he hesitates and lets that other player pass before directly targeting Adam with his kick.

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    I was raised on watching hockey. His move was intentional (in my humble opinion), but I do not think he meant to kill him.

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    Poor Adam...he didnt even know what hit him. I feel bad for everyone who witnessed that shit I would have fainted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Poor Adam...he didnt even know what hit him. I feel bad for everyone who witnessed that shit I would have fainted.
    Yeah, that was definitely not for the faint of heart. That'll give some of those players and fans some PTSD, you can bet on that.
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    Intentional kick. Unintentional result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHill View Post
    Intentional kick. Unintentional result.
    Agreed

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    Intentional kick. Unintentional result.
    Yep.

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