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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    So are we going to require visas for women to travel between the states now? I could see the GOP doing it. Plenty of people cross state lines to go things that are illegal in their home states and no one cares, but they are up in arms that women are traveling for abortions. So much for states rights. States get rights as long as they agree with the GOP. Also, they are all about corporations having rights, unless they aren't the 'correct' beliefs. They are trying to out crazy each other with their extremist RWNJ views.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2112084.html

    Texas attorney general wants to prosecute companies that help women access abortions
    You know those tracking chips that we were so worried about in the Covid shots? No need for a visa system. Actually, we don't even need that, find my phone probably means we have the technology to do it.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    I'm very much a "safe, legal, and rare" person. In my perfect world, no one who doesn't want a child would get pregnant. BC would be readily and cheaply available. No wanted pregnancy would go off the rails endangering the mother and/or producing defects incompatible with life. No family would be in the position of deciding they just can't "welcome" one or five more. No 50-year-old empty nester should have to derail her future retirement to provide for a change of life baby (unless she wants to) But until that glorious day, I'm not inclined to set myself up as judge and jury to decide for someone else.

    I have a friend who was the receptionist at a busy PP clinic. She assures me that not one woman ever came bouncing in for a procedure. It was always a tough situation. We talk about the 10-year-old assault victim, but what about the 30-year-old with 4 kids she can't care for? The 18-year-old college student who frankly doesn't know for sure who the father is. The meth addict. Do we want her to raise kids? At least she's self-aware enough to say no!
    I have never been pregnant, never had an abortion, but always supported every woman's right to choose. My older sister has 4 kids and had 2 abortions after her first kid, for really frivolous reasons. According to her all of her kids were not planned, but she kept the other ones. I am not 100% sure, but I think I am the only person she ever told about her abortions (this was during one of the brief times in our lives where we were friends). She was very pro-choice and an outspoken Clinton supporter at this time. Fast forward a few years and she is a card carrying RWNJ, arguing against abortion rights. I have come to the belief that most outspoken GOP women had their abortions and now want to limit anyone else from having the options they had. They want to pull the ladder up after them, to keep anyone else from being able to get the help that they did. They are the worst.

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    You know those tracking chips that we were so worried about in the Covid shots? No need for a visa system. Actually, we don't even need that, find my phone probably means we have the technology to do it.
    True, and the anti-vaxxers would probably be cheering all women getting fixed with a chip.

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    Pass crazy restrictive laws that label routine health care as 'baby murder'...what could go wrong?! In other news, the GOP was labeling the 10 year old that was raped and got pregnant as fake news. They seriously thought a 10 year old couldn't get pregnant. But these are the people making health care laws for women. You can't make this shit up.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    Texas hospitals are refusing to see people with serious pregnancy issues for fear of violating post-Roe abortion ban, medical group says

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Pass crazy restrictive laws that label routine health care as 'baby murder'...what could go wrong?! In other news, the GOP was labeling the 10 year old that was raped and got pregnant as fake news. They seriously thought a 10 year old couldn't get pregnant. But these are the people making health care laws for women. You can't make this shit up.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/te...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    Texas hospitals are refusing to see people with serious pregnancy issues for fear of violating post-Roe abortion ban, medical group says
    I got into an arguement with someone about being able to become pregnant at 10. My bff in grade school had a teacher ask her to wear a bra in second grade because she had boobs. She had her period at 9, and her mom said to her "now you can have babies". She was so upset and confused.

    Thats messed up that pregnant people with complications cant get help. I thought they were allowed to do abortions if the mother's life is in danger?

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    Now that I'm here, I'm tempted to just block all of this shit out. Most over here don't even realize what's happening in America and when I tell them they think I'm lying. Then when they realize that I'm not, they basically don't want to know about it. They have a mentality over here of minding their own business instead of trying to save the world. Part of me finds that frustrating and horrible and the other part of me is jealous that they can do that.

    Why can't I just bring you all here? I wish I could.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Now that I'm here, I'm tempted to just block all of this shit out. Most over here don't even realize what's happening in America and when I tell them they think I'm lying. Then when they realize that I'm not, they basically don't want to know about it. They have a mentality over here of minding their own business instead of trying to save the world. Part of me finds that frustrating and horrible and the other part of me is jealous that they can do that.

    Why can't I just bring you all here? I wish I could.
    Some people in my family have been like that, burying their head in the sand. It makes me want to scream and Im a pretty mild mannered.

    Can I come to Ireland? Ohio sucks balls.

    I took an early pregnancy test at 6 weeks one day and I was negative, the next day, I was positive. I called the doctor to make an appointment and They told me the pregnany is barely viable at 8 weeks, they will see me at 10 weeks If I would have just taken the 1 test, I wouldnt have known I was pregnant. The 6 week thing is a fucking joke.

    ETA:
    Here’s the thing: Because of the way pregnancy is usually measured, you’re not actually pregnant during the first two weeks or so of your pregnancy. Healthcare providers calculate the length of an average pregnancy as 40 weeks, starting from the first day of your last menstrual period—this is known as the LMP dating method.
    So the first 2 weeks dont count. So basically you cant get an abortion after 4 weeks, which is barely a missed period, and thats if you are regular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Thats messed up that pregnant people with complications cant get help. I thought they were allowed to do abortions if the mother's life is in danger?
    A woman with a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy sought emergency care at the University of Michigan Hospital after a doctor in her home state worried that the presence of a fetal heartbeat meant treating her might run afoul of new restrictions on abortion.

    At one Kansas City, Mo., hospital, administrators temporarily required ?pharmacist approval? before dispensing medications used to stop postpartum hemorrhages, because they can also be also used for abortions.

    And in Wisconsin, a woman bled for more than 10 days from an incomplete miscarriage after emergency room staff would not remove the fetal tissue amid a confusing legal landscape that has roiled obstetric care.

    In the three weeks of turmoil since the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to abortion, many physicians and patients have been navigating a new reality in which the standard of care for incomplete miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies and other common complications is being scrutinized, delayed ? even denied ? jeopardizing maternal health, according to the accounts of doctors in multiple states where new laws have gone into effect.

    While state abortion bans typically carve out exceptions when a woman?s life is endangered, the laws can be murky, prompting some obstetricians to consult lawyers and hospital ethics committees on decisions around routine care.

    Physicians face confusion and fear in post-Roe world

    ?People are running scared,? said Mae Winchester, a specialist in maternal-fetal medicine in Ohio who, days after the state?s new restrictions went into effect, sought legal advice before she performed an abortion on a pregnant woman with a uterine infection. ?There?s a lot of unknowns still left out there.?

    The need to intervene in a pregnancy with the same medication or surgical procedure used in elective abortions is not unusual.

    As many as 30 percent of pregnancies end in miscarriage, the spontaneous demise of a fetus, commonly because of chromosomal abnormalities. The methods of managing a miscarriage are the same as for abortion, using a combination of drugs ? mifepristone and misoprostol ? or a brief surgery known as dilation and curettage, or D&C, to dilate the cervix and scrape tissue from the uterus. Left untreated, some miscarriages resolve naturally; others lead to complications such as infection or profuse bleeding.

    ?It?s important for people to realize early pregnancy failure is common,? said Rashmi Kudesia, a fertility specialist in Houston.

    Doctors in Texas ? where since last September abortion has been illegal after the detection of fetal cardiac activity, around six weeks of pregnancy ? report that pharmacists have begun questioning patients about miscarriage medications, suspecting they may be used instead for abortions.

    ?It is traumatizing to stand in a pharmacy and have to tell them publicly that you are having a miscarriage, that there is not a heartbeat,? Kudesia said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...regnancy-care/
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    A woman with a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy sought emergency care at the University of Michigan Hospital after a doctor in her home state worried that the presence of a fetal heartbeat meant treating her might run afoul of new restrictions on abortion.

    At one Kansas City, Mo., hospital, administrators temporarily required ?pharmacist approval? before dispensing medications used to stop postpartum hemorrhages, because they can also be also used for abortions.

    And in Wisconsin, a woman bled for more than 10 days from an incomplete miscarriage after emergency room staff would not remove the fetal tissue amid a confusing legal landscape that has roiled obstetric care.

    In the three weeks of turmoil since the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to abortion, many physicians and patients have been navigating a new reality in which the standard of care for incomplete miscarriages, ectopic pregnancies and other common complications is being scrutinized, delayed ? even denied ? jeopardizing maternal health, according to the accounts of doctors in multiple states where new laws have gone into effect.

    While state abortion bans typically carve out exceptions when a woman?s life is endangered, the laws can be murky, prompting some obstetricians to consult lawyers and hospital ethics committees on decisions around routine care.

    Physicians face confusion and fear in post-Roe world

    ?People are running scared,? said Mae Winchester, a specialist in maternal-fetal medicine in Ohio who, days after the state?s new restrictions went into effect, sought legal advice before she performed an abortion on a pregnant woman with a uterine infection. ?There?s a lot of unknowns still left out there.?

    The need to intervene in a pregnancy with the same medication or surgical procedure used in elective abortions is not unusual.

    As many as 30 percent of pregnancies end in miscarriage, the spontaneous demise of a fetus, commonly because of chromosomal abnormalities. The methods of managing a miscarriage are the same as for abortion, using a combination of drugs ? mifepristone and misoprostol ? or a brief surgery known as dilation and curettage, or D&C, to dilate the cervix and scrape tissue from the uterus. Left untreated, some miscarriages resolve naturally; others lead to complications such as infection or profuse bleeding.

    ?It?s important for people to realize early pregnancy failure is common,? said Rashmi Kudesia, a fertility specialist in Houston.

    Doctors in Texas ? where since last September abortion has been illegal after the detection of fetal cardiac activity, around six weeks of pregnancy ? report that pharmacists have begun questioning patients about miscarriage medications, suspecting they may be used instead for abortions.

    ?It is traumatizing to stand in a pharmacy and have to tell them publicly that you are having a miscarriage, that there is not a heartbeat,? Kudesia said.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...regnancy-care/
    Thats so messed up. In those cases the pregnancy is NOT viable (ectopic) or there is NO heartbeat (miscarriage). Almost everyone I know has miscarried at some point. And the pharmacy asking questions thats none of their business? the fuck outta here.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/af...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    After Roe, Pregnant Women With Cancer Diagnoses May Face Wrenching Choices

    If the life of a fetus is paramount, a pregnancy can mean a woman cannot get effective treatment for her cancer. One in a thousand women who gets pregnant each year is diagnosed with cancer, meaning thousands of women are facing a serious and possibly fatal disease while they are expecting a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/af...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    After Roe, Pregnant Women With Cancer Diagnoses May Face Wrenching Choices
    So my cousin was pregnant and found out she had cancer. She got the masectomy and chemo but elected to not get radiation. She died 3 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    So my cousin was pregnant and found out she had cancer. She got the masectomy and chemo but elected to not get radiation. She died 3 years later.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    So my cousin was pregnant and found out she had cancer. She got the masectomy and chemo but elected to not get radiation. She died 3 years later.
    That is horrible, Angie. How old was she when she passed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    So my cousin was pregnant and found out she had cancer. She got the masectomy and chemo but elected to not get radiation. She died 3 years later.
    That is horrible, I'm so sorry.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    That is horrible, I'm so sorry.
    Thank you. I wonder if the outcome would have been different if she chose to do the radiation.

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    Not abortion, but I'm guessing they're going to find a way to say women don't have the right to EC soon too.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ption-87748335

    Minnesota case weighs right to emergency contraception
    Last edited by raisedbywolves; 11-11-2022 at 06:43 PM.

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    Next is our right to vote. If women aren't capable of making decisions for their own body, how the hell are we capable of making decisions for the country?

    Fuck outta here.

    And can we please fix the misspelling in the title? It's driving me crazy


    Quote Originally Posted by marakisses View Post
    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Next is our right to vote. If women aren't capable of making decisions for their own body, how the hell are we capable of making decisions for the country?

    Fuck outta here.

    And can we please fix the misspelling in the title? It's driving me crazy
    execuited restored. This ignorant action does not deserve the courtesy of correct spelling! In other words, it's been wrong from the start and is still wrong.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Why on earth would I smite you when I can ban you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    execuited restored. This ignorant action does not deserve the courtesy of correct spelling! In other words, it's been wrong from the start and is still wrong.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    I fucking hate people.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Not abortion, but I'm guessing they're going to find a way to say women don't have the right to EC soon too.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ption-87748335

    Minnesota case weighs right to emergency contraception
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-pill-88015632

    Minnesota jury: Woman wasn't entitled to morning-after pill

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    Dad and husband here.

    If you vote Republican anymore, you are a goddamn misogynistic asshole. No, I won't tolerate excuses about what they "really stand for", because fuck you, this is exactly what the party of R stands for.

    Censorship. Pro military. Anti citizen, particularly anti BLACK citizen. Anti Privacy. Anti Human Rights. Pro Christianity. Anti everygoddamnthingelse.

    But you pick out the parts you see as their platform, like fiscal responsibility, despite the fact that the only Presidents who have kept us in the black have been Democrats.

    The bullshit economy we are seeing right now, the joblessness, the low wages, these are all results of a pro business, anti worker system of economics, forwarded and made much worse by that assshole who bankrupted a fucking casino, and never paid his fucking bills.

    Ladies, nothing matters more than your ability to make decisions for yourselves, and that decision is being eroded and stripped away daily at the moment. Soon we may be back to having to have you get your husband to cosign your paycheck so that you can cash it. You laugh, but we live in the land of the dumbest motherfucking assholes on this entire rock.

    What? Walgreens won't fill your birth control? If it were up to me, you've read my posts.

    You don't want to sell me Durex? Get ready for the assreaming of your fucking life, motherfucker.

    IDK who the fuck forwarded the idea that your dumbass religious beliefs were as important as my right to freedom from them, but they need an asswhoopin' of Biblical proportion.

    Our congressman piece of shit was one of the OB/GYNs who helped deliver my oldest. He is a piece of human shit and voted along party lines to get rid of abortion access here in Texas.

    And anyone who disagrees with abortion, I will strongly remind you that:

    THE ONLY PERSON YOU GET TO MAKE REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS FOR IS THE ONE IN THE MIRROR.


    You've never had to care for the toddler child of a 12 year old mother, so you can take your anti abortion bullshit and stick it str8 up your fucking ass.

    You've never had a newborn die in your arms on his fourth day of life because his parents signed away their parental rights when they found out he had a devastating heart defect.

    You've never heard the wail of a mother who lost her baby to pertussis because that stupid bitch believed the misinformation about vaccines.

    You know absolutely jack shit. You just want your views enforced on everyone.

    You've never taken care of pregnant women so ill that the only thing keeping them alive are the fluids they are getting from a PICC line in their arm, feeding them for 16 hours a day because the growing child inside them is taking everything from them and causing them to vomit constantly.

    I have news for you: things are rarely ever black or white. I've known this for a long fucking time but I'll be goddamned if this isn't a brand fucking new concept to far too many.

    If you are fucking retarded enough to believe that abortion isn't healthcare, then you are almost too goddamn stupid to breathe. That's a hill I will die on.

    Not only the above, but:

    Abortion is no one else's goddamn business but the person who needs or wants it, and the physician who will be providing it for her. No one else. And I say that as the father of two adults. I don't have to be consulted just because I'm the sperm donor, hell no. Not my pregnancy, not my business.

    TBH i am absolutely disgusted to live in a time in this godforsaken shithole when our knowledge of the human condition is being overridden by society's belief in faerie tales and supernatural bullshit.

    Fuck humanity. If it weren't for those of us who do the right thing, this place would be an even bigger shithole than it is right now.

    And every single piece of shit conservative SC justice can kiss the darkest part of America's ass. As can that piece of shit Donald Trump and all of his cult followers. The Republican party denied Obama a pick and allowed conservative shitholes two anti common sense justices to be placed.

    Ladies, your rights to make decisions is one of the original tenets of being human. Now, this country has placed limits on those rights. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you need to burn this fucking country to the ground until you get what is owed you, back. Your right to bodily autonomy and the decisions to do what you wish.

    I'll be right there beside you to torch whatever needs to be lit, and I will support you in your fight until I draw my last breath.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    I can't rep you right now KV, but well said!

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...tion-rcna42185

    Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion
    Last edited by raisedbywolves; 11-11-2022 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...tion-rcna42185

    Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion
    I honestly don't know how I feel about this one. I mean, who chats personal things like that on FB?

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    On a personal level, this is so shitty, however the law is the law. We can't be all for FB releasing information to police to investigate murderers and then be upset when they turn over info for people getting abortions illegally.

    THIS IS WHY ABORTION SHOULDN'T BE ILLEGAL AT ALL.

    It's abortion rights not being protected that pisses me off. Not the fact that Facebook turned over DMs. We don't get to cherry pick which instances where it's okay and not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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