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    That is horrible, I'm so sorry.
    Thank you. I wonder if the outcome would have been different if she chose to do the radiation.

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    Not abortion, but I'm guessing they're going to find a way to say women don't have the right to EC soon too.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ption-87748335

    Minnesota case weighs right to emergency contraception

    A trial in Minnesota is expected to decide whether a woman's human rights were violated when a pharmacist denied her request in 2019 to fill a prescription for emergency contraception.

    Andrea Anderson, a mother of five from McGregor, sued under the Minnesota Human Rights Act after the pharmacist, based on his religious beliefs, refused to accommodate her request. State law prohibits discrimination based on sex, including issues related to pregnancy and childbirth.

    The trial in the civil case comes amid national political debate about contraception under federal law with the U.S. House last week passing a bill that would guarantee the right to contraception. Democrats pushed through the measure in response to concerns a conservative U.S. Supreme Court that already erased federal abortion rights could go further and limit the use of contraception.

    Jury selection in Aitkin County was scheduled to start Monday, with the case expected to conclude before the end of the week.

    Anderson brought her prescription for a morning-after pill to the Thrifty White pharmacy in McGregor in January 2019, the Star Tribune reported. Longtime pharmacist George Badeaux told her he could not fill the prescription based on his beliefs, but that a pharmacist working the following day could fill it if a snowstorm didn’t prevent the pharmacist from getting to work.

    Anderson eventually got her prescription filled at a pharmacy in Brainerd, making the round-trip of more than 100 miles (161 kilometers) in wintry driving conditions.

    Because the case is filed under the state's Human Rights Act, Aitkin County District Judge David Hermerding said Badeaux cannot raise federal constitutional issues such as freedom of religion at the trial.

    “The issue for the jury is not defendant’s constitutional rights,” the judge wrote. “It is whether he deliberately misled, obfuscated and blocked Ms. Anderson’s path to obtaining" emergency contraception.

    Badeaux will be allowed to explain his religious beliefs to the jury, the judge ruled, “but not in such a manner as to confuse the jury into thinking this is a religious freedom contest.”

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    Next is our right to vote. If women aren't capable of making decisions for their own body, how the hell are we capable of making decisions for the country?

    Fuck outta here.

    And can we please fix the misspelling in the title? It's driving me crazy


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Next is our right to vote. If women aren't capable of making decisions for their own body, how the hell are we capable of making decisions for the country?

    Fuck outta here.

    And can we please fix the misspelling in the title? It's driving me crazy
    execuited restored. This ignorant action does not deserve the courtesy of correct spelling! In other words, it's been wrong from the start and is still wrong.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Why on earth would I smite you when I can ban you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    execuited restored. This ignorant action does not deserve the courtesy of correct spelling! In other words, it's been wrong from the start and is still wrong.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Happy Birthday! I hid a dead body in your backyard to celebrate. Good luck finding it under the cement. You can only use a stick to look for it.

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...out&li=BBnb7Kz

    Republicans Begin Adjusting to a Fierce Abortion Backlash

    Republican candidates, facing a stark reality check from Kansas voters, are softening their once-uncompromising stands against abortion as they move toward the general election, recognizing that strict bans are unpopular and that the issue may be a major driver in the fall campaigns.

    In swing states and even conservative corners of the country, several Republicans have shifted their talk on abortion bans, newly emphasizing support for exceptions. Some have noticeably stopped discussing details at all. Pitched battles in Republican-dominated state legislatures have broken out now that the Supreme Court has made what has long been a theoretical argument a reality.

    In Pennsylvania, Doug Mastriano, the Republicans? ardently anti-abortion candidate for governor, has lately taken to saying ?the people of Pennsylvania? will ?decide what abortion looks like? in the state, not the governor. In Minnesota, Scott Jensen, a family physician who said in March that he would ?try to ban abortion? as governor, said in a video released before the Kansas vote that he does support some exceptions: ?If I?ve been unclear previously, I want to be clear now.?

    Republican consultants for Senate and House campaigns said Thursday that while they still believe inflation and the economy will drive voters to the G.O.P., candidates are going to have to talk about abortion to blunt Democratic attacks that the party?s position is extreme. They have started advising Republicans to endorse bans that allow exceptions for pregnancies from rape or incest or those that threaten the life of the mother. They have told candidates to emphasize care for women during and after their pregnancies. So you're saying that women and their health care are a just a tool for you to stay in office, and nothing else GOP?!

    ?If we are going to ban abortion, there are things we?ve got to do to make sure the need for abortion is reduced, and that women are not endangered,? said Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina, who won an exemption for rape and incest in her state?s abortion law as a state representative. Now, she says Republicans need to press to expand access to gynecological and obstetrics care, contraception, including emergency contraception, and even protect the right of women to leave their states to get an abortion without fear of prosecution.

    Messaging alone cannot free the G.O.P. from the drumbeat of news after the Supreme Court?s decision, including the story of a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to receive an abortion, and headlines about women who confronted serious health problems under new, far-reaching restrictions or bans.

    On Thursday, Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, who has recently avoided talking about abortion, suspended a state attorney from Hillsborough County who refused to prosecute people who try to provide abortions prohibited by the state?s new 15-week ban, prompting angry recriminations from Democrats.

    The recalibration for some began before voters of deeply Republican Kansas voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday against removing abortion rights from the state?s constitution. Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, retracting the constitutional right to the procedure, many Republicans were slow to detail what would come next. As they rush to enact long-promised laws, Republican-led legislatures have learned how difficult banning abortion can be.

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    I fucking hate people.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Not abortion, but I'm guessing they're going to find a way to say women don't have the right to EC soon too.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...ption-87748335

    Minnesota case weighs right to emergency contraception
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-pill-88015632

    Minnesota jury: Woman wasn't entitled to morning-after pill

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    Dad and husband here.

    If you vote Republican anymore, you are a goddamn misogynistic asshole. No, I won't tolerate excuses about what they "really stand for", because fuck you, this is exactly what the party of R stands for.

    Censorship. Pro military. Anti citizen, particularly anti BLACK citizen. Anti Privacy. Anti Human Rights. Pro Christianity. Anti everygoddamnthingelse.

    But you pick out the parts you see as their platform, like fiscal responsibility, despite the fact that the only Presidents who have kept us in the black have been Democrats.

    The bullshit economy we are seeing right now, the joblessness, the low wages, these are all results of a pro business, anti worker system of economics, forwarded and made much worse by that assshole who bankrupted a fucking casino, and never paid his fucking bills.

    Ladies, nothing matters more than your ability to make decisions for yourselves, and that decision is being eroded and stripped away daily at the moment. Soon we may be back to having to have you get your husband to cosign your paycheck so that you can cash it. You laugh, but we live in the land of the dumbest motherfucking assholes on this entire rock.

    What? Walgreens won't fill your birth control? If it were up to me, you've read my posts.

    You don't want to sell me Durex? Get ready for the assreaming of your fucking life, motherfucker.

    IDK who the fuck forwarded the idea that your dumbass religious beliefs were as important as my right to freedom from them, but they need an asswhoopin' of Biblical proportion.

    Our congressman piece of shit was one of the OB/GYNs who helped deliver my oldest. He is a piece of human shit and voted along party lines to get rid of abortion access here in Texas.

    And anyone who disagrees with abortion, I will strongly remind you that:

    THE ONLY PERSON YOU GET TO MAKE REPRODUCTIVE DECISIONS FOR IS THE ONE IN THE MIRROR.


    You've never had to care for the toddler child of a 12 year old mother, so you can take your anti abortion bullshit and stick it str8 up your fucking ass.

    You've never had a newborn die in your arms on his fourth day of life because his parents signed away their parental rights when they found out he had a devastating heart defect.

    You've never heard the wail of a mother who lost her baby to pertussis because that stupid bitch believed the misinformation about vaccines.

    You know absolutely jack shit. You just want your views enforced on everyone.

    You've never taken care of pregnant women so ill that the only thing keeping them alive are the fluids they are getting from a PICC line in their arm, feeding them for 16 hours a day because the growing child inside them is taking everything from them and causing them to vomit constantly.

    I have news for you: things are rarely ever black or white. I've known this for a long fucking time but I'll be goddamned if this isn't a brand fucking new concept to far too many.

    If you are fucking retarded enough to believe that abortion isn't healthcare, then you are almost too goddamn stupid to breathe. That's a hill I will die on.

    Not only the above, but:

    Abortion is no one else's goddamn business but the person who needs or wants it, and the physician who will be providing it for her. No one else. And I say that as the father of two adults. I don't have to be consulted just because I'm the sperm donor, hell no. Not my pregnancy, not my business.

    TBH i am absolutely disgusted to live in a time in this godforsaken shithole when our knowledge of the human condition is being overridden by society's belief in faerie tales and supernatural bullshit.

    Fuck humanity. If it weren't for those of us who do the right thing, this place would be an even bigger shithole than it is right now.

    And every single piece of shit conservative SC justice can kiss the darkest part of America's ass. As can that piece of shit Donald Trump and all of his cult followers. The Republican party denied Obama a pick and allowed conservative shitholes two anti common sense justices to be placed.

    Ladies, your rights to make decisions is one of the original tenets of being human. Now, this country has placed limits on those rights. I don't know who needs to hear this, but you need to burn this fucking country to the ground until you get what is owed you, back. Your right to bodily autonomy and the decisions to do what you wish.

    I'll be right there beside you to torch whatever needs to be lit, and I will support you in your fight until I draw my last breath.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Now go fuck yourself.

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    I can't rep you right now KV, but well said!

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...tion-rcna42185

    Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion

    Facebook turned over the chats of a mother and her daughter to Nebraska police after they were served with a warrant as part of an investigation into an illegal abortion, court documents show.

    The investigation, which was launched in April before the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, is one of the few known instances of Facebook’s turning over information to help law enforcement officials pursue an abortion case — but it is also an example of a scenario that abortion rights experts have warned will be more common as all abortions becomes illegal in many states.

    Madison County prosecutors say Jessica Burgess, 41, acquired and gave abortion pills to her daughter, Celeste, who was 17 at the time, and then helped her bury and then rebury the fetus. The Norfolk Daily News first reported the case. The two were charged last month and have pleaded not guilty. A lawyer for the two women didn’t respond to a request for comment.

    According to a sworn affidavit from Detective Ben McBride of the Norfolk Police Investigations Unit, police started with a tip from a woman who described herself as a friend of Celeste’s who said she saw her take the first pill in April.

    Under a Nebraska law enacted before Roe was overturned, abortion is illegal 20 weeks after an egg is fertilized. According to McBride’s affidavit, Burgess had a miscarriage when she was around 23 weeks pregnant, soon after having taken abortion pills.

    McBride then applied for and got a warrant in June for access into the digital lives of the mother and her daughter, seizing six smartphones and seven laptops and compelling Facebook to turn over chats between them.

    The alleged chats, published in court documents seen by NBC News, show a user named Jessica telling a user named Celeste about “What i ordered last month” and instructing her to take two pills 24 hours apart.

    Norfolk police didn’t respond to a request for comment.

    Facebook stores most user information in plaintext on its servers, meaning the company can access it if it is compelled to do so with a warrant. The company routinely complies with law enforcement requests.

    Facebook didn’t respond to a request for comment for this article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-ne...tion-rcna42185

    Facebook turned over chat messages between mother and daughter now charged over abortion
    I honestly don't know how I feel about this one. I mean, who chats personal things like that on FB?

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    On a personal level, this is so shitty, however the law is the law. We can't be all for FB releasing information to police to investigate murderers and then be upset when they turn over info for people getting abortions illegally.

    THIS IS WHY ABORTION SHOULDN'T BE ILLEGAL AT ALL.

    It's abortion rights not being protected that pisses me off. Not the fact that Facebook turned over DMs. We don't get to cherry pick which instances where it's okay and not.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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    What a shitty "friend"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    What a shitty "friend"
    Yeah. That was my thought. I wouldn't call this person friend for sure.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Yeah. That was my thought. I wouldn't call this person friend for sure.
    Yeah, same.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/20/polit...nvs/index.html

    These male politicians are pushing for women who receive abortions to be punished with prison time

    A businessman turned state representative from rural Oil City, Louisiana, and a Baptist pastor banded together earlier this year on a radical mission.

    They were adamant that a woman who receives an abortion should receive the same criminal consequences as one who drowns her baby.

    Under a bill they promoted, pregnant people could face murder charges even if they were raped or doctors determined the procedure was needed to save their own life. Doctors who attempted to help patients conceive through in-vitro fertilization, a fertility treatment used by millions of Americans, could also be locked up for destroying embryos, and certain contraception such as Plan B would be banned.

    ?The taking of a life is murder, and it is illegal,? state Rep. Danny McCormick told a committee of state lawmakers who considered the bill in May, right after the Supreme Court?s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade was leaked.

    ?No compromises, no more waiting,? Brian Gunter, the pastor who suggested McCormick be the one to introduce the legislation, told the committee.

    Only four people spoke against the bill during the committee meeting? all women. They pleaded with the lawmakers to grasp the gravity of the proposed restrictions, which went farther than any state abortion law currently on the books, and warned of unintended consequences.

    ?We need to take a deep breath,? said Melissa Flournoy, a former state representative who runs the progressive advocacy group 10,000 Women Louisiana. She said the bill would only punish women and that there wasn?t enough responsibility being placed on men.

    But in the end, only one man and one woman, an Independent and a Democrat, voted against it in committee. Seven men on the committee, all Republicans, voted in favor of the bill, moving it one step closer to becoming law.

    Men at the helm

    A faction of self-proclaimed ?abolitionists? are seeking to make abortion laws more restrictive and the consequences of having the procedure more punitive than ever before.

    Emboldened by the overturning of Roe v. Wade, they say they will not be satisfied until fetuses are given the same protections as all US citizens ? meaning that if abortion is illegal, then criminal statutes should be applied accordingly. While major national anti-abortion groups say they do not support criminalizing women, the idea is gaining traction with certain conservative lawmakers. And the activists and politicians leading the charge are nearly always men, CNN found.

    This year, three male lawmakers from Indiana attempted to wipe out existing abortion regulations and change the state?s criminal statutes to apply at the time of fertilization. In Texas, five male lawmakers authored a bill last year that would have made getting an abortion punishable by the death penalty if it had gone into law. A state representative in Arizona introduced legislation that included homicide charges ? saying in a Facebook video that anyone who undergoes an abortion deserves to ?spend some time? in the Arizona ?penal system.? And a male Kansas lawmaker proposed a bill that would amend the state?s constitution to allow abortion laws to pass without an exception for the life of the mother.

    While most in the anti-abortion movement believe that human life begins at conception, ?abolitionists? are particularly uncompromising in how they act on their beliefs ? comparing abortion to the Holocaust and using inflammatory terms such as ?slaughter? and ?murder? to describe a medical procedure that most Americans believe should be legal in all or most cases.

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    W.T.F. This is just so insane.


    Quote Originally Posted by marakisses View Post
    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    I have no words. If a woman could die from having a child, they still want the child born. But I highly doubt the fetus with live with the mom dead.

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    Further proof that women have no rights. Zero. Zilch. Nada. We're being killed by Republican Men. The "Prolife" crowd are claiming that they aren't on board with this new development? WELL, FUCK YOU. YOU'RE THE ONES THAT OPENED THAT DOOR FOR IT AND YOU'RE TO BLAME.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    That is too pretty to be shoved up an ass.

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