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    Texas abortion law SB8 and the attack on Roe v. Wade

    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...at/5699031001/

    GOP legislative leaders 'already working' on Texas-style abortion restrictions in Florida
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    This is awful, way to set us back.

    I saw on FB DL Hughley (who I follow) posted something great:

    "You won't force a 15 year old to wear a mask at school but you'll force her to be a mother? Fuck you Texas"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    This is awful, way to set us back.

    I saw on FB DL Hughley (who I follow) posted something great:

    "You won't force a 15 year old to wear a mask at school but you'll force her to be a mother? Fuck you Texas"
    Exactly.

    I am really glad that I cannot physically conceive anymore.

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    Noem Reviewing Abortion Laws Following Upheld Texas Law
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
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    Noem Reviewing Abortion Laws Following Upheld Texas Law
    I look for all the GOP led states to run as fast as they can to follow Texas. This is what they have been waiting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I look for all the GOP led states to run as fast as they can to follow Texas. This is what they have been waiting for.
    Not only that, but the Supreme Court didn't move to block this. They sided with Texas and they're due to review Roe v Wade soon. This could be nationwide before we know it.

    The hubby and I have decided to speed up the moving process. We're trying to sell the business for rock bottom now and if we can't get it for that then we're just selling the client list and getting out if here. He's over it and so am I. I have an appointment for my passport next Tuesday and we're clearing out junk and selling stuff as we speak. By this time next year we'll likely be in Ireland. The only thing that breaks my heart is leaving my Mom behind. I've researched ways of trying to take her with us, but there aren't any. Unless hubby has an old relative that is willing to marry her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Not only that, but the Supreme Court didn't move to block this. They sided with Texas and they're due to review Roe v Wade soon. This could be nationwide before we know it.

    The hubby and I have decided to speed up the moving process. We're trying to sell the business for rock bottom now and if we can't get it for that then we're just selling the client list and getting out if here. He's over it and so am I. I have an appointment for my passport next Tuesday and we're clearing out junk and selling stuff as we speak. By this time next year we'll likely be in Ireland. The only thing that breaks my heart is leaving my Mom behind. I've researched ways of trying to take her with us, but there aren't any. Unless hubby has an old relative that is willing to marry her.
    Whoa, that's quite a move! I'm happy for you...I think? lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Whoa, that's quite a move! I'm happy for you...I think? lol.
    We've always planned on it, just wanted to sell the business for what it was worth first. Well, Covid fucked that up. We'll be lucky to get what we paid for it 13 years ago now and likely will have to sell just the client list which is a fraction. Hubby isn't a US citizen. He's a green card holder and in order for me to get Irish Citizenship I have to live there for at least five years.

    It's going to be very different for me and I'm sure it won't be easy, but I'd rather be there than here at this point. Having an EU passport is worth it's weight in gold. I can basically live and work anywhere in the EU with one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    We've always planned on it, just wanted to sell the business for what it was worth first. Well, Covid fucked that up. We'll be lucky to get what we paid for it 13 years ago now and likely will have to sell just the client list which is a fraction. Hubby isn't a US citizen. He's a green card holder and in order for me to get Irish Citizenship I have to live there for at least five years.

    It's going to be very different for me and I'm sure it won't be easy, but I'd rather be there than here at this point. Having an EU passport is worth it's weight in gold. I can basically live and work anywhere in the EU with one.
    We'll be sorry to lose you here, but I totally understand. Back in the day going to England with hubby's citizenship was always our backup plan. We lived there briefly in the early 90's and decided America was a better plan since we were just starting out, but always had the free healthcare and safety net of England as a possible option. Now England is as bad as we are, so forget that.

    I hope it all works out and you can sell your business for what you want and move on YOUR timeline!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    We'll be sorry to lose you here, but I totally understand. Back in the day going to England with hubby's citizenship was always our backup plan. We lived there briefly in the early 90's and decided America was a better plan since we were just starting out, but always had the free healthcare and safety net of England as a possible option. Now England is as bad as we are, so forget that.

    I hope it all works out and you can sell your business for what you want and move on YOUR timeline!
    Wait, you can't get on MDS in Ireland?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Wait, you can't get on MDS in Ireland?


    I just meant here in the US. We need all the intelligent, non Trumpy people we can get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post


    I just meant here in the US. We need all the intelligent, non Trumpy people we can get here.
    Okay, I was like...wait, what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Okay, I was like...wait, what?
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    Texas abortion law SB8 and the attack on Roe v. Wade

    I truly thought we had a dedicated abortion thread, but I have looked and looked and cannot find it. I think this is worthy of it's own thread. I am going to move the posts we have made in other threads over to this one. This really makes me miss Ann Richards.

    Last edited by raisedbywolves; 09-05-2021 at 03:57 PM.

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    What is it with Texas and hating on women's rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    What is it with Texas and hating on women's rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Truth

    Im a dumby when it comes to anything law related. Can law SB8 be overturned?

    If I had the money I would travel and go and protest with the rest of the women warriors out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Truth

    Im a dumby when it comes to anything law related. Can law SB8 be overturned?

    If I had the money I would travel and go and protest with the rest of the women warriors out there.
    Laws can always be overturned if you get the right people in power, case in point with RvW. The GOP though has gerrymandered and is passing laws to make it harder to vote, in an attempt to block the people they see as voting for Democrats. So in theory, unless Biden adds more justices to the Supreme Court it looks like the law is here to stay because the Supreme Court already upheld it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Truth

    Im a dumby when it comes to anything law related. Can law SB8 be overturned?

    If I had the money I would travel and go and protest with the rest of the women warriors out there.
    Sure it can. There are many ways that it be derailed. But. By allowing it to go into effect 100s of people will be harmed. And of course there's always the chance that it won't be. These may help explain...
    https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...ion-law-2021-9

    https://www.vox.com/2021/8/31/226503...de-greg-abbott
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Laws can always be overturned if you get the right people in power, case in point with RvW. The GOP though has gerrymandered and is passing laws to make it harder to vote, in an attempt to block the people they see as voting for Democrats. So in theory, unless Biden adds more justices to the Supreme Court it looks like the law is here to stay because the Supreme Court already upheld it.
    Not quite correct. They didn't uphold it. They "just" didn't stop it. The law will still get many days in court and it may well fall, but the case will have to be brought by someone(s) who are actually harmed by it. Meanwhile, God only knows what damage will be done.

    On the other hand, pro-choice peeps are fired up and maybe we'll manage to get better protections passed.

    I'm sick about this, don't get me wrong, but even after everything that's gone on I still have hope that sanity will prevail. If you read the links I posted on Ange's post, you'll see the arguments that if this is allowed to stand it opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.
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    I wonder how Sarah Weddington feels about this?!
    Sarah was an attorney for Roe during the trial.
    I met her at my college when I was a freshman or sophomore.
    I want to move to Japan, BB.
    I hate this country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Not quite correct. They didn't uphold it. They "just" didn't stop it. The law will still get many days in court and it may well fall, but the case will have to be brought by someone(s) who are actually harmed by it. Meanwhile, God only knows what damage will be done.

    On the other hand, pro-choice peeps are fired up and maybe we'll manage to get better protections passed.

    I'm sick about this, don't get me wrong, but even after everything that's gone on I still have hope that sanity will prevail. If you read the links I posted on Ange's post, you'll see the arguments that if this is allowed to stand it opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.
    Exactly. Like suing the local government for aiding and abetting because they run public transportation. Suing private companies because the salary they paid to a women that got an abortion is aiding and abetting. It's fucking ridiculous that the supreme court didn't stop this KNOWING how ridiculous this law was in addition to it being unconstitutional. This is why I'm nervous about them revisited Roe v Wade. Because if they were eager enough to restrict abortions with this assanine law then there is little hope when it comes to anything else. This should have been a slam dunk "DISSENT" regardless of how conservative you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Not quite correct. They didn't uphold it. They "just" didn't stop it. The law will still get many days in court and it may well fall, but the case will have to be brought by someone(s) who are actually harmed by it. Meanwhile, God only knows what damage will be done.

    On the other hand, pro-choice peeps are fired up and maybe we'll manage to get better protections passed.

    I'm sick about this, don't get me wrong, but even after everything that's gone on I still have hope that sanity will prevail. If you read the links I posted on Ange's post, you'll see the arguments that if this is allowed to stand it opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.
    From what I understand they issued a stay on the law, allowing it to continue for now until they see what happens with it. This law was dreamed up by a religious guy on the border of Louisiana. Then he started getting it into towns/cities. My old town of Lubbock became a sanctuary city by adopting it. PP was forced to shut down because of it. Then they moved to the state-wide scale with it, and it will essentially do the same thing it did in Lubbock on the state level.

    It definitely opens up the door to all sorts of shenanigans, that's been my point from the start that this is ridiculous and potentially all consuming, but they shouldn't have allowed it to stand due to constitutionality and this issue with all kinds of people/corporations/etc getting sucked in...but they did.

    I am less optimistic about getting better protections passed. They have managed to connive and scheme to get their un-just justices in, and this was their goal. I am really thoroughly disgusted with all the people that couldn't be bothered to vote for Hillary because that is why we are here. I hope they realize what they have done.

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    I can't copy and past it, but this is worth reading.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...em-ncna1278534

    From abortion to climate change, the 'alarmists' were right. Now stop calling them alarmists.

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