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    Texas abortion law SB8 and the attack on Roe v. Wade

    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/...at/5699031001/

    GOP legislative leaders 'already working' on Texas-style abortion restrictions in Florida

    Republican leaders in the Florida Legislature said a late Wednesday U.S. Supreme Court ruling to uphold a Texas "fetal heartbeat" law is a green light to pursue tighter abortion restrictions when lawmakers meet in 2022.

    Senate President Wilton Simpson, R-Trilby, triggered an uproar among pro-choice advocates Thursday when he told a Tampa radio station the Legislature is “already working on” a bill similar to the Texas measure.

    That led some of the Legislature's Democrats to voice their fears that the nation's highest court gave GOP leadership the opening to roll back abortion rights in the Sunshine State, saying it's something Republicans have wanted to do "for decades."
    Senate President Wilton Simpson, seen here in a file photo, said lawmakers are already working on a Texas-style fetal heartbeat bill for the 2022 session.

    The bill Texas Gov. Gregg Abbott signed in May bans abortions once a fetal heartbeat is detected. It bans abortion as early as six weeks and incentivizes residents to file suit against providers who violate its provisions. It went into effect Wednesday.

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    This is awful, way to set us back.

    I saw on FB DL Hughley (who I follow) posted something great:

    "You won't force a 15 year old to wear a mask at school but you'll force her to be a mother? Fuck you Texas"


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    This is awful, way to set us back.

    I saw on FB DL Hughley (who I follow) posted something great:

    "You won't force a 15 year old to wear a mask at school but you'll force her to be a mother? Fuck you Texas"
    Exactly.

    I am really glad that I cannot physically conceive anymore.

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    https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/news-and-information/post/
    Noem Reviewing Abortion Laws Following Upheld Texas Law
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
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    Noem Reviewing Abortion Laws Following Upheld Texas Law
    I look for all the GOP led states to run as fast as they can to follow Texas. This is what they have been waiting for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I look for all the GOP led states to run as fast as they can to follow Texas. This is what they have been waiting for.
    Not only that, but the Supreme Court didn't move to block this. They sided with Texas and they're due to review Roe v Wade soon. This could be nationwide before we know it.

    The hubby and I have decided to speed up the moving process. We're trying to sell the business for rock bottom now and if we can't get it for that then we're just selling the client list and getting out if here. He's over it and so am I. I have an appointment for my passport next Tuesday and we're clearing out junk and selling stuff as we speak. By this time next year we'll likely be in Ireland. The only thing that breaks my heart is leaving my Mom behind. I've researched ways of trying to take her with us, but there aren't any. Unless hubby has an old relative that is willing to marry her.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    Not only that, but the Supreme Court didn't move to block this. They sided with Texas and they're due to review Roe v Wade soon. This could be nationwide before we know it.

    The hubby and I have decided to speed up the moving process. We're trying to sell the business for rock bottom now and if we can't get it for that then we're just selling the client list and getting out if here. He's over it and so am I. I have an appointment for my passport next Tuesday and we're clearing out junk and selling stuff as we speak. By this time next year we'll likely be in Ireland. The only thing that breaks my heart is leaving my Mom behind. I've researched ways of trying to take her with us, but there aren't any. Unless hubby has an old relative that is willing to marry her.
    Whoa, that's quite a move! I'm happy for you...I think? lol.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Whoa, that's quite a move! I'm happy for you...I think? lol.
    We've always planned on it, just wanted to sell the business for what it was worth first. Well, Covid fucked that up. We'll be lucky to get what we paid for it 13 years ago now and likely will have to sell just the client list which is a fraction. Hubby isn't a US citizen. He's a green card holder and in order for me to get Irish Citizenship I have to live there for at least five years.

    It's going to be very different for me and I'm sure it won't be easy, but I'd rather be there than here at this point. Having an EU passport is worth it's weight in gold. I can basically live and work anywhere in the EU with one.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    We've always planned on it, just wanted to sell the business for what it was worth first. Well, Covid fucked that up. We'll be lucky to get what we paid for it 13 years ago now and likely will have to sell just the client list which is a fraction. Hubby isn't a US citizen. He's a green card holder and in order for me to get Irish Citizenship I have to live there for at least five years.

    It's going to be very different for me and I'm sure it won't be easy, but I'd rather be there than here at this point. Having an EU passport is worth it's weight in gold. I can basically live and work anywhere in the EU with one.
    We'll be sorry to lose you here, but I totally understand. Back in the day going to England with hubby's citizenship was always our backup plan. We lived there briefly in the early 90's and decided America was a better plan since we were just starting out, but always had the free healthcare and safety net of England as a possible option. Now England is as bad as we are, so forget that.

    I hope it all works out and you can sell your business for what you want and move on YOUR timeline!

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    We'll be sorry to lose you here, but I totally understand. Back in the day going to England with hubby's citizenship was always our backup plan. We lived there briefly in the early 90's and decided America was a better plan since we were just starting out, but always had the free healthcare and safety net of England as a possible option. Now England is as bad as we are, so forget that.

    I hope it all works out and you can sell your business for what you want and move on YOUR timeline!
    Wait, you can't get on MDS in Ireland?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Wait, you can't get on MDS in Ireland?


    I just meant here in the US. We need all the intelligent, non Trumpy people we can get here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post


    I just meant here in the US. We need all the intelligent, non Trumpy people we can get here.
    Okay, I was like...wait, what?


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    Okay, I was like...wait, what?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Texas abortion law SB8 and the attack on Roe v. Wade

    I truly thought we had a dedicated abortion thread, but I have looked and looked and cannot find it. I think this is worthy of it's own thread. I am going to move the posts we have made in other threads over to this one. This really makes me miss Ann Richards.

    Last edited by raisedbywolves; 09-05-2021 at 03:57 PM.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/05/polit...ntv/index.html

    Klobuchar calls for eliminating Senate filibuster to protect abortion rights

    Democratic Sen. Amy Klobuchar called for immediate action from Democrats in the wake of the US Supreme Court allowing Texas' restrictive abortion law to stand and said the filibuster should be abolished in order to codify abortion rights protections.
    "Now and over the next years, we just will get nowhere if we keep this filibuster in place," the Minnesota Democrat, who has previously come out against ending the filibuster to address issues like voting rights and climate change, told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" Sunday.

    "I do not believe an archaic rule should be used to allow us to put our heads in the sand -- to use Justice (Sonia) Sotomayor's words -- to put our heads in the sand and not take action on the important issues," Klobuchar said, calling the Texas law and the Supreme Court's response "an assault on women's health."

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said last week the chamber would take legislative action when the House returns from recess and "bring up Congresswoman Judy Chu's Women's Health Protection Act to enshrine into law reproductive health care for all women across America." But even if a bill on the issue were to pass in the House it is likely to face hurdles in the Senate where Democrats hold a narrow majority and 60 votes are required to break the filibuster. There is no indication 10 Republican senators would side with them on the issue.



    If Roe v. Wade were overturned, 22 states have laws to restrict abortion access.

    Fourteen states plus DC have laws that protect abortion access without Roe v. Wade.


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    What is it with Texas and hating on women's rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    What is it with Texas and hating on women's rights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Truth

    Im a dumby when it comes to anything law related. Can law SB8 be overturned?

    If I had the money I would travel and go and protest with the rest of the women warriors out there.

    "The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Truth

    Im a dumby when it comes to anything law related. Can law SB8 be overturned?

    If I had the money I would travel and go and protest with the rest of the women warriors out there.
    Laws can always be overturned if you get the right people in power, case in point with RvW. The GOP though has gerrymandered and is passing laws to make it harder to vote, in an attempt to block the people they see as voting for Democrats. So in theory, unless Biden adds more justices to the Supreme Court it looks like the law is here to stay because the Supreme Court already upheld it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Truth

    Im a dumby when it comes to anything law related. Can law SB8 be overturned?

    If I had the money I would travel and go and protest with the rest of the women warriors out there.
    Sure it can. There are many ways that it be derailed. But. By allowing it to go into effect 100s of people will be harmed. And of course there's always the chance that it won't be. These may help explain...
    https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-...ion-law-2021-9

    https://www.vox.com/2021/8/31/226503...de-greg-abbott
    Last edited by puzzld; 09-05-2021 at 05:12 PM.
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    lol at Nestle being some vicious smiter, she's the nicest person on this site besides probably puzzld. Or at least the last person to resort to smiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    Laws can always be overturned if you get the right people in power, case in point with RvW. The GOP though has gerrymandered and is passing laws to make it harder to vote, in an attempt to block the people they see as voting for Democrats. So in theory, unless Biden adds more justices to the Supreme Court it looks like the law is here to stay because the Supreme Court already upheld it.
    Not quite correct. They didn't uphold it. They "just" didn't stop it. The law will still get many days in court and it may well fall, but the case will have to be brought by someone(s) who are actually harmed by it. Meanwhile, God only knows what damage will be done.

    On the other hand, pro-choice peeps are fired up and maybe we'll manage to get better protections passed.

    I'm sick about this, don't get me wrong, but even after everything that's gone on I still have hope that sanity will prevail. If you read the links I posted on Ange's post, you'll see the arguments that if this is allowed to stand it opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.
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    I wonder how Sarah Weddington feels about this?!
    Sarah was an attorney for Roe during the trial.
    I met her at my college when I was a freshman or sophomore.
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    "he had Skittles so he could have made drugs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Not quite correct. They didn't uphold it. They "just" didn't stop it. The law will still get many days in court and it may well fall, but the case will have to be brought by someone(s) who are actually harmed by it. Meanwhile, God only knows what damage will be done.

    On the other hand, pro-choice peeps are fired up and maybe we'll manage to get better protections passed.

    I'm sick about this, don't get me wrong, but even after everything that's gone on I still have hope that sanity will prevail. If you read the links I posted on Ange's post, you'll see the arguments that if this is allowed to stand it opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.
    Exactly. Like suing the local government for aiding and abetting because they run public transportation. Suing private companies because the salary they paid to a women that got an abortion is aiding and abetting. It's fucking ridiculous that the supreme court didn't stop this KNOWING how ridiculous this law was in addition to it being unconstitutional. This is why I'm nervous about them revisited Roe v Wade. Because if they were eager enough to restrict abortions with this assanine law then there is little hope when it comes to anything else. This should have been a slam dunk "DISSENT" regardless of how conservative you are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Not quite correct. They didn't uphold it. They "just" didn't stop it. The law will still get many days in court and it may well fall, but the case will have to be brought by someone(s) who are actually harmed by it. Meanwhile, God only knows what damage will be done.

    On the other hand, pro-choice peeps are fired up and maybe we'll manage to get better protections passed.

    I'm sick about this, don't get me wrong, but even after everything that's gone on I still have hope that sanity will prevail. If you read the links I posted on Ange's post, you'll see the arguments that if this is allowed to stand it opens the door to all sorts of shenanigans.
    From what I understand they issued a stay on the law, allowing it to continue for now until they see what happens with it. This law was dreamed up by a religious guy on the border of Louisiana. Then he started getting it into towns/cities. My old town of Lubbock became a sanctuary city by adopting it. PP was forced to shut down because of it. Then they moved to the state-wide scale with it, and it will essentially do the same thing it did in Lubbock on the state level.

    It definitely opens up the door to all sorts of shenanigans, that's been my point from the start that this is ridiculous and potentially all consuming, but they shouldn't have allowed it to stand due to constitutionality and this issue with all kinds of people/corporations/etc getting sucked in...but they did.

    I am less optimistic about getting better protections passed. They have managed to connive and scheme to get their un-just justices in, and this was their goal. I am really thoroughly disgusted with all the people that couldn't be bothered to vote for Hillary because that is why we are here. I hope they realize what they have done.

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