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    Uggh. That sux & unfortunately it's something we're going to see a lot more often as temps continue to rise
    - & it'll be in homes, suburbs & cities, not just people who go on hot weather hikes

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    Heat and dehydration are the very first things looked at in hiker deaths. How did they immediately go to carbon monoxide, algae, lightning....but pass over that? I just assumed they had somehow been able to rule that out since they jumped to these other theories right away.

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    I said it was hot but got shut down. Still seems odd and I don't understand why you'd hike on such a hot day and take your baby, too

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    Or is it like, "We can't figure it out so we'll just say heat-related"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Or is it like, "We can't figure it out so we'll just say heat-related"?
    That's kind of my guess. We eliminated everything we could imagine, so heat it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Or is it like, "We can't figure it out so we'll just say heat-related"?
    Yeah, I'm almost 100% positive that this is the case. The family wanted answers, the public wanted answers WE WANTED ANSWERS and so they gave the simplest answer they could give to close the case and make everyone happy.

    Heat Stroke was the first thing we discussed and we all came to the conclusion that it was strange that even though the baby and the dog could have succumbed later on, that it was strange to have both adults keel over at the same time. The theory that she went for help when he showed signs was brought up, but this article says that she was found further UP the hill. If she were going for help, wouldn't she be heading down off of whatever they were hiking to? The dog could be super loyal and worried about the baby, but wouldn't he seek out water as an instinct? The article also says that they HAD water with them and that it was tested and fine along with the formula for the baby. I'm side eyeing their conclusion.
    It just strikes me as the easy way out. Also this.....

    "This is the first hyperthermia cause of death that I've witnessed here in 20 years."


    This still doesn't make sense to me with how they were found, with what they were found with and with nobody else in the area experiencing the same fate. It wasn't really THAT HOT that weekend. And like RBW mentioned, they didn't see any of this earlier? It feels like they explored every COD they could and just landed on the easiest one to claim without having to be questioned.
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    Okay, so I looked up the weather and it was indeed hot, but still. I would think they would have known this was the cause and it doesn't explain the rest with her being ahead and them with plenty of water etc. I don't know. Maybe it was just that simple. If so, I don't understand why they didn't stop with the first signs of trouble with themselves. Especially with a baby.

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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    Is the trail surrounded by or on solid rock? I know some of our arid region Nat Parks have warnings because it can get substantially hotter than the forecast air temps on walking trails that go through huge rock formations.

    They absorb so much heat they're still warm to touch late at night. So if you're kms into a walk that goes on & through huge rock platforms/canyons, there's no escaping the heat until you get away from the rock

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    I watched the live and the cop said they had no water left. I do think it's odd they all seemed to die about the same time...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nic B View Post
    I watched the live and the cop said they had no water left. I do think it's odd they all seemed to die about the same time...
    Yeah...I think its odd too. Especially with the guy's body in the sitting position.

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    Yes, the sitting position. The whole thing seems fishy

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    Especially since the two of them were experienced hikers, not newbies.

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    Just really bizarre.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
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    More info: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...203117284.html

    At 11 p.m. — 12 hours after the babysitter came upon the empty house — the pair called the sheriff, and a search was initiated.

    The family's car was found at the trailhead on the morning of Aug. 17. The Chronicle reports that the bodies of Gerrish, Miju, and Oski were located roughly 1.6 miles below "on a series of steep switchbacks of the Savage Lundy Trail."

    Chung was found about an hour later at 10:30 a.m. after a deputy noticed "some disturbed dirt on the uphill side of the trail that appeared that something or someone had tried to go up the hill," per the report. The woman was found about 13 ft. higher than her family.

    Investigators found various items in Chung's backpack such as a snakebite kit, a knife, bug spray, first aid kit, extra diapers, two empty sippy cups — one of which appeared to have the remnants of formula inside — and a teething wafer wrapper, The Chronicle reports.

    The woman also had a 2.5-liter Osprey Hydraulics LT water bladder in her possession, which detectives said had only a "few remaining drops" of water left inside. No toxins were found in the water. A Ford key fob was also found about 100 ft. below where Gerrish was found.

    Rescuers did not find evidence of foul play, per the report.

    Investigators are still attempting to access a Google Pixel 4 cell phone found in the front pocket of Gerrish's shorts. Phones obtained by deputies through a search warrant on the couple's home on Aug. 17 had missed messages from the days prior.

    One U.S. Forest Service volunteer told a deputy the family appeared "completely unaware of the dangers" they faced, according to The Chronicle. That individual is said to have hiked the trail more than a dozen times.

    Another volunteer said he would often wait at the bottom of the trail until sunset in order to finish the hike in the shade. A Forest Service employee familiar with the trail also told investigators that locals typically "stay clear" of it in the summer, per the report.

    One expert interviewed by detectives suggested the family had overheated, which caused their brains and organs to shut down. A Modesto doctor who works with extreme heat victims told investigators that individuals can die within a couple of hours of having a heatstroke.

    Additionally, the family's dog — an Aussie-Akita mix — was not bred for such warm conditions. Both breeds typically sport thick fur coats.

    In October, Sheriff Briese told reporters, "This is the first hyperthermia cause of death that I've witnessed here in 20 years."


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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Is the trail surrounded by or on solid rock? I know some of our arid region Nat Parks have warnings because it can get substantially hotter than the forecast air temps on walking trails that go through huge rock formations.

    They absorb so much heat they're still warm to touch late at night. So if you're kms into a walk that goes on & through huge rock platforms/canyons, there's no escaping the heat until you get away from the rock
    Excellent theory. I previously looked up the area they were found in, but I don't really remember (and I'm just too lazy to look again), but THAT makes perfect sense to me now. It would be like they were walking through an oven so it would kind of make sense that they all died pretty much the same time. So, so sad.
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ound-rcna16805

    'Can you help us': Desperate text, calls didn't go through before California family was found dead on hike

    A California family who died from heat and dehydration during a hike in a remote area of the Sierra National Forest desperately tried to call for help but their calls did not go through because of poor cellular service, authorities said.
    On Thursday, the sheriff's office released further details into the death investigation and said data from Gerrish's cellphone showed that the hike began around 7:44 a.m.
    The family took multiple selfies and scenery photos as they hiked, the sheriff's office said in a Facebook post.

    Just before noon, Gerrish attempted to text someone for help but the message never went through. According to authorities, the message read: “can you help us. On savage lundy trail heading back to Hites cove trail. No water or ver (over) heating with baby.”

    Authorities did name the person Gerrish tried to text. The family also tried to make five phone calls to various numbers but the calls never connected.

    The first call was at 12:09 and the last call was made at 12:36 p.m., authorities said.

    The sheriff's office said the phone details support their findings that the family died from a heat-related incident. Relatives for Gerrish and Chung could not immediately be reached on Friday.

    "The cell phone data results were the last thing both the family and detectives were waiting on. The extracted information confirms our initial findings. I am very proud of my team and our partner agencies for all the work they put in," Sheriff Jeremy Briese said in a statement. "Their dedication has allowed us to close this case and answer lingering questions the family had, bringing them a little peace."

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    How terribly sad.

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    This should be a lesson to folks. Poor planning with not enough water and bringing an infant along for the ride on top of that. It said they brought water with them and it only lasted a couple of hours. The heat must have been much higher where they were than what was reported. I can't see them doing things like rock climbing or overexerting themselves with a baby with them.

    Honestly, I don't understand people who insist on still hiking during high temps. If you absolutely CAN'T live without it, at least travel to higher elevations to do it and certainly don't take a baby or dog with you. They didn't willingly sign up for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    This should be a lesson to folks. Poor planning with not enough water and bringing an infant along for the ride on top of that. It said they brought water with them and it only lasted a couple of hours. The heat must have been much higher where they were than what was reported. I can't see them doing things like rock climbing or overexerting themselves with a baby with them.

    Honestly, I don't understand people who insist on still hiking during high temps. If you absolutely CAN'T live without it, at least travel to higher elevations to do it and certainly don't take a baby or dog with you. They didn't willingly sign up for that.
    Very well said.

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    I don't understand why the police didn't release the facts about the text messages at the very beginning instead of having us all theorize on everything from poisonous vapors to an alien attack. What was the big secret?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimTisha View Post
    I don't understand why the police didn't release the facts about the text messages at the very beginning instead of having us all theorize on everything from poisonous vapors to an alien attack. What was the big secret?
    I got the impression that they had some trouble getting the information out of the phones, or maybe the cell phone co.? But yeah it seems strange that it took so long.

    "The cell phone data results were the last thing both the family and detectives were waiting on.
    I wish more people understood that when you go into the wild, you may end up on your own with no backup. That cell phone is of no use in a lot of places.
    Every year it seems like we see people who find themselves in a bad situation in the hills or the Badlands. Then they are shocked when help is nowhere to be found. A guy fell and broke himself on a hike last summer and it took his friends having to hike for several miles to get a signal... help was hard to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    I got the impression that they had some trouble getting the information out of the phones, or maybe the cell phone co.? But yeah it seems strange that it took so long.



    I wish more people understood that when you go into the wild, you may end up on your own with no backup. That cell phone is of no use in a lot of places.
    Every year it seems like we see people who find themselves in a bad situation in the hills or the Badlands. Then they are shocked when help is nowhere to be found. A guy fell and broke himself on a hike last summer and it took his friends having to hike for several miles to get a signal... help was hard to find.

    We carry one of these when we are out in the wild (jetskiing, hiking, kayaking) and my husband takes one with him (at my insistence after MH370) when he flies.

    https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-adv...r-beacons.html

    We paid several hundred dollars for our about 6 years ago but I think they are substantially cheaper nowadays. You have to register them with the government so they know who they are looking for if the beacon goes off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    We carry one of these when we are out in the wild (jetskiing, hiking, kayaking) and my husband takes one with him (at my insistence after MH370) when he flies.

    https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-adv...r-beacons.html

    We paid several hundred dollars for our about 6 years ago but I think they are substantially cheaper nowadays. You have to register them with the government so they know who they are looking for if the beacon goes off.
    Good info to have!
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    Do they have any devices that hikers can use to call for help in terrain that may not get cellphone signal? I'm glad to finally know what happened.

    I won't judge this family. I've only ever been on one hiking trail and it was with a stroller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    We carry one of these when we are out in the wild (jetskiing, hiking, kayaking) and my husband takes one with him (at my insistence after MH370) when he flies.

    https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-adv...r-beacons.html

    We paid several hundred dollars for our about 6 years ago but I think they are substantially cheaper nowadays. You have to register them with the government so they know who they are looking for if the beacon goes off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Queenatoo View Post
    Do they have any devices that hikers can use to call for help in terrain that may not get cellphone signal? I'm glad to finally know what happened.

    I won't judge this family. I've only ever been on one hiking trail and it was with a stroller.
    Take a look at the link RBW posted. Very useful-looking devices.

    I'm not really judging them for not realizing their devices might be useful, it's understandable that people who don't stray too far from civilization might not understand how remote some places are. I have a friend in Wyoming who travels a lot, has a cell phone for times when he's "in town" but if he wants to check his messages or send a text he needs to drive about 20 miles (or as he says to the end of his driveway) to get a signal. Then there's stuff like total dead zones for certain carriers. Sprint for instance has no signal anywhere around here. So, yeah.
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