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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Im not buying the lightning strike angle...unless the dog was on a leash and they were all holding onto a tree or something.
    At this point, it's as good a theory as any. ALL of the theories come down to them finding nothing in the autopsy. So I've come to the conclusion that the autopsy wasn't done by people that are thorough enough/didn't take the time to be intricate with it.

    We needed Baden or Dr. G on this one and we probably got overworked, State appointed people that just did the bare minimum because they're overworked and not paid enough.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Im not buying the lightning strike angle...unless the dog was on a leash and they were all holding onto a tree or something.
    They wouldn't need to be in contact. Being close is close enough. I don't know that I buy lightning either, but there have been a number of cases where groups of people have been struck at the same time. I do think it's odd that none of them show signs of burn injuries if that's what happened. I also have trouble with any of the poisoning theories for the reasons discussed above.

    I imagine coroners have their hands full with all the covid deaths, but yeah. We need some answers here!

    A lightning strike killed at least 16 people and injured many more in Jaipur in northern India on Sunday.

    The victims were taking selfies in the rain on top of a watch tower at the city's 12th Century Amer Fort, a popular tourist attraction.

    Dozens have also died in lightning strikes in Uttar Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh states.

    Lightning strikes kill some 2,000 Indians on average every year, according to official data.

    A senior police officer told the media that most of the people among the dead at the fort's tower were young.

    Twenty-seven people were on the tower and the wall of the fort when the incident happened and some reportedly jumped to the ground.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-57801398
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    Yes, everything I've considered would leave an indicator of some type. I'll agree with possible poor examination

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    Some general toxic algae info
    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/artic...e-16461960.php

    And yet, there are no reported human deaths from toxic algae. This is largely due to the fact that adults do not often swallow large amounts of polluted water. Anatoxin also breaks down fairly quickly and easily; it doesn?t stay in tissues very long, according to Weiss. For that reason, he says, he?ll be surprised if anatoxins show up in the toxicology reports for Gerrish and Chung.
    Aside from drinking the water, SFGATE asked Weiss, are there other ways the family could have been exposed to a lethal dose of anatoxin?

    The short answer is yes. The compound resides within cyanobacterial cells and is released when those cells rupture. Stomach acid causes this to happen, which is why ingestion is so dangerous. But then, the death of the cells can also leak anatoxin into the water. The compound is then capable of aerosolizing, Weiss says.

    ?So if you?re near splashing water, like rapids or something like that, and you?re getting spray on you, or there?s mist in the air, that can convey it,? he says. ?They probably weren't foolish enough to drink the water ... but did the dog go into the water and come back? Did they pet the dog? The parents are probably holding the child ? and the dermal tolerance is not that high. Once you get it on your body it's likely to make its way into your body, and they were sweating a lot that day, I?m sure.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Sorry. I'm not buying ALL of them dying from this without any indication. If they did, then that's some badass algae.

    We also have to consider, it's not like they were the ONLY ONES that hiked that area that day. I'm sure there were plenty and with dogs. How were they the only ones affected? I wish we had an actual view of the area and how heavily it's normally traveled. I would think that if they put up warning signs for it that it's a used trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Yeah, that's a very good point. If it was algae or some other toxin it should've impacted someone besides them, or even birds/aquatic species etc

    I'm at a complete loss with this one

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    It's a toughie. I hope it gets solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Yeah, that's a very good point. If it was algae or some other toxin it should've impacted someone besides them, or even birds/aquatic species etc

    I'm at a complete loss with this one
    I didn't even think about birds and other wildlife. Although, their instincts would probably keep them away from it. Maybe? I don't know. This whole case is crazy.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Yeah, that's a very good point. If it was algae or some other toxin it should've impacted someone besides them, or even birds/aquatic species etc

    I'm at a complete loss with this one
    We have a lake house and the lake its on had toxic algae, a ton of fish died, and the ducks and other birds had weird goiters. The wildlife was definately affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    We have a lake house and the lake its on had toxic algae, a ton of fish died, and the ducks and other birds had weird goiters. The wildlife was definately affected.
    Yeah, that's what happens here too when we have bad algae outbreaks in the rivers etc during drought years. It's really horrific

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    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...stery-80334727

    Authorities say they are still investigating the mysterious deaths of a Northern California family and their dog who were found in a remote hiking area, but have so far determined their deaths were not caused by a gun or any other weapon, a lightning strike, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, cyanide exposure, illegal drugs, alcohol or suicide.
    The Mariposa County Sheriff's Office said Thursday that officials are working with toxicologists, environmental specialists, the FBI and other experts, but “the cause of death remains undetermined."

    “ALL other potential causes of death remain,” the sheriff’s office said, without elaborating.

    While many toxicology reports have been completed, authorities are still waiting for a “few key results,” but there is no timeline for those, the department said.

    One early theory that has not been ruled out is whether high levels of toxic algae detected played a role.

    Investigators have received results from water samples in the area but are still waiting for other test results to help determine if the levels were high enough to cause the deaths, said Kristie Mitchell, a spokeswoman for the sheriff’s office.

    Authorities have also sent the couple’s phones and computers to the FBI, she said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I knew it wasnt a lightning strike! Now it was either toxic algae or we will never know. Would it kill them all at the exact same time? This one still baffles me.

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    Toxic algae or aliens

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    Honestly, it's getting harder and harder for me to believe that they died from algae yet every other living thing survived it. Someone brought up birds and fish and it made me think if deer and coyotes and *insert a plethora of wildlife here* were around and NONE of them keeled over. Yet this ONE SINGLE family of four just DIED. Out of nowhere. Seemingly quickly.

    Did they eat tainted pickles? I mean, doesn't make sense to feed them to the baby or dog, but did they bother to test any kind of food that they might have brought in with them? It's fucking bizarre. I'm not married to the Algae excuse because I feel like there would be a slew of other people/animals dropping dead if that were the case.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    I know they had water on them, but maybe it really was just heat exhaustion? Maybe they were trying to save the water for the baby & sat down hoping other hikers would find them in time & get them help? Then by the time they realised how much trouble they were in, it was too late?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    I know they had water on them, but maybe it really was just heat exhaustion? Maybe they were trying to save the water for the baby & sat down hoping other hikers would find them in time & get them help? Then by the time they realised how much trouble they were in, it was too late?
    But they ruled out all of those other possible causes of death. You'd think that if it were heat exhaustion that they'd be able to pin point that. I would think it would be one of the first things the ME would look for.

    I'm starting to be on board with Mike here. Aliens.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!


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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!
    Yay! Finally.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!
    YES!!!! This one bugs me so much. By the sounds of it, it was the algae. It begs the question of how it happened though. We'll never know that part, but at least we'll know what did it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Miller22 View Post
    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!
    If they were still waiting for results about the algae, was that what killed them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    If they were still waiting for results about the algae, was that what killed them?
    That would be my guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by marakisses View Post
    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    Me, too, though I don't quite "get" it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Me, too, though I don't quite "get" it.
    Same. Even if it was the algae, did they all swig it? Even the baby? Why weren't there tons of dead animals all over the place?

    I have questions.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    Exactly!
    How did they all die around the same time? Where were the irritated lungs, nose, skin?
    No signs at all? Where were the dead wildlife?

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