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Thread: Family Of Three + Their Dog Found Deceased In Mysterious Circumstances On Hiking Trail Near Devil's Gulch. Hazmat Scene Declared

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    It's a toughie. I hope it gets solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Yeah, that's a very good point. If it was algae or some other toxin it should've impacted someone besides them, or even birds/aquatic species etc

    I'm at a complete loss with this one
    I didn't even think about birds and other wildlife. Although, their instincts would probably keep them away from it. Maybe? I don't know. This whole case is crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Yeah, that's a very good point. If it was algae or some other toxin it should've impacted someone besides them, or even birds/aquatic species etc

    I'm at a complete loss with this one
    We have a lake house and the lake its on had toxic algae, a ton of fish died, and the ducks and other birds had weird goiters. The wildlife was definately affected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    We have a lake house and the lake its on had toxic algae, a ton of fish died, and the ducks and other birds had weird goiters. The wildlife was definately affected.
    Yeah, that's what happens here too when we have bad algae outbreaks in the rivers etc during drought years. It's really horrific

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    I knew it wasnt a lightning strike! Now it was either toxic algae or we will never know. Would it kill them all at the exact same time? This one still baffles me.

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    Toxic algae or aliens

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    Honestly, it's getting harder and harder for me to believe that they died from algae yet every other living thing survived it. Someone brought up birds and fish and it made me think if deer and coyotes and *insert a plethora of wildlife here* were around and NONE of them keeled over. Yet this ONE SINGLE family of four just DIED. Out of nowhere. Seemingly quickly.

    Did they eat tainted pickles? I mean, doesn't make sense to feed them to the baby or dog, but did they bother to test any kind of food that they might have brought in with them? It's fucking bizarre. I'm not married to the Algae excuse because I feel like there would be a slew of other people/animals dropping dead if that were the case.
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    I know they had water on them, but maybe it really was just heat exhaustion? Maybe they were trying to save the water for the baby & sat down hoping other hikers would find them in time & get them help? Then by the time they realised how much trouble they were in, it was too late?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    I know they had water on them, but maybe it really was just heat exhaustion? Maybe they were trying to save the water for the baby & sat down hoping other hikers would find them in time & get them help? Then by the time they realised how much trouble they were in, it was too late?
    But they ruled out all of those other possible causes of death. You'd think that if it were heat exhaustion that they'd be able to pin point that. I would think it would be one of the first things the ME would look for.

    I'm starting to be on board with Mike here. Aliens.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!


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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!
    Yay! Finally.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!
    YES!!!! This one bugs me so much. By the sounds of it, it was the algae. It begs the question of how it happened though. We'll never know that part, but at least we'll know what did it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainjillian View Post
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sheriff-a...040300851.html

    Looks like we will get an answer soon!
    If they were still waiting for results about the algae, was that what killed them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    If they were still waiting for results about the algae, was that what killed them?
    That would be my guess.


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??
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    Me, too, though I don't quite "get" it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Me, too, though I don't quite "get" it.
    Same. Even if it was the algae, did they all swig it? Even the baby? Why weren't there tons of dead animals all over the place?

    I have questions.
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    Exactly!
    How did they all die around the same time? Where were the irritated lungs, nose, skin?
    No signs at all? Where were the dead wildlife?

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    Uggh. That sux & unfortunately it's something we're going to see a lot more often as temps continue to rise
    - & it'll be in homes, suburbs & cities, not just people who go on hot weather hikes

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    Heat and dehydration are the very first things looked at in hiker deaths. How did they immediately go to carbon monoxide, algae, lightning....but pass over that? I just assumed they had somehow been able to rule that out since they jumped to these other theories right away.

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    I said it was hot but got shut down. Still seems odd and I don't understand why you'd hike on such a hot day and take your baby, too

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    Or is it like, "We can't figure it out so we'll just say heat-related"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Or is it like, "We can't figure it out so we'll just say heat-related"?
    That's kind of my guess. We eliminated everything we could imagine, so heat it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pidge View Post
    Or is it like, "We can't figure it out so we'll just say heat-related"?
    Yeah, I'm almost 100% positive that this is the case. The family wanted answers, the public wanted answers WE WANTED ANSWERS and so they gave the simplest answer they could give to close the case and make everyone happy.

    Heat Stroke was the first thing we discussed and we all came to the conclusion that it was strange that even though the baby and the dog could have succumbed later on, that it was strange to have both adults keel over at the same time. The theory that she went for help when he showed signs was brought up, but this article says that she was found further UP the hill. If she were going for help, wouldn't she be heading down off of whatever they were hiking to? The dog could be super loyal and worried about the baby, but wouldn't he seek out water as an instinct? The article also says that they HAD water with them and that it was tested and fine along with the formula for the baby. I'm side eyeing their conclusion.
    It just strikes me as the easy way out. Also this.....

    "This is the first hyperthermia cause of death that I've witnessed here in 20 years."


    This still doesn't make sense to me with how they were found, with what they were found with and with nobody else in the area experiencing the same fate. It wasn't really THAT HOT that weekend. And like RBW mentioned, they didn't see any of this earlier? It feels like they explored every COD they could and just landed on the easiest one to claim without having to be questioned.
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    Okay, so I looked up the weather and it was indeed hot, but still. I would think they would have known this was the cause and it doesn't explain the rest with her being ahead and them with plenty of water etc. I don't know. Maybe it was just that simple. If so, I don't understand why they didn't stop with the first signs of trouble with themselves. Especially with a baby.

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