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    Woman and her 1 year old grandbaby shot and killed by Timothy J. Wall (55), who then committed suicide, at Publix Supermarket in Royal Palm Beach, FL

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...orida-n1270337

    3 dead, including suspect, in shooting at Publix supermarket in Florida


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/us/ro...ing/index.html

    Two people were shot and killed inside a Publix in Royal Palm Beach, Florida, according to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's office. The shooter is also deceased, PBSO said.

    In a tweet Thursday, the sheriff's office said deputies arrived at the scene to find three people dead from gunshot wounds, including a man, a woman and a child. Police did not say which one was believed responsible for the shooting.

    "This was NOT an active shooter situation," the sheriff's office said.

    Detectives from the agency's violent crimes division are on the scene investigating, the office said in a statement. "Detectives are in the beginning stages of determining what led up to the shooting."
    How is a shooter in a supermarket NOT an active shooter situation???

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...orida-n1270337

    3 dead, including suspect, in shooting at Publix supermarket in Florida


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/us/ro...ing/index.html



    How is a shooter in a supermarket NOT an active shooter situation???
    I guess because the shooter is dead, but it was active before the shooting ended.

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    Sounds domestic to me. One killed the child, the spouse (or ex) and then themselves. I wonder why it was done in a supermarket though?


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    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...orida-n1270337

    3 dead, including suspect, in shooting at Publix supermarket in Florida


    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/us/ro...ing/index.html



    How is a shooter in a supermarket NOT an active shooter situation???
    I thought the same. I think because this sounds to be targeted and domestic? Or like Bewitching mentioned, because the shooter is dead so no longer "active".
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    The little kid shot and killed was only 2

    "The love for all living creatures is the most noble attribute of man" -Charles Darwin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    The little kid shot and killed was only 2
    YAYYYYYY GUNS!

    I'm just waiting for people to realize the depravity of the NRA and the goverment officials that sing their praises.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
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    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/us/ro...ing/index.html

    A gunman fatally shot a 1-year-old boy and his grandmother at a Florida grocery store

    A grandmother and her 1-year-old grandson were shot and killed Thursday at a Publix grocery store in Royal Palm Beach, Florida, according to the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office.

    The shooter is also dead. The motive in the shooting is also not known, and the sheriff's office said there is no known relationship between the gunman and the victims.

    The victims' families have invoked Marsy's law, so they will not be identified, the sheriff's office said.

    The gunman's name will be released once his next of kin is identified, the sheriff's office said.

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    Welp I was way off. No known relationship?? Odd.


    Quote Originally Posted by marakisses View Post
    yes i said i will leave it under you storage he said cuddle with me i said shut up it over??? what am i doing wrong??

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    This article has the murderer's name.

    A grandmother and her 1-year-old grandson were killed in a shooting Thursday inside a Publix store at The Crossroads shopping center in Royal Palm Beach, Florida, according to reporter Ian Margol.

    The boy’s father visited the store to identify his son’s body, Margol reported. Police confirmed there was “no known relationship” between the suspect and the two victims, according to WPBF reporter Ari Hait.

    The suspect has been identified as Timothy J. Wall, 55, of Royal Palm Beach, according to reporter Jorge Gonzalez, citing the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.

    The agency said late Thursday it would not identify either the woman or the toddler, who would have turned 2 years old this month, The Palm Beach Post reported. It said their family had invoked its rights under a 2018 amendment to the Florida state constitution, modeled on California’s Marsy’s Law, that allows crime victims and their families to withhold their names from public reports.

    Wall died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Margol reported, citing the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.
    https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-em...ONGVENHVCI33U/

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    Quote Originally Posted by raisedbywolves View Post
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/us/ro...ing/index.html

    A gunman fatally shot a 1-year-old boy and his grandmother at a Florida grocery store
    Freaking weird. I'm guessing there was a relationship of some sort between grandma and the shooter we just don't know about it yet.

    But have I ever mentioned how much I hate Marsy's Law? I know it was well intentioned, but in the year since it's passed there have been several cases here where I think it's bad. We had a cop use it to keep his name from being released after he shot someone, cause the victim punched him or some such thing. A guy that ran over a couple of motorcyclists claimed they were harassing him... and maybe so, but still!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Freaking weird. I'm guessing there was a relationship of some sort between grandma and the shooter we just don't know about it yet.

    But have I ever mentioned how much I hate Marsy's Law? I know it was well intentioned, but in the year since it's passed there have been several cases here where I think it's bad. We had a cop use it to keep his name from being released after he shot someone, cause the victim punched him or some such thing. A guy that ran over a couple of motorcyclists claimed they were harassing him... and maybe so, but still!!!
    I am right there with you, Puzz. It also challenges my searching capabilities when trying to find who is/was who. Selfish, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    Freaking weird. I'm guessing there was a relationship of some sort between grandma and the shooter we just don't know about it yet.

    But have I ever mentioned how much I hate Marsy's Law? I know it was well intentioned, but in the year since it's passed there have been several cases here where I think it's bad. We had a cop use it to keep his name from being released after he shot someone, cause the victim punched him or some such thing. A guy that ran over a couple of motorcyclists claimed they were harassing him... and maybe so, but still!!!
    I agree. It's too loosely defined to the point where it can protect offenders.
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    I thought the exact same thing. Poor Brennen Tammons.
    Oh well, back to gum.
    ....or exchanging Puke's wang for spicy nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by animosity View Post
    I know, right? What the fuck, puke? Willing to take in Boston, an Irish dude and like, 17 dogs but not Ron? poor Ron.

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    On my cell.
    I've been reading various articles and it looks like the guy had schizophrenia. He posted on his Facebook that he wanted to kill children and others. I wished the cops would throw everyone in jail that didn't report this psycho before it was too late.
    https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/wh...-timothy-wall/

    I found a Gofundme. I'm not sure if it's the one for grandma and grandson.
    https://gofund.me/464c68fa
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    "he had Skittles so he could have made drugs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by curiouscat View Post
    On my cell.
    I've been reading various articles and it looks like the guy had schizophrenia. He posted on his Facebook that he wanted to kill children and others. I wished the cops would throw everyone in jail that didn't report this psycho before it was too late.
    https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/wh...-timothy-wall/

    I found a Gofundme. I'm not sure if it's the one for grandma and grandson.
    https://gofund.me/464c68fa

    So there's your connection. Psycho used to have a business in this shopping center and the chamber of commerce is fundraising for "one of our own"

    I'm guessing they at least crossed paths. Maybe he blamed grandma for supporting his x in the divorce... maybe something else, but I don't think this was the totally random thing they want to sell. But then again, maybe he's just crazy. The heat will do that...

    https://www.clickorlando.com/news/fl...ed-bankruptcy/
    The gunman who stalked and then fatally shot a grandmother and her 1-year-old grandson inside a Florida supermarket had been threatening to kill people, including children, on his Facebook page but no one reported him, a Florida sheriff said Friday.

    Timothy J. Wall, 55, had been making the threats for some time before he walked into a Publix in Royal Palm Beach on Thursday, stalked his victims in the produce aisle before first shooting the child and then the woman before killing himself, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and his detectives said. Detectives have found no connection between Wall and the woman.

    ?He has said, ?I want to kill people and children.' He's got friends. Obviously, they saw that. His ex-wife said that he has been acting strange. He thinks he is being followed. He's paranoid. Do you think a damn soul told us about that? No,? Bradshaw said at a press conference. ?If it sounds like I'm angry, I am.?

    Under Florida's so-called Red Flag Law, a law enforcement agency can seek an order from a judge to seize the firearms of anyone shown to be a danger to themselves or others and hold them for a year. That can be extended if an agency shows the person is still a danger.

    It was enacted in 2018 by the Republican-led Legislature shortly after a former student with a history of mental and emotional problems killed 17 students and staff at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, less than an hour's drive from Thursday's shooting.

    Facebook also allows users to report troubling posts and will forward them to law enforcement.

    ?That's how this could have been prevented. If somebody would have let us know who he is, we would have contacted him, seen if he has got a gun, gotten him into mental health and you wouldn't have two people dead,? Bradshaw said. ?This didn't have to happen.?

    The ex-wife's family told the Palm Beach Post she did try to get Wall help, but no one listened.

    ?He had mental issues. He wasn?t taking care of himself,? said Maia Knight, Wall's former sister-in-law. ?My sister was going to the courthouse, going to police, telling everyone he needs help. My sister was trying to help him but didn?t know how.?

    The Associated Press isn't naming the ex-wife to protect her privacy. She did not return a call Friday seeking comment.

    Wall's family released a statement to The Associated Press. An attorney for the family said the relatives weren't interested in doing interviews, and they were hoping reporters would stop trying to contract Wall's elderly mother.

    ?We are heartbroken at the loss of a child, and a grandmother, and of Timothy?s death,? the statement said. ?We want to express our deepest condolences to the family of the young victim and his grandmother. During this difficult time, we ask that our family be given the time and respect to grieve and process this horrible tragedy. We hope that the same respect will be given to the victims and their family members.?

    Maj. Talal Masri, the lead detective, said the 69-year-old woman pushed her grandson into the store shortly after 11 a.m. Thursday, using a cart shaped like a race car so toddlers can play while the adult shops. Authorities have not released the victims? names, citing a state law that allows survivors to block their release.

    About 20 minutes later, Wall arrived at the store on a red scooter. He and his ex-wife had previously owned a dry cleaner in the shopping center, state records show, but it is unknown when it closed. Video shows he had been inside both the Publix and a nearby drugstore earlier in the morning and had approached people but then turned away, Masri said.

    This time, Wall entered the Publix using a golf putter as a walking stick. He walked around for a few minutes before entering the produce section, where the woman was shopping with her grandson still in the cart.

    He followed them for about three minutes before he pulled a handgun and shot the child, Masri said. The woman jumped on him and Wall's gun briefly jammed. She fell to the floor and he shot her and then himself. All died at the scene.

    The shooting sent dozens of employees and customers fleeing the store, but no other injuries were reported.

    Wall had been in financial and personal disarray for years before the shooting.

    Earlier this year, Wall had declared bankruptcy. In his filing, he listed $6,000 in assets, including $9 in checking, $18 in savings, $4,100 in a stock trading account, $740 in bitcoin and a $300 gun. He said he earned $24,000 last year as a laborer working through a temp agency and his mode of transportation was the $600 scooter he rode to the killings.

    Meanwhile, he had accumulated more than $215,000 in debts, most of it owed on the home his ex-wife now owns, the bankruptcy file shows. She divorced him in 2018 and he had signed over their house to her in 2019, Palm Beach County court records show.

    No previous criminal record for Wall could be found. Wall's bankruptcy lawyer, Ryan Loyacano, did not return a call and an email seeking comment.

    Publix is Florida?s largest grocery chain and has more than 1,200 stores in the Southern United States. The company said in a Thursday statement that it was cooperating with law enforcement. The sheriff?s office said the supermarket would be closed until Saturday.

    Royal Palm Beach is a middle-class suburb of 40,000 residents, about 15 miles (24 kilometers) inland from Palm Beach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puzzld View Post
    The heat will do that...
    I totally disagree. Heat is wonderful ... especially when you live in a place where it can snow in May! I do agree with you about doubting this was random. Since the chamber is doing the gfm, I wonder if grandma or her family had a business in the shopping center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by up2trouble View Post
    I totally disagree. Heat is wonderful ... especially when you live in a place where it can snow in May! I do agree with you about doubting this was random. Since the chamber is doing the gfm, I wonder if grandma or her family had a business in the shopping center.
    Hah. We've had snow every month of the year, except August and then we get hail... I still hate heat and humidity worse. But that's my thought. Grandma or her family had a business in the shopping center or very nearby, or she's the real estate agent who sold the house or the banker that turned down the mortgage... or she just looked a heck of a lot like the ex. Maybe I need to believe that cause otherwise the random shooter gunning down the kid and the old lady is just too scary.
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    So it looks like the family has decided not to have the victims named, so I am going to move with this current events.

    https://heavy.com/news/timothy-j-wall/

    Timothy J. Wall: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

    He just wanted to kill women and kids because he was mad at how his life had turned out. What a POS.

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